The Third Crusade [Quenched] Revamping

[RoamingNova]

the map seems a lilttle coplicated yet i think i could get the hang of it

[AndrewB]

The XML was updated without authors' knowledge. At least just a note could have been posted...

viewtopic.php?p=2531861#p2531861

[MrBenn]

The XML was updated without authors' knowledge. At least just a note could have been posted...

viewtopic.php?p=2531861#p2531861

Apologies for that - this map was a perfect of example of how to implement the new XML, and was discussed in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=127&t=113744

[theBastard]

this is great map, for me magic . I am playing it three times and I will play it to the time when I win it...

only one notice: Torlosa was Tortosa.

Kabanellas, I think about map of Crusades States, but there are opinions that it is not needed because yours Third Crusade. but I can complet my maps pack about Crusades - in Gameplay Workshop are two Baltic Crusades and Reconquista.
if you have interest and you think the map from Levant will be good PM me, please.

ones more thanks for Third Crusade

[Joodoo]

I have a questin about the objective win in this map. Do you need to hold all the territories that belong to the Jerusalem bonus region, or do you only need to hold the star of David?

[natty dread]

Jerusalem only, and all the other territories mentioned in the objective.

[iancanton]

the objective is a total of four regions, so jerusalem, in this case, means the star of david only.

ian.

[talonz]

Team victory conditions not working on this map. As a team we hold a starting position, granada, antioch and jeruselam at start of my turn (and my partners turn) but no victory....our entire plans were based around that...now we are out of position badly.....pls fix.


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[Victor Sullivan]

One person alone must hold all of the objective points.

[talonz]

That just confirms what I said...team victory conditions are not working.

[Incandenza]

That just confirms what I said...team victory conditions are not working.

There are no "team victory conditions." VCs are just like bonuses, they can't be jointly held by a team.

[talonz]

VCs are nothing like bonuses, and should be able to be jointly held by a team...otherwise there is no point to teamplay outside of total destruction of other teams, which in itself is another victory condition...

[Incandenza]

VCs are nothing like bonuses, and should be able to be jointly held by a team...otherwise there is no point to teamplay outside of total destruction of other teams, which in itself is another victory condition...

Well, then, I'd recommend you swing by the suggestions forum.

[ender516]

VCs are nothing like bonuses, and should be able to be jointly held by a team...otherwise there is no point to teamplay outside of total destruction of other teams, which in itself is another victory condition...

Victory conditions are very much like bonuses. A bonus is not awarded if a team holds a group of territories, only if an individual holds the group. If a team wants to earn a bonus, they must cooperate to allow one member to take and hold the group. Victory conditions work in precisely the same fashion and if you want your team to win via a victory condition, it will require the same type of cooperation. In fact, in order to explain victory conditions to those who show up in the Foundry (usually during the Beta phase) to complain that they have taken the territories but not immediately won, I usually describe a victory condition as the ultimate bonus. When your turn starts, if you hold all the regions of a bonus zone, you get extra troops to deploy, and if you hold all the regions of a victory condition, you win the game.

[talonz]

You do realize the incongruity that not all victory conditions are treated like that, given that the standard victory condition is 'remove all opposing players from the board' and one *can* do that as a team?

And sure, alt. victory conditions are currently treated like bonuses, my point being is that they shouldnt be.

They are not the same animal.

At any rate, started a thread in suggestions forum given that this is apparently not a single map issue.