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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby MrBenn on Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:25 pm

I've been making some tweaks to the small map, but haven't had enough time to get something that I'm completely satisfied with yet.

The third lion (bottom one) is often smaller than the first two, especially as they're more commonly seen on a shield (which shrinks towards the bottom)... and he needs to be smaller so as to not overlap the land...

I'll be ironing out some of the discrepencies in abbreviations (ie the full-stop in Notts.) too...

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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/25 - Finalising graphics

Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:35 pm

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I know MrBenn is now busy, and that he has some things he wants to do with this map...but i think it deserves a bump to remind people that it's still here... :)
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:07 pm

Woohoo... at long last I've got around to publishing an update...

I can;t really remember all the things I've done - most of them are silly little tweaks that you probably wouldn't notice unless I pointed them out in any case :lol:

The most notable thing I've done is to change the font on the small map to make it easier to read (although it's a very similar typeface to the one I was using in any case) and less blurry.

The third lion will stay slightly smaller than the other two (only on the small map), because it looks stupid if I shrink the others down to be the same size - and if I make the smallest lion any bigger, then he (his name is Dexter) will overlap the land.

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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby the.killing.44 on Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:52 pm

*sticks tongue out at Benn*

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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:52 pm

MrBenn, nice update. :)
Is there any reason why the white lines in the background are clearer in the South-East than in most other continents.
In some , i can't see any.
To that extent, is the transparency consistant on all continents.
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:10 pm

cairnswk wrote:MrBenn, nice update. :)
Is there any reason why the white lines in the background are clearer in the South-East than in most other continents.
In some , i can't see any.
To that extent, is the transparency consistant on all continents.

It's partially a trick of the eye - especially as I've tweaked the transparency to try and make them more visible in the paler regions....

I'll have another look at evening them up a bit - but there'll probably always be some optical trick on them...


edit: Thanks for the stamp \:D/
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby Evil DIMwit on Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:18 pm

Took you long enough, man. Terrific work with all the green. 'Bout time the site got a new comedy map.*

*As a Jew I find the song "Jerusalem" inevitably hilarious.
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:31 pm

MrBenn wrote:
cairnswk wrote:MrBenn, nice update. :)
Is there any reason why the white lines in the background are clearer in the South-East than in most other continents.
In some , i can't see any.
To that extent, is the transparency consistant on all continents.

It's partially a trick of the eye - especially as I've tweaked the transparency to try and make them more visible in the paler regions....

I'll have another look at evening them up a bit - but there'll probably always be some optical trick on them...


OKies.
I think this can be stickied at least. =D>
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby saaimen on Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:34 pm

Biggest change I can see, apart from the font, is leaving out that very poem... A shame.

Dost thou fear the clutter? ;)
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby porkenbeans on Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:58 am

Just stumbled onto this map. I must say with all honesty, that, It is the prettiest map I have seen. I love the style, the color, the legibility and, ...well, just the pleasant feel of it. :D
Nice job there Mr. B. I would NOT change a thing.
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby MrBenn on Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:40 pm

I've been fiddling around with the "white lines" in the background (it's actually the strategic roads network), and brough some more consistency between the appearance of them.

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I should probably get around to doing the XML soon :lol:
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby MrBenn on Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:47 pm

Evil DIMwit wrote:*As a Jew I find the song "Jerusalem" inevitably hilarious.


Blake had some weird theology going on - that's for sure... Quite why some people choose to sing it at their wedding is anybody's guess :lol:
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby Evil DIMwit on Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:00 pm

MrBenn wrote:
Evil DIMwit wrote:*As a Jew I find the song "Jerusalem" inevitably hilarious.


Blake had some weird theology going on - that's for sure... Quite why some people choose to sing it at their wedding is anybody's guess :lol:


Apparently it's attached to some old prophecy in the bible about a new Jerusalem being built. This song isn't the kookiest interpretation of that prophecy either; I've actually read of a proposal that the New Jerusalem should be an MMO-style virtual city that people can log onto and walk around...

...Maybe we should petition Lack for the relevant XML updates?
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby MrBenn on Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:31 pm

Evil DIMwit wrote:
MrBenn wrote:
Evil DIMwit wrote:*As a Jew I find the song "Jerusalem" inevitably hilarious.


Blake had some weird theology going on - that's for sure... Quite why some people choose to sing it at their wedding is anybody's guess :lol:


Apparently it's attached to some old prophecy in the bible about a new Jerusalem being built. This song isn't the kookiest interpretation of that prophecy either; I've actually read of a proposal that the New Jerusalem should be an MMO-style virtual city that people can log onto and walk around...

...Maybe we should petition Lack for the relevant XML updates?

Somebody's probably making money from a Pseudo-Jerusalem in Second Life... :lol:
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Re: England Map [D, GP] p1/26 - Final Graphics? Big+Small

Postby 00iCon on Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:02 am

MrBenn wrote:
Evil DIMwit wrote:
MrBenn wrote:
Evil DIMwit wrote:*As a Jew I find the song "Jerusalem" inevitably hilarious.


Blake had some weird theology going on - that's for sure... Quite why some people choose to sing it at their wedding is anybody's guess :lol:


Apparently it's attached to some old prophecy in the bible about a new Jerusalem being built. This song isn't the kookiest interpretation of that prophecy either; I've actually read of a proposal that the New Jerusalem should be an MMO-style virtual city that people can log onto and walk around...

...Maybe we should petition Lack for the relevant XML updates?

Somebody's probably making money from a Pseudo-Jerusalem in Second Life... :lol:


:o A moderator posting about another game in CC! :shock: (don't look at my sig)

Excellent work, great improvement from the draft. Love the shades of green and this is the first map I've seen where the big map is actually different to the small one!
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby MrBenn on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:53 am

I've knocked up some XML: http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/1/9/2 ... and-02.xml

The only thing I have some reservations about is the naming of the abbreviated territories within the XML...

    Staffordshire (Staffs)
    Worcestershire (Worcs)
    Derbyshire (Derby)
    Nottinghamshire (Notts)
    Northamptonshire (Northants)
    Bedfordshire (Beds)
    Huntingdonshire (Hunts)
    Cambridgeshire (Cambs)
    Hertfordshire (Herts)
    Oxfordshire (Oxford)
    Buckinghamshire (Bucks)
    Gloucestershire (Gloucs)
Currently I've labelled them as shown in that list, but I'm not convinced by it... Some other options I'm considering are:

1. Gloucestershire - Gloucs
2. Gloucs / Gloucestershire
3. Gloucs - Gloucestershire
4. Gloucs (Gloucestershire)

Any thoughts/suggestions?
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby saaimen on Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:04 am

Well the abbreviations should definitely go first, that's is more comfortable (especially to non-English players).
Parentheses are good for me...
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby alex951 on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:50 pm

think the abbreviation will work
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby thenobodies80 on Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:49 am

Some people have criticized gimil's British Isles 2 because there isn't an easy pairing. (e.g. : oxon - oxfordshire), so I think that the best option is the fourth, abbreviation and parentheses.
First a player will read the territory name like it is written on the map, then he will be able to understand what is the real name (if the player wants ;) )

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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby the.killing.44 on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:28 am

Numero quatro ;) =D>
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby samuelc812 on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:53 am

Congrats MrBenn, great map, flawless imo =D>
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby Teflon Kris on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:21 am

Sorry to throw this in amongst other discussion topics:

Have you dropped the 'no territory bonus idea?

Looking forward to playing this one, it's been a long time and a lot of work for you MrBenn - I'm sure it will be worth it =D>
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby MrBenn on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:11 pm

Cheers DJ ;-)

I can't remember what happened with the "no territory bonus" idea in the end - I think I decided to leave it out while debating whether or not the gameplay would work.... I'm no longer sure whether it would be TOO confusing or not :lol:

Here's my immediate "to do" list for the XML:

1. Rename the abbreviated territories
2. Add in the starting neutral in Durham
3. Remember what was eventually decided about starting positions :lol:

Hopefully I'll find some time to make those amendments tonight :-s
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby MrBenn on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:38 pm

1. Check
2. Check
3. Check

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/1/9/2259283/England-03.xml

I'll double-check the XML when I'm not on the verge of falling asleep. :lol:
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Re: England Map [D, GP, GR]

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:23 pm

Wonderful map MrBenn =D>

Only 3 small things:

Coordinates to fix:

Small Version:
  • Notts.

Big Version:
  • W Sussex

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  • Berkshire on the small version, it's possible to move a bit the name to the right ? (Partially covered with 888)

Everything else is ok. :)

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