Flanders 1302V15[Beta] major changes! P19

[DubWarrior]

Hi,
2 questions:
- Do you like the new color of the rivers? I'm having a bit the impression they're looking to 'new'...not medieval enough?
- a topic question: what do i need to do, so this topic gets in the main foundry-forum - out of this 'new projects' forum - this one don't feels like a new project
But maybe I'm getting a bit impatient

grtz
Dub

[RedBaron0]

I know how you feel my friend..

Play with the colors, you are the map maker after all. I just thought the old river color was very similar to the main boundary color. Try that blue-green you used for the ocean, I like that color.

Couple little things to look at, you can almost see a connection between Damme and Poperinge. Slide that border of Ieper over a little bit to the river, unless you want a connection between those 2 territories. The border between Eeklo and Roesclare is smidgen short, just need to finish the line to the river. And consider increasing the bonus of Artesie OR Kortrijk. They just seem very difficult to hold, even if they only have 4 and 5 territories respectively.

Looking really good Dub!

[The Neon Peon]

To answer your questions:
- Make them the same color as the sea.
- To get the topic into the main foundry, you have to have a good map, which you already do, and have some discussion go on, to show the cartographers that people are interested in seeing this map be a part of the site.

Graphics comments:
- IEPER seems to be smaller, or less bolded than the other rebel stronghold names.
- Tone down territory borders they stand out far too much, make them a little transparent
- Move the rebel stronghold in KORTRIJK right, closer to the bridge so that it is not touching the top of the territory border
- Tidy up the rivers by GENT and BRUGGE
- Add one more dash next to Oostburg in its connection to Broekburg

The map looks wonderful. I love your style.

Gameplay:
- RIJKS Vlaanderen is worth 2 troops yet it is only 3 territories with only 2 of them to defend, it should be brought down to 1 troop
- Henegouwen and Oostervant together are 7 territories, 3 to defend, and are worth 5 troops. One of the two bonuses needs to be reduced
- Kortrijk needs to be worth 3 troops. Because of its central location, it is difficult to obtain and hold, so making it worth more makes it worthwhile to go get
- Consider extending Duinkerke east so that it borders a Broekburg and Sint Omaars, and Vinoxbergen does not borer Broekburg

That is all the comments I have for now. Will drop in sometime later. Keep up the good work.

[whitestazn88]

yo, i've been posting here for a bit. back again for the preliminary review. looks good. you've updated things to get people to like it more, and its been improved vastly, i say move it on, and good luck getting forged

[dolomite13]

I really like this map. The colors look really good next to each other. I agree wih everything Neon Peon said. I did also notice the dark border you have left side of the map is slightly right of the map edge and the right side one is slightly off the edge of the map. But thats just a nit pick.

Great Job

==D

[cairnswk]

Hello Dub Warrior...i'm here for a preliminary review please forgive if some things have already been discussed and edited.
This is a nice small map in some colour combinations that haven't been seen before... turning out well. I like the citrus colours you've applied, your border design is suitable and periodic, and in particular the curve you have around the title.
For an older person like me, i'd like to see the very small territory names slightly larger in font size.
The overall size on version 6 will still have to be reduced to 630px width, as it stands now at 668px.
"french" king in story needs a capital F.
Some rivers around Brugge are a bit pixely.
Perhaps the inset legend map can be reduced slightly in size also to give the sea line some real estate.
You've got a four-way border around Axel, Hulst, Lokeren, Beveren that will need amending. And the same at Doornik, Hergen etc...they simply need to be offset a little.
The territory borders will need tidying slightly, some lines are thicker than others, and one of then doesn't intersect properly....the border of Eeklo just north-west of Brugge.
But overall, coming along nicely.

[whitestazn88]

Hello Dub Warrior...i'm here for a preliminary review please forgive if some things have already been discussed and edited.
This is a nice small map in some colour combinations that haven't been seen before... turning out well. I like the citrus colours you've applied, your border design is suitable and periodic, and in particular the curve you have around the title.
For an older person like me, i'd like to see the very small territory names slightly larger in font size.
The overall size on version 6 will still have to be reduced to 630px width, as it stands now at 668px.
"french" king in story needs a capital F.
Some rivers around Brugge are a bit pixely.
Perhaps the inset legend map can be reduced slightly in size also to give the sea line some real estate.
You've got a four-way border around Axel, Hulst, Lokeren, Beveren that will need amending. And the same at Doornik, Hergen etc...they simply need to be offset a little.
The territory borders will need tidying slightly, some lines are thicker than others, and one of then doesn't intersect properly....the border of Eeklo just north-west of Brugge.
But overall, coming along nicely.

older person? i thought you were in uni?

[cairnswk]

...
older person? i thought you were in uni?

I am in uni. i worked for 34 years after high school and am now a "mature-age student" at James Cook Univeristy here in Cairns.
60 % of the uni's popluation are mature-aged students.
Oldies go to uni here in australia also whitestazn88.

Now back to topic...

[whitestazn88]

...
older person? i thought you were in uni?

I am in uni. i worked for 34 years after high school and am now a "mature-age student" at James Cook Univeristy here in Cairns.
60 % of the uni's popluation are mature-aged students.
Oldies go to uni here in australia also whitestazn88.

Now back to topic...

well i mean, oldies go to uni here too... but i always thought you were a youngie(?), i guess thats my fault for assuming most people participating in an online forum such as this one would be younger.

[DubWarrior]

Thanks for all the comment so far. i'm just passing by to let you know that I'm on a holliday the next 2 weeks,
so no updates coming up.
but don't worry, I'll return

[lostatlimbo]

overall, i think the map looks good. its simple and effective.

if the darkened blobs (islands) in the NE corner of the map aren't necessary, I think it would look better without them.

i think its a good idea to have the rivers darker - the color of the ocean might not stand out enough, but it might if you added some depth in the rivers.

[eigenvector]

Hi,

The rivers are great so long as their thickness stays constant. Where it varies (like south of Brugge) they look like a mess. So I'd suggest you go for uniform thickness and it will be splendid.

[lt_oddball]

I am late to join the commenting team.
But Flanders is next door, so I 'd like to give my input.
It's a nicely coloured map.

Change Title:
Flanders Uprising ! .
Seems more catchy a title

Put the "Golden Spurs battle" in the legend (as reference for interested players).
(..and lost it..in the Golden Spurs battle).



Was Antwerpen then still part of Brabant ?

Shouldn't Antwerp be more under/below the "impassable" river ?
Now you have to go from Antwerp to Brussels to Aalst thru Lokeren to get to Beveren...whereas Beveren is NEXT DOOR to Antwerp ?!?
If there is some sort of map necessity to install this detour feature, then please enlighten us..but I can't think of a good reason to move away from the historic and geographic realities here.
And if Antwerp was one of the major cities behind the revolt then they SHOULD have straight access to the Kroon Vlaanderen "continent".
And another thing; now Antwerp as a city with +1 auto deploy is in the corner of the map and being cuddly covered by oostburg and Brussel...that is too favourable for the player that is lucky enough to spawn in that region. So another reason to give direct access between Antwerp and Beveren (bridge).


Why is there this relatively huge sea link between Oostburg and Broekburg ?
The peasant army didnot have a naval fleet, nor did the french knights. Everything went overland.
Let's stick to the mobility of 1302 and remove unnecessary large sea(or flight :s) links.

"french" king in story needs a capital F.

I suppose then the "French" knights and "Flemish" peasants need a lower case "f" ..

cheers

[sinctheassasin]

I like the map, it's calm and easy on the eyes, yet bold enough to be noticable. The rivers look fine to me

[Industrial Helix]

I say lighten the rivers a tad and darken the sea some... they don't have to look identical, but narrowing the gap might help.