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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue May 15, 2007 9:53 pm

Mind supplying me with the TEXT links to the large and small images, along with the XML, Keyogi?


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Postby Coleman on Tue May 15, 2007 11:05 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Mind supplying me with the TEXT links to the large and small images, along with the XML, Keyogi?


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Well.. I'll wait for him to do it...

However can't you see them if you try to quote his post? Or if you right click an image and select image location or look at the properties? Or do you enjoy making us suffer?

It's okay to admit it. Come on. :lol:
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue May 15, 2007 11:08 pm

I could do the properties..but then if I did that for him, I'd have to do it for everyone. I'd rather everyone do it for me. ;)


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Postby Coleman on Tue May 15, 2007 11:15 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I could do the properties..but then if I did that for him, I'd have to do it for everyone. I'd rather everyone do it for me. ;)

Not quite what I was hoping for, but it'll do. :lol:
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Postby KEYOGI on Wed May 16, 2007 3:53 pm

Large: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r118/KEYOGI/MER/MERLv212.jpg

Small: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r118/KEYOGI/MER/MERSv212.jpg

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
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   <title>Middle East Map</title>
   <smallwidth>600</smallwidth>
   <smallheight>450</smallheight>
   <largewidth>800</largewidth>
   <largeheight>600</largeheight>
   <filetype>jpg</filetype>

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         <component>Ankara</component>
         <component>Antakya</component>
         <component>Georgia</component>
         <component>Armenia</component>
         <component>Taurus</component>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Near East</name>
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      <components>
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         <component>Lebanon</component>
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         <component>Jordan</component>
         <component>Kurdistan</component>
         <component>Euphrates</component>
         <component>Baghdad</component>
      </components>
   </continent>
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         <component>East Nubia</component>
         <component>Darfur</component>
         <component>Upper Nile</component>
      </components>
   </continent>
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      <components>
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         <component>Turkmenistan</component>
         <component>Afghanistan</component>
         <component>Kabul</component>
         <component>Uzbekistan</component>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
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         <component>Tehran</component>
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         <component>Hormuz</component>
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         <component>Baluchistan</component>
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         <component>Empty Quarter</component>
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         <border>Euphrates</border>
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         <border>Euphrates</border>
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         <border>Euphrates</border>
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Postby wicked on Wed May 16, 2007 4:17 pm

wow. alot of indistinguishable brown. ick. Can we use some more variations of color so you can tell which continent bonuses go with which globs of brown????

And while I'm at it... the text is barely readable on the small map. Sure, the fancy font is pretty, but how about something a bit more readable. THIS is seriously in final forge? Are you kidding me? :shock:
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Postby poo-maker on Wed May 16, 2007 4:19 pm

wicked wrote:wow. alot of indistinguishable brown. ick. Can we use some more variations of color so you can tell which continent bonuses go with which globs of brown????


lol wicked, they're easily distinguishable.. :lol:
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Postby Gilligan on Wed May 16, 2007 4:22 pm

I'm actually liking the first map better. This map is wayyy to monochrome.
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Postby wicked on Wed May 16, 2007 4:23 pm

I don't think so. While the old map was certainly ugly and this one is pretty, at least that map was readable and continents were clearly delineated... not so here.
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Postby Gilligan on Wed May 16, 2007 4:24 pm

Everything is better in this one except the color scheme.
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Postby wicked on Wed May 16, 2007 4:27 pm

You can attack across the oceans in the NW corner now? Or am I reading it wrong? If so, that's a new thing.

No one wants to have to hit "larger map" just to be able to distinguish Ankara from Antakya or whatever.
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Postby Gilligan on Wed May 16, 2007 4:31 pm

wicked wrote:You can attack across the oceans in the NW corner now? Or am I reading it wrong? If so, that's a new thing.

No one wants to have to hit "larger map" just to be able to distinguish Ankara from Antakya or whatever.


You were able to do that in the old map too :?

The Ankara and Antakya is confusing, I agree.
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Postby wicked on Wed May 16, 2007 4:39 pm

you are correct.... the "brown" oceans threw me... I thought they were countries. Can we make the water look less like countries?

Also, it doesn't appear that Istanbul has a border drawn? I mean I know where it can attack, but it looks like an island out there.
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Postby Gilligan on Wed May 16, 2007 4:41 pm

wicked wrote:you are correct.... the "brown" oceans threw me... I thought they were countries. Can we make the water look less like countries?

Also, it doesn't appear that Istanbul has a border drawn? I mean I know where it can attack, but it looks like an island out there.


The sea looks like a country? :?

And you are correct. There is no border with Istanbul, but I think it is clear enough since it is "cornered" by Izmir.
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Postby DiM on Wed May 16, 2007 5:54 pm

come on guys, the colour scheme is briliant. it has a great feeling about it. kinda an old parchment map. :wink:
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Postby Coleman on Wed May 16, 2007 6:00 pm

I'm really surprised that wicked thinks this is difficult to read. First off I think we should all know what the middle east looks like and the general potions of all the countries anyway. But on top of that there are words faded into the backgrounds of every continent. And the water is definitely a different enough color that it shouldn't cause mistakes like wicked described. Is wicked really having these problems or is she trying to play the part of what she thinks people will have problems with?
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Postby wicked on Wed May 16, 2007 6:05 pm

yes, I saw the names on the backgrounds.. obviously a sign the browns are indistinguishable. ;-) but will they be visible on the small version with the numbers and number circles covering them? Is there a small version showing the number circles and numbers? I saw the one with numbers, but it didn't have the circles... are we getting away from that now? And I still think the text is hard to read on the small version.
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Postby wicked on Wed May 16, 2007 6:07 pm

perhaps I was looking at the wrong link? I just saw where someone had posted this for the small map and looked there: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r118 ... RSv212.jpg

If the size is that on page 37, then the text is more readable there.

If the page 37 maps are the final ones, then those look OK IF there's not going to be number circles, so ignore what I said. ;-) The links posted on the previous page threw me - apologies. I'm still not crazy about the text, but can live with it.

ONE suggestion now though.... change Israel & Palestine... to what it was, Israel & PTO. It's too long on the map and would be better abbreviated for the dropdown menus and game log text anyway.
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Postby Coleman on Wed May 16, 2007 6:16 pm

Oh that does explain a bit. Yeah page 1 being final forge would be bad.

I kinda fought for army circles a while back and was shot down. :oops:
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Postby wicked on Wed May 16, 2007 6:24 pm

no it wasn't on page 1, it was a couple pages back, which was the most recent page when I first read the thread. thanks for humoring me. :lol: after some of the recent maps, I thought the maps might need a women's touch. :wink:
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Postby Spiegelprime on Wed May 16, 2007 7:04 pm

As far as the Israel/Palestine thing goes, it is abbreviated on the drop-downs (and in the .xml) to Israel and PT. It just reads the long way on the map as per some rather lengthy debate when I first created it. :P
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Postby Gilligan on Wed May 16, 2007 7:07 pm

I just have a quick question. Why does this map have to go through the forges but why didn't World 2.1?
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Postby johloh on Wed May 16, 2007 7:59 pm

I just have a quick question. Why does this map have to go through the forges but why didn't World 2.1?
it wasnt so much of a total revamp as some bug fixes and a few name changes...keyogi's done a whole new graphics set so it needed more of a process.
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Postby wicked on Thu May 17, 2007 11:07 am

Spiegelprime wrote:As far as the Israel/Palestine thing goes, it is abbreviated on the drop-downs (and in the .xml) to Israel and PT. It just reads the long way on the map as per some rather lengthy debate when I first created it. :P


well now's the perfect time to change it!!! :wink:
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Postby lord_kraigory on Sat May 19, 2007 1:25 am

geeze, like, i hate to piss people off or anything, but i'm surprised at the way people (especially seasoned members) jump in and start re-questioning everything that has already been debated back and forth. Not that things shouldn't be requestioned, but everyone has already reached a consensus about the things wicked and gilligan brought up. I don't get it.
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