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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:57 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Cairnsy. You never responded to my PM several weeks ago.

It says in the legend under Batting Team "PC4 & 5 border 5 Pavilion positions", but if you look at how the map is drawn it appears they only border 4 positions (PC5 and Batsman4 have a wall between them).

Can you clarify please, coz this coz really trip someone up in an esc game. Thanks

Yeh sorry CoF.
I did read your issue, but cyclone stuff has got in the way, and I'm sorry but that is more important.
You are indeed quite correct, and I will have to fix the graphic as soon as I can.
For now, however, uni starts this week and i have much preparation to do.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby Chariot of Fire on Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:56 am

OK mate, thanks. Do I take it that PC5 & Batsman4 are connected then (you didn't clarify)?
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby nikola_milicki on Tue May 03, 2011 7:02 am

cant read the whole thread to see if its there already but its only 1 question - why is yellow bonus (calypso kings) +3, seems too high compared to other bonuses, maybe if it bordered with 3 different lands it would be worth 3 but it borders only 2 and has only 3 lands which is 1 or 2 lands less then other +3 bonuses?
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby mr. CD on Tue May 03, 2011 7:30 am

nikola_milicki wrote:cant read the whole thread to see if its there already but its only 1 question - why is yellow bonus (calypso kings) +3, seems too high compared to other bonuses, maybe if it bordered with 3 different lands it would be worth 3 but it borders only 2 and has only 3 lands which is 1 or 2 lands less then other +3 bonuses?


It does border three lands, Public 01, Public 02 and Macey (LA6 left out).
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby nikola_milicki on Tue May 03, 2011 10:22 am

oh right, missed it, thnx.. but still +3 seems too much, think +2 wouldve been enough, its pretty much the same as kiwi bonus, no need to make a 3 land area +3 bonus just cuz macey borders two lands so its a bit harder to defend it
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu May 05, 2011 1:07 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:OK mate, thanks. Do I take it that PC5 & Batsman4 are connected then (you didn't clarify)?


Cairnsy - you never got back to me re this enquiry. As much as I'd love to play Cricket with esc cards I'm having to stay away from it until I know what the answer is. It could seriously screw up a sweep of the board if it turns out those two territories don't connect. Cheers
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby ender516 on Fri May 06, 2011 11:52 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:OK mate, thanks. Do I take it that PC5 & Batsman4 are connected then (you didn't clarify)?


Cairnsy - you never got back to me re this enquiry. As much as I'd love to play Cricket with esc cards I'm having to stay away from it until I know what the answer is. It could seriously screw up a sweep of the board if it turns out those two territories don't connect. Cheers

Here are some extracts from the XML:
Code: Select all
<territory>
   <name>Batsman 4</name>
   <borders>
      <border>1st All rounder</border>
      <border>Batsman 3</border>
      <border>Batter 1</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

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<territory>
   <name>PC5</name>
   <borders>
      <border>PC4</border>
      <border>Police Room</border>
      <border>PC3</border>
      <border>Public 14</border>
      <border>1st All rounder</border>
      <border>Fast Bowler 1</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

From this we see that PC5 and Batsman 4 are NOT connected. The map does show a special border between these territories, similar to but thinner that the one separating, say, Fast Bowler 1 and Public 14.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby Chariot of Fire on Fri May 06, 2011 1:28 pm

Yes thanks, I'm aware that on the map there is that wall between PC5 and Batsman 4. I'm not sure it should be there though (Cairnsy said he would redraw it).

If you read the legend it says under The Batting Team "PC 4 and 5 border 5 Pavilion positions" but this can only be true if PC5 and Batsman 4 connect.

Therefore I need to know if the map is drawn incorrectly or the legend is written incorrectly. Either way, one of those things has to change because I won't play the map again until I know.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby ender516 on Fri May 06, 2011 2:51 pm

Well, I'm just guessing, but since cairnswk said he would change the graphic, not the XML, I think he is going for "PC 4 and 5 border 4 Pavilion positions". The map and the XML agree, so it seems like the legend is wrong.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Fri May 06, 2011 5:26 pm

Guys, I am aware of this error, at present however, you are going to have to wait until my uni exams are done in a couple of weeks. Study is more important at present as it costs over $1000/subject, and maps don't pay anything.
Please be patient.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby Chariot of Fire on Fri May 06, 2011 11:14 pm

ender516 wrote:Well, I'm just guessing, but since cairnswk said he would change the graphic, not the XML, I think he is going for "PC 4 and 5 border 4 Pavilion positions". The map and the XML agree, so it seems like the legend is wrong.


Ah ok, thanks mate. I wasn't sure at first if the XML determined the gameplay or the graphic (I'm not savvy on this stuff) but I realise from your statement that it must be the former. Much appreciated.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:32 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Yes thanks, I'm aware that on the map there is that wall between PC5 and Batsman 4. I'm not sure it should be there though (Cairnsy said he would redraw it).

If you read the legend it says under The Batting Team "PC 4 and 5 border 5 Pavilion positions" but this can only be true if PC5 and Batsman 4 connect.

Therefore I need to know if the map is drawn incorrectly or the legend is written incorrectly. Either way, one of those things has to change because I won't play the map again until I know.


CoF, here are the graphic changes i made as promised. There is no change to gameplay or xml. As soon as i here from you that you are happy with this, thereafter i will forward to lackattack for upload.

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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:27 pm

The update was sent to lackattack and is now available for playing!

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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:34 pm

Thanks tnb80. :)
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby Teflon Kris on Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:18 pm

Cant believe the bowler isn't a starting neutral !!

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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:24 pm

DJ Teflon wrote:Cant believe the bowler isn't a starting neutral !!

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I can't beleive you'd send me to a game that is foggy - i can't see a damn thing as to who is who on the field.
A match wouldn't be played under such conditions. :lol:
And in RL, you wouldn't have a match unless there was a bowler.
Come on DJ :)
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby s3xt0y on Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:39 pm

DJ Teflon wrote:Cant believe the bowler isn't a starting neutral !!

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I agree a starting bonus like this seems severely unfair

Read through the last 5 pages of this thread and it seems that there was a lot of issue with the bowler being a big bonus then not and so on, really I dont think that he should be any bonus at all, whoever starts with him has a huge advantage especially if they get to go first.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:15 am

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DJ Teflon wrote:Cant believe the bowler isn't a starting neutral !!

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I agree a starting bonus like this seems severely unfair

Read through the last 5 pages of this thread and it seems that there was a lot of issue with the bowler being a big bonus then not and so on, really I dont think that he should be any bonus at all, whoever starts with him has a huge advantage especially if they get to go first.


Thanks for your thoughts s3Xt0y
Gather your forces and if there is enough feedback in the same direction i will consider the change, but it will have to be substantial feedback, not just those in your current game.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby s3xt0y on Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:32 am

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DJ Teflon wrote:Cant believe the bowler isn't a starting neutral !!

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I agree a starting bonus like this seems severely unfair

Read through the last 5 pages of this thread and it seems that there was a lot of issue with the bowler being a big bonus then not and so on, really I dont think that he should be any bonus at all, whoever starts with him has a huge advantage especially if they get to go first.


Thanks for your thoughts s3Xt0y
Gather your forces and if there is enough feedback in the same direction i will consider the change, but it will have to be substantial feedback, not just those in your current game.

I'm just curious how something unbalanced was allowed to be made into a map at all? A bonus of +2 for whoever holds it...and since its not a starting neutral someone will hold it.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby alt1978 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:40 am

Probably just piling on here...but having played more than a couple of games on it...the bowler in my opinion should start as a neutral. Was it ever suggested to make it just a +1 neutral? That way it wouldn't take game play away from the middle of the pitch which is important to the flow you wanted to create I think...but that way it eliminates the advantage of the player who drops it...and then gets to go first?

I would say in quads it doesn't matter as much (small chance of holding it and going first) but in dubs and singles it's a pretty significant advantage to get it and go turn 1.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:05 am

Gentlemen etc. I have relented about the bowler starting neutral.
Fortunately, 100 terrs less 29 neutrals is still a golden number, so this creates no issue for balance according to my reckoning.
As soon as i can get confirmation from tnb80 about this, it will be uploaded.
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:16 am

Yeah, 71 is a gold number. I'll send the files to the turtle later, just the time to check everything properly ;)

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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:38 am

thenobodies80 wrote:Yeah, 71 is a gold number. I'll send the files to the turtle later, just the time to check everything properly ;)

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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:25 pm

the xml was updated! ;)
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Re: CRICKET: SILLY MID-ON

Postby cairnswk on Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:36 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:the xml was updated! ;)

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