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Postby sully800 on Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:24 pm

I really like the addition of the dead territories, and I agree with everyones notion that it needs to be a little lighter overall.

Also I agree with Marv that the continent colors should be even more differentiated. I know you are making them pale and similar to the colors on the original map, but I think they look too similar to each other right now.

Overall though it looks awesome.
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Postby Mr. K on Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:38 pm

DublinDoogey wrote:Looks awesome. I cross-checked it with the existing map, they have Kurdistan, you have Kurdiastan. I'm guessing the first is correct, but I'm not sure and thought I'd point it out.

Typo, thanks for the heads up.


I'll make it a touch lighter next time, as well as resolve the 4 corners.

The colors are the same colors as on the original, but i'll see what I can do.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:55 pm

I'd say a dark grey would suffice.
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Postby gavin_sidhu on Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:17 am

what are you making lighter, the dead countries or the map as a whole? the dead countries are good as they are.
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Postby KEYOGI on Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:03 am

I like the dead-territory idea and the seas, but I think the sea labels either need to go or made less obvious.

It'd be nice if the map was a bit brighter and used a wider variety of colours. It seems like you've got 3 colours for 6 continents.

I think the border lines are a bit too thick. Thick lines between continents works, but I feel they need to be thinner for the countries.

Can you maybe tone down the embossing look to the map? I like the variation of depth it gives, I feel it's a bit too much though.

Lastly, the countries in/around the Mediterranean are very crowded and I think it could be made a little easier to understand which label belongs to which country.

Overall though, I like the way the changes are heading. I think it needs some further tweaking, but that's just how I feel. My map making experience has taught me, no matter how you make it look, people are always going to complain. :)
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Postby Teya on Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:16 am

I like the idea of a revamp, but I think I like the original better than this. The territory border lines are too thick & I think the whole map is a little bit dark.
To me, the dead territory takes focus away from the actual map because it is such a dark colour. Also, maybe a bit distracting for me because there is no dead territory on the original.
Ive only just got into playing the middle east map and love it. Maybe I just need time to adjust to changes.
Another thing is I think the original is clearer. Easier to understand.
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Postby happysadfun on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:20 am

I think Israel and Palestinian Territories should be shorthened to just Israel.
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Postby juventino on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:22 am

and then erase palestinia altoghether? I think you need it there
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Postby Telvannia on Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:40 pm

why dont you make it to plain Palestinian


i think why it was called Israel and Palestinian Territories to begin with
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Postby Mr. K on Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:45 pm

Arguing about it is useless, I'm not going to change any place names from the original.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:27 pm

Read the rules outlined on page 2.
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Postby Mr. K on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:59 pm

Or you could read the topic post where I outlined what I would and wouldn't do.
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Postby Spiegelprime on Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:10 am

There was a huge debate when I first made the map about Israel-Palestine. First I called it Palestine as that is what the region is called, but people didn't like that. Then I called it Jerusalem after the name of the area under the Ottomans (The Independent Sanjak of Jerusalem) which also bugged people. Israel is too charged for me and Palestine for everone else so thus we stuck with both. And that's how it will stay :-)
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Postby Hoff on Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:56 pm

i agree that having both would be the best.
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Postby Lupo on Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:10 am

Is someone still working to improve Middle East map?

since it seems it will take a long time before the new map will be finished, I make a proposal:
could you quench the original map with only the 4 corner correction of Egypt, please?

I consider pyramide suggestion a really good idea, as well the one to mark the borders using river Nilo and linking in some way the territories that have to be connected and leting the other ones divided...
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Postby reverend_kyle on Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:10 am

I noticed this fell to the second page when doing my france map and I was like has it died :(?
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Postby Mr. K on Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:50 pm

Sorry, past 3 weeks have been the busiest 3 weeks in a long time. Tomorrow is my last exam though, so we'll see.
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Postby Hoff on Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:48 pm

i saw you posted and got excited for an update, but no.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:51 pm

Hoff wrote:i saw you posted and got excited for an update, but no.



Aww man.. me too, this is my most anticipated map.
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Postby qeee1 on Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:37 pm

I want to see a lighter version. Other than that, good job. Can't wait to play, might get in a few rounds on the old middle east map after christmas, to get ready.
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Postby Pedronicus on Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:40 am

I liked the fact that you added the names to the surrounding seas.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:01 pm

Still working on this project, Mr. K? I'd like to see it in the near future.


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wrongs in middle east map

Postby serkancatal on Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:50 pm

there r some critical wrongs on the middle east map. so if u change i hope u can pay attention on those.
1- the place called armenia is van, a turkish city. armenia is a country and nothing to do with turkey
2- the place called caucasia is actually armenia. caucasia is a region including azerbeijan, armenia, georgia and so many others.
3- there is no place called kurdistan in the world. in the map place as ashown as kurdistan is actually musul-kerkuk. musul and kerkuk have their own people and it belongs to iraq. since iraq is divided to cities such as baghdad, than the place as shown as kurdistan has to be musul-kerkuk.
i hope u can pay attention on the things i told.
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Postby oaktown on Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:03 pm

i hope this project isn't dead - it's one of the few geographically accurate maps in progress that looks good and seems playable.

Palestine v. Israel v. both... I know the rules say no name changes, but if it's going to cause a fuss maybe this could just be called the "Holy Land" with the quotes intact.
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mistakes on middle east map

Postby serkancatal on Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:26 pm

as i told before on some topics there r some mistakes on middle east map and actually i would like from moderators to change it. i wonder people's ideas about that. mistakes r as follows:

1- the place called armenia is "van", a turkish city. armenia is a country and nothing to do with turquia. and armenia never have those lands the history so i dont understant y it is shown as so
2- the place called caucasia is actually armenia. caucasia is a region including azerbeijan, armenia, georgia and so many others.
3- there is no place called kurdistan in the world. in the map place as shown as kurdistan is actually musul-kerkuk. musul and kerkuk have their own people and it belongs to iraq. since iraq is divided to cities in that map such as baghdad, than the place as shown as kurdistan has to be musul-kerkuk.
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