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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby Jatekos on Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:45 am

Congrats for the map. It looks really nice, I am looking forward to play it.
I have a couple of suggestions:
- Accents on the Hungarian letters curve to the right, and not to the left. Veszprém and Szatmár is written correctly, but the accents on the other names look a bit strange for me. I think that the following names need to be updated: Nógrád, Máramaros (á was on the wrong place, too), Csík, Háromszék, Bács-Bodrog).
- Please also add a "-" to Maros-Torda.
- I like the colours used for the map, but I think Bosnia & Herzegovina's blue could be replaced with another colour. It looks like it had water regions, not lands (especially that it is next to the sea).
- The title of the map is also missing a hyphen. It should read "The Austro-Hungarian Empire".
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby MarshalNey on Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:08 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:I mostly agree with all you wrote, the only thing i don't like to change is to make the dual monarchy able to attack. I think it's better to have it as it is, in my mind it looks better. But I've noted this in the OP, if people will ask for the change, I'll take it into consideration. ;)

About neutrals, do you think something like in this version is better?

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Pest and Lower Austria changed to 3 neutrals
Both Thrones with 4 neutrals
Dual Monarchy with 6 neutrals

MarshalNey wrote:(3) Question: does the Austro-Hungarian Condominium count as part of neither Cisleithania or Transleithania? I'm assuming that is the answer, although it could possibly be both...


Yes, Bosnia & Herzegovina is a sort of neutral place, for historical consistence. I was going to write something like: "it isn't part of any bonus" but it would look strange being written next to a bonus... :? ;)
So i used the minimaps, i think they explain what is part of Cisleithania or Transleithania.... No? :-k


Sorry for the delayed response, I've been sick...

Yes, this looks much better. Keeping the Dual Monarchy as bombardment is fine, and Sully makes a good case for it. As for the the Condominium, yes I think it can logically be inferred to be neither Cisleithania or Transleithania, but I'm anticipating that some players might be unsure nevertheless without explicit information. It's not a big deal, many map legends require some inference as there's just not enough room to spell everything out.

Overall I'm content with the gameplay, but I'll ask the others to see what they think before giving this a sticky.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby MarshalNey on Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:22 am

If nodody voices any problems with the gameplay within the next two days, this map will be promoted.
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby Jatekos on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:47 pm

Will the points I raised be addressed at a later stage?
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:04 pm

Jatekos wrote:Will the points I raised be addressed at a later stage?


About accents I can change all them; Do you notice other names that need a fix?
Also the title and maros-torda will be fixed asap. O:)
About serbia color, i'll be happy to play a bit more with it as soon as the map reaches the graphics stage.

thanks for your help :)
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby MarshalNey on Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:41 am

Notwithstanding the name changes, which I'm sure nobodies already has in hand, this map is overdue for Graphics. Onward and upward!

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Congratulations nobodies! =D>

PS I'm hoping to see more historical maps like this one... any more in the works?

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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby neanderpaul14 on Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:18 am

Looks awesome, love the look of the forests.

Can't wait to play it.
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby Jatekos on Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:58 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:Do you notice other names that need a fix?

Nope. The Hungarian ones will be fine after the update. Unfortunately I am not familiar with all the other names.
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby theBastard on Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:06 pm

Jatekos wrote:
thenobodies80 wrote:Do you notice other names that need a fix?

Nope. The Hungarian ones will be fine after the update. Unfortunately I am not familiar with all the other names.


what is the idea here, nobodies? to have all names correct in "its" language? if yes, I can help you with czech names...
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:45 pm

There was a Hungarian speaker who helped me with German Unification, I know he posted in the thread. Perhaps you could look him up if you need help with the Hungarian names.
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby theBastard on Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:26 am

Industrial Helix wrote:There was a Hungarian speaker who helped me with German Unification, I know he posted in the thread. Perhaps you could look him up if you need help with the Hungarian names.


Jatekos is Hungarian, so I can not see problem here :)
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:07 am

theBastard wrote:
Jatekos wrote:
thenobodies80 wrote:Do you notice other names that need a fix?

Nope. The Hungarian ones will be fine after the update. Unfortunately I am not familiar with all the other names.


what is the idea here, nobodies? to have all names correct in "its" language? if yes, I can help you with czech names...


Yeah that was the idea, but using historical ones.
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby Jatekos on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:50 am

Industrial Helix wrote:There was a Hungarian speaker who helped me with German Unification, I know he posted in the thread. Perhaps you could look him up if you need help with the Hungarian names.

I know that he is keeping an eye on this thread and helping here as well. :)
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby theBastard on Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:44 am

the main problem with names (original, historic ones) for territories in Bohemia is that there are so large that each include more small historic regions. I think you can go with names as you have now, just with Czech names (if this is your idea):

Northern Bohemia - Severní Čechy
Central Bohemia - Střední Čechy
Southern Bohemia - Jižní Čechy
Silesia - Slezsko
Moravia - Morava

but I found some old maps from around 1900 and there were German names used also in Bohemia...
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 07 Jan

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:06 pm

that lake looks a bit strange... it might the shape?
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 05 Feb

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:23 am

Here's the update:

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List of Changes:

  • Fixed wrong names/accents/etc....anyone has other suggestions about names?
  • Some minor improvement to the legends and i used a different background for them.
  • Small version
  • The Balaton Lake, i fixed it but, if you don't like the shape again, then complain about erosion :mrgreen:
  • Added the hyphen to the title

Now, the small version is 630x485 px right now, i think that some extra pixels (20-50) could help to increase readability of legends; but I'm also happy with it as it is because personally i can't say I'm not able to read it....so if people don't have problems to read them too i won't ask for additional space.
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Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 05 Feb

Postby theBastard on Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:34 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:
  • Fixed wrong names/accents/etc....anyone has other suggestions about names?


hm, you use Hungarian names, Croatian names, but why not German for Austria and maybe Bohemia?
thenobodies80 wrote:
  • Some minor improvement to the legends and i used a different background for them.
  • Small version


  • I like them...
    thenobodies80 wrote:
  • The Balaton Lake, i fixed it but, if you don't like the shape again, then complain about erosion :mrgreen:
  • Added the hyphen to the title


  • I like new title. but the lake and rivers looks as they are "upper" as land. could you do them lower?
    thenobodies80 wrote:Now, the small version is 630x485 px right now, i think that some extra pixels (20-50) could help to increase readability of legends; but I'm also happy with it as it is because personally i can't say I'm not able to read it....so if people don't have problems to read them too i won't ask for additional space.
    Someone has problem/find hard to read the legend on the small version?


    I have no problems to read it. hope nobody. also Marshal ;)
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    Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 05 Feb

    Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:49 pm

    theBastard wrote:
    thenobodies80 wrote:
    • Fixed wrong names/accents/etc....anyone has other suggestions about names?


    hm, you use Hungarian names, Croatian names, but why not German for Austria and maybe Bohemia?


    will do, i forgot about them, anyway it's something easy and quick to do ;)

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  • The Balaton Lake, i fixed it but, if you don't like the shape again, then complain about erosion :mrgreen:
  • Added the hyphen to the title


  • I like new title. but the lake and rivers looks as they are "upper" as land. could you do them lower?


    It's lower, the shadow is inside not outside, so it can't be upper than the land. In any case it isn't techincally possible to do it lower than now. O:)
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    Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 05 Feb

    Postby Industrial Helix on Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:29 pm

    I can read it, but its small. I also think everything on the small map is small, which is why I play the large map. So I'm a bit biased. Any other complainers on the text of the small map?
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    Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 05 Feb

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    Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 05 Feb

    Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:01 pm

    How goes it, nobodies? It'd be a cryin' shame if this were to be binned - I love the throne/monarchy mechanism and look forward to playing it.
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    Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 05 Feb

    Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:26 pm

    Currently it's exactly what you can see in the first post. RL is hectic these days. Anyway I think I can work on this and post something by the end of the week. Promised ;)
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    Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 05 Feb

    Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:58 pm

    thenobodies80 wrote:Currently it's exactly what you can see in the first post. RL is hectic these days. Anyway I think I can work on this and post something by the end of the week. Promised ;)

    *Yay!* :)
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    Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 19 Feb

    Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:33 pm

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    here below, how the left lower legend should look with a larger small version. (just a quick preview)

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    Re: Austro-Hungarian Empire - Update 19 Feb

    Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:37 pm

    =D> Yay! =D>

    So, I assume you want an increase for the small version? Let me discuss this with- wait, dammit...
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