Conquer Club

whitestazn88 wrote:the second draft is considerably better. this was my first time going through the thread, and i was going to suggest that it was hard to tell which ship belonged to whom, but now its much clearer.

i currently don't understand attack routes, and theres no bonus structure in place, but i'm sure you'll get that done soon

Incandenza wrote:Your legend list is missing B26.

Yes, definitely the top-down view. I can't imagine doing it any other way.

Also, am I supposed to be able to tell the differences between ship types (frigate, etc.) from the current draft? 'Cause maybe my eyes have gone south, but I can't. Or maybe I'm not looking for the right thing, tho I do detect a few of those flagship backstay banners.

cairnswk wrote:Subject: BATTLE OF TRAFALGAR - V3(p2) New Stuff

Incandenza wrote:btw, why isn't this in the drafting room? cough-MrB-cough

cough-cough??!!

MrBenn wrote:

cairnswk wrote:Subject: BATTLE OF TRAFALGAR - V3(p2) New Stuff

Incandenza wrote:btw, why isn't this in the drafting room? cough-MrB-cough

cough-cough??!!

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I hope that cough isn't contagious... I don't want you spreading your germs in here!

Incandenza wrote:Given that it's winter here (or as wintery as it gets in southern california), I highly doubt I managed to infect cairns...

So, I imagine that the various attack/bombard lines will be on the actual map eventually? You might want to try and make a bit more room, otherwise things could get a bit cluttered.

On the upside, it's quite a bit easier to discern between flagships, ships of the line, and frigates now.

cairnswk wrote:....
i think this might end up being something like Pearl Harbor with those attack lines...

cairnswk wrote:i'm thinking that the map is going to look much better without attack lines....

but to notate....perhaps something like:
"any ship may attack/board any neighbouring/surrounding vessel"

that would at least alleviate the lines

Incandenza wrote:It sure as shit looks better without attack lines, but I don't see how you're going to be able to do the map properly without them. You have pretty critical-looking attack routes with the lines that would be impossible with the "attacks neighboring ships" textual explanation. Plus "neighboring" can be interpreted quite broadly.

MrBenn wrote:

cairnswk wrote:i'm thinking that the map is going to look much better without attack lines....

but to notate....perhaps something like:
"any ship may attack/board any neighbouring/surrounding vessel"

that would at least alleviate the lines

And it would be as confusing as hell...
Hell, it's confusing with the lines too!

whitestazn88 wrote:

Incandenza wrote:It sure as shit looks better without attack lines, but I don't see how you're going to be able to do the map properly without them. You have pretty critical-looking attack routes with the lines that would be impossible with the "attacks neighboring ships" textual explanation. Plus "neighboring" can be interpreted quite broadly.

i agree with inc on this almost all the way. the attack lines should be gone, and although the attack-routes are currently complicated, you could simplify the attack capabilities of the ships and just limit it to a radius of 1 or 2 ships (or something). the last thing i'd say is that we could denote conquering with a double cannon and bombarding with a single cannon? but that again complicates the attack-ability of some ships as well as attack lines....

Incandenza wrote:...

I think you misunderstood what I said... while the map would certainly look better without attack lines, it'll be almost impossible to make the map coherent without them.

The Neon Peon wrote:Looks a lot nicer now, and the concept is really good for a map.

A few questions, though...
How can you bombard and board from each other?
Why is there need for two lines to connect some ships?
Why is the Blue commander's name different from the other two commanders?
Where are the names of some of the ships? (the one between revenge, polyphem, and defiance; southern part of the map)
Nice job on the bombarding and attack routes, but who does the ship above bombard? I think a few of the bombardments need to be cleared up.
Where are the Frigates on the map? You still have them in the legend

Overall, excellent graphics, and excellent map.

The Neon Peon wrote:How can you bombard and board from each other?

yeti_c wrote:

The Neon Peon wrote:How can you bombard and board from each other?

You can't - although it is possible to state this in the XML - it will be impossible to determine which attack is which in the drop down.

C.

Incandenza wrote:Ah, that's much better.