The Conquer 500

[Gilligan]

Can we get an ETA on updating the xml and unlocking this so people can start playing it again?

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There are still 15 active games, so when they all get finished then rds can upload the new files and tnb can open it back up. Right now there is no telling how long it will be.

If we are waiting for all games to finish, won't a round limit be imposed on those games?

[isaiah40]

Can we get an ETA on updating the xml and unlocking this so people can start playing it again?

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There are still 15 active games, so when they all get finished then rds can upload the new files and tnb can open it back up. Right now there is no telling how long it will be.

If we are waiting for all games to finish, won't a round limit be imposed on those games?

I agree on a round limit being imposed, so maybe rds can get it done? I know tnb would agree to it as well.

[dolomite13]

Can we get an ETA on updating the xml and unlocking this so people can start playing it again?

=D13=

There are still 15 active games, so when they all get finished then rds can upload the new files and tnb can open it back up. Right now there is no telling how long it will be.

If we are waiting for all games to finish, won't a round limit be imposed on those games?

I agree on a round limit being imposed, so maybe rds can get it done? I know tnb would agree to it as well.

So when the problem occurred all existing games were restarted with the new xml. So wouldn't it be true then that all of the current games are on the xml that added the territory? The new xml that is waiting for upload is that same xml with one connection fix. So do we really need to wait for them to end?

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[Gilligan]

Can we get an ETA on updating the xml and unlocking this so people can start playing it again?

=D13=

There are still 15 active games, so when they all get finished then rds can upload the new files and tnb can open it back up. Right now there is no telling how long it will be.

If we are waiting for all games to finish, won't a round limit be imposed on those games?

I agree on a round limit being imposed, so maybe rds can get it done? I know tnb would agree to it as well.

So when the problem occurred all existing games were restarted with the new xml. So wouldn't it be true then that all of the current games are on the xml that added the territory? The new xml that is waiting for upload is that same xml with one connection fix. So do we really need to wait for them to end?

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Hmm...this is true. Was there an XML update AFTER the final lap was introduced?

[dolomite13]

Yes... it fixes the connection for Track E3 to Final Lap and tweaks the Final Lap unit display slightly to the left to help center it... It is uploaded in the first post.

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[Gilligan]

Yes... it fixes the connection for Track E3 to Final Lap and tweaks the Final Lap unit display slightly to the left to help center it... It is uploaded in the first post.

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Then there should be no issue with opening the map up now. We change coordinates and borders all of the time with no issues.

[Donelladan]

So??? We are waiting for weeks now to play this awesoooooooooooooome map.
Please reopen

[dolomite13]

So??? We are waiting for weeks now to play this awesoooooooooooooome map.
Please reopen

I think they want to wait for all games to finish just in case it causes issues again. Although Gilligan has said he believes it will not cause the same issues as before as all games were reset with the new xml and the latest update is just a minor territory connection fix. I would really love to see a turn limit put on the remaining games if that is possible with the game engine.

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[Gilligan]

So??? We are waiting for weeks now to play this awesoooooooooooooome map.
Please reopen

I think they want to wait for all games to finish just in case it causes issues again. Although Gilligan has said he believes it will not cause the same issues as before as all games were reset with the new xml and the latest update is just a minor territory connection fix. I would really love to see a turn limit put on the remaining games if that is possible with the game engine.

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I sent a PM to blake and rds to impose round limits about an hour ago.

[iAmCaffeine]

I want to continue my lovely 1v1 win percentage on this!

[Donelladan]

I thought it has already been agreed that it doesnt matter that all games are finished or not since the extra territory has already been added.

Plus, some games are still waiting to be full and will be started soon... making it even longer. If you really want to wait all games are finished, then delete the waiting games on that map.

Also, it is possible to create game on the conquer 500 using the rematch option - I have been invited to one game on Conquer 500 like that recently.

[dolomite13]

I thought it has already been agreed that it doesnt matter that all games are finished or not since the extra territory has already been added.

Plus, some games are still waiting to be full and will be started soon... making it even longer. If you really want to wait all games are finished, then delete the waiting games on that map.

Also, it is possible to create game on the conquer 500 using the rematch option - I have been invited to one game on Conquer 500 like that recently.

I agree. The new xml should be uploaded and the map unlocked as the major changes were already rolled out. All we can do is wait for someone to see this discussion and agree.

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[thenobodies80]

We're waiting too (for teh cap)....if nothing happens i'll unlock the map...Maybe it will cause a mess but at least someone will listen to us in that case.

[Donelladan]

Yeah let's just open it again.
I am playing it already and didnt see any problem so let's go!

[iAmCaffeine]

WHYYYY ARE WE WAITING
WHYYYYYYYY ARE WE WAITING
OH WHYYYYYYYYYY AREEEE WEEEE WAIIIITIIIINNGGGG

[thenobodies80]

I'll explain shortly....be patient.

[dolomite13]

So the new territory "Final Lap" has been on the map for a while now and I was hoping we could get some feedback.

* Have you used it?
* Has an opponent used it against you?
* Did it help break a stalemate?
* If you have not used it... why?
* Do you feel the number is too big?

Any feedback about it is appreciated.

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p.s. I have not used it nor have I been in a game where it was used.

[Gilligan]

So the new territory "Final Lap" has been on the map for a while now and I was hoping we could get some feedback.

* Have you used it?
* Has an opponent used it against you?
* Did it help break a stalemate?
* If you have not used it... why?
* Do you feel the number is too big?

Any feedback about it is appreciated.

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p.s. I have not used it nor have I been in a game where it was used.

I haven't used it...and forgot to post here about it apparently. I think 100 is too high. Since the territory is added mainly for trench games, it doesn't seem like players will have that much of an army count difference to be able to justify using it. Especially in multiplayer games without escalating cards.

[dolomite13]

I haven't used it...and forgot to post here about it apparently. I think 100 is too high. Since the territory is added mainly for trench games, it doesn't seem like players will have that much of an army count difference to be able to justify using it. Especially in multiplayer games without escalating cards.

I agree... I was thinking it still needs to be high enough to discourage early use as it is called "Final Lap"

There is a psychology of numbers that I believe would apply. At some point a number is so great nobody will ever want to use it but make that number too low and it will become the preferred strategy. I believe it should be between 40 and 60. I am actually leaning towards the lower end and think 40 may be just fine.

Thoughts?

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[iAmCaffeine]

Very rarely would I need to use final lap, so I'd rather see this map released again asap.

[dolomite13]

I have decided to drop the neutral on Final lap to 40 and make it Killer 40

Here is the latest update. I think this should be it. Well I would actually expect one more round of positioning tweaks for the numbers but then that is it.

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XML Conquer500z40a - Map 1.1.8

Conquer500z40a.xml

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[Faro]

Could you please check the log on Game 13531607.

On round 5 I had the following bonus

2013-10-31 16:36:31 - Incrementing game to round 5
2013-10-31 16:36:46 - Faro got bonus of 2 troops added to Crew 2
2013-10-31 16:36:46 - Faro got bonus of 2 troops added to Crew 5
2013-10-31 16:36:46 - Faro received 3 troops for holding A Pit Fuel and A Pit Tires and A Pit Engine

Problem is I held only the following at that time:
- Fuel B
- Tire C
- Engine C

So not A engine, tire of fuel. If I understand the legend correctly it's probably just a problem of phrasing for this bonus.

Edit: hmm by reading it again, I guess it's because the name of each territory start with the A capital. If it's the case, sorry for the not really helpful post.


Thank you

[Gilligan]

Could you please check the log on Game 13531607.

On round 5 I had the following bonus

2013-10-31 16:36:31 - Incrementing game to round 5
2013-10-31 16:36:46 - Faro got bonus of 2 troops added to Crew 2
2013-10-31 16:36:46 - Faro got bonus of 2 troops added to Crew 5
2013-10-31 16:36:46 - Faro received 3 troops for holding A Pit Fuel and A Pit Tires and A Pit Engine

Problem is I held only the following at that time:
- Fuel B
- Tire C
- Engine C

So not A engine, tire of fuel. If I understand the legend correctly it's probably just a problem of phrasing for this bonus.

Edit: hmm by reading it again, I guess it's because the name of each territory start with the A capital. If it's the case, sorry for the not really helpful post.


Thank you

You don't need to hold Fuel A, Tire A and Engine A to get the bonus. It can be a mix of letters, just as long as you hold one of each. You could hold Fuel A, Tire B and Engine C to get the bonus as well. Therefore it appears to be working correctly as you had one of each, just not the same letter of each.

EDIT: Hmmm I see what you mean here! You are referencing the A in the bonus wording:

Faro received 3 troops for holding A Pit Fuel and A Pit Tires and A Pit Engine

This is a fair point. Dolomite, perhaps it would be beneficial to use lowercase letters here.

Or you could do this;

Faro received 3 troops for holding 1 Pit Fuel, 1 Pit Tire and 1 Pit Engine
Faro received 6 troops for holding 2 Pit Fuels, 2 Pit Tires and 2 Pit Engines
Faro received 9 troops for holding 3 Pit Fuels, 3 Pit Tires and 3 Pit Engines

I'm a bigger fan of my second option. But of course it is your call!

[dolomite13]

Oooo yea maybe changing that to 1 instead of A will help make it clearer.

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[Faro]

yes just to make it clearer, it's not a big deal but might be confusing for some people (like me yesterday)