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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby samuelc812 on Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:23 pm

Is it just me or is this map too wide?? 841px :o
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby RjBeals on Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:30 pm

samuelc812 wrote:Is it just me or is this map too wide?? 841px :o


LOL - damn that 1 pixel - this map is ruined !!

. LARGE MAP: WIDTH up to 840 px ; HEIGHT 800 px.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby samuelc812 on Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:40 pm

:lol:
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby pikkio on Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:11 pm

ok guys, i will post a version with no glows and same territories colors each continent. ;)

the problem is that if the islands have the same colour, it's quite impossible to understand which are in a territory and which in the adjacent.. for this reason i thought to use a different method to signal which territories are in the same country bonus. but we will see how it's better. ;)

p.s. oh damn!! that f***in' pixel!! :P :lol:
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby gho on Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:16 pm

The eastern part of indonesia is a part of oceania, see the wallace line:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line

Thus i think you should add another continent, indonesia, with the western part of papua new guinea (known as irian jaya), Celebes, Flores (home to the amazing prehistoric midget men), Timor and all the other islands. You wouldnt need to widen your map because all the territories you would be adding would be above australia.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP UPDATED (26/11/08 Vers. 1.2)

Postby RjBeals on Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:55 am

I'm worried that with the small island dots spread all over the place, that this will be a very confusing map. There needs to be some way to draw the islands in together, so you can see what islands/territories below to what bonus regions. Looking at google earth, some of these islands are no bigger than parking lot, so to be true to scale, your dots are fine. But I think for this map, you need to toss out scale. My suggestion is to group the islands closer, maybe separate with lighter/darker coast water. Maybe adjust the glow? I would also really work on the ocean. The ocean color/texture should really be badass.

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Re: OCEANIA MAP UPDATED (26/11/08 Vers. 1.2)

Postby pikkio on Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:40 am

i eliminated the glow effect and made the same colour for the territories in the same country.

i realized a dark version and a light version. in the dark i may improve the coast light sea effect, but this is an example.

please, tell me if you prefer the dark or the light map, cause then i can go on with one on those and make the other changes. ;) in my opinion the dark map it's looking better.. :roll:
also tell me if the no-glow maps are better or no. ;)

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Re: OCEANIA MAP UPDATED (26/11/08 Vers. 1.2)

Postby RjBeals on Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:15 am

The dark blue is easier on the eyes. and without the glow - i'm just looking at army circles and names. I can barely even notice the dots (islands) in the background.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP ( (26/11/08 Vers. 1.3)

Postby edbeard on Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:23 pm

I prefer the light version but I also preferred the glow. And, you can't really make the determination that the light or dark is better without seeing how the rest of the map looks so the glow will potentially matter in making that determination.

the red for Melanesia feels too strong (in both versions). no idea how a glow would look.

about the glow, I liked how the glow was a slightly different colour or a contrasting colour than the island colours. It was unique. the glow was just too big. make them smaller and possibly with less opacity.



in a gameplay sense, I had zero problems with the previous version.

I don't particularly like the addition of the new island to New Zealand because I liked you having a +2 region in there. It definitely is balanced but I'd prefer if there was a +2 and if there was a +4 or two in there as well. I'll look it over again later after you progress to the foundry or if changes are made but your current gameplay seems fine. Not to say I didn't miss anything.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP ( (26/11/08 Vers. 1.3)

Postby Incandenza on Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:28 pm

So, then, that's a no to lopping off pitcairn and adding more of indonesia?
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Re: OCEANIA MAP ( (26/11/08 Vers. 1.3)

Postby reggie_mac on Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:09 pm

Firstly, I like the idea of this map. It is something i would most defiantly play. now into the picking ... Chatham Islands are generally accessed from the South Island of NZ rather than the North Island, also the Tokelau is a territory of New Zealand, so should almost be part of that area bonus, or maybe including NZ as part of Polynesia then dropping Pitcarn Islands, which open it up for including more of indonesia??
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Re: OCEANIA MAP ( (26/11/08 Vers. 1.3)

Postby gho on Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:40 pm

Incandenza wrote:So, then, that's a no to lopping off pitcairn and adding more of indonesia?

I too want more indonesia, the part east of the wallace line, but you dont need to cut of pitcairn, all the parts of indonesia that are needed are visible as grey territories above of the northern territory and western australia.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP ( (26/11/08 Vers. 1.3)

Postby Jumentum on Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:07 pm

wow thats a really great map already!
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby Geger on Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:56 am

gho wrote:The eastern part of indonesia is a part of oceania, see the wallace line:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line

Thus i think you should add another continent, indonesia, with the western part of papua new guinea (known as irian jaya), Celebes, Flores (home to the amazing prehistoric midget men), Timor and all the other islands. You wouldnt need to widen your map because all the territories you would be adding would be above australia.


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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:54 am

Geger wrote:
gho wrote:The eastern part of indonesia is a part of oceania, see the wallace line:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line

Thus i think you should add another continent, indonesia, with the western part of papua new guinea (known as irian jaya), Celebes, Flores (home to the amazing prehistoric midget men), Timor and all the other islands. You wouldnt need to widen your map because all the territories you would be adding would be above australia.


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I know that wallace line signs the real end of asia continents and tha beginning of Oceania's one, but it seems to be a biological division so we're are discussing about.
Obviously if the community likes it, we can do this change, but since now i say that we can only admit this states:
    - Celebes
    - Flores
    - Timor
    - Malucas
    - Irian Java

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