German/Italian Unif.[D, Gp, Gr] BETA, all files p.1

[natty dread]

too crucial of a territory

Well, wouldn't that be a good reason to make it neutral? If the territory is so crucial, then making it neutral should be more feasible - people are less likely to ignore the territory if it's in a crucial position...

But you probably know better, so in that case I suggest Magenta.

[Industrial Helix]

too crucial of a territory

Well, wouldn't that be a good reason to make it neutral? If the territory is so crucial, then making it neutral should be more feasible - people are less likely to ignore the territory if it's in a crucial position...

But you probably know better, so in that case I suggest Magenta.

That's an interesting perspective. What I'm afraid of is that the neutral will be taken advantage of in terms of a player holding Austria and getting Venezia or stocking up in the Duchies and not worrying about the only bridge across the Po River.

[natty dread]

player holding Austria and getting Venezia or stocking up in the Duchies and not worrying about the only bridge across the Po River.

Yes, but the "not worrying" might come back and bite them in the ass... After all, 3 troops is hardly an adequate barrier when the stacks grow past 20...

[Industrial Helix]

player holding Austria and getting Venezia or stocking up in the Duchies and not worrying about the only bridge across the Po River.

Yes, but the "not worrying" might come back and bite them in the ass... After all, 3 troops is hardly an adequate barrier when the stacks grow past 20...

Very true, but in the 1 v 1 games I've played lately, Europe 1914, a stack of three neutrals is all i need to leave a territory unguarded. It might just be my preferred strategy though.

[natty dread]

Meh, it's fine, just put the neutrals on Magenta... that'll solve the issue.

[Gilligan]

Sorry about the wait - I'll post the images with coordinates tomorrow...Been busy.

[Gilligan]

Okay here we go.

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[Industrial Helix]

Looks good to me. Aeosta could go up and Taranto could go up.

Germany looks perfect.

[MrBenn]

What was your final decision about start positions / neutral armies?

[Industrial Helix]

On Italy Magenta has neutral 3.

On Germany, either magyar kiralysag or slowakei has a neutral 3.

[Industrial Helix]

Here's everything all together:

http://h1.ripway.com/industhelix/GermanUnification.xml

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AND

http://h1.ripway.com/industhelix/UnififyItaly.xml

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Forza has given the xml the ok and I think we're good... how about that stamp?

[ender516]

Just to get it clear about the split bonuses:

If, for example, I hold L'Empire des Francais, Preußische Rehinprovinzen, and Elsaß and Lothringen, I would receive a total bonus of 6: 2 for L'Empire des Francais and 4 for Preußische Rehinprovinzen with Elsaß and Lothringen, because that is more than 3 for L'Empire des Francais with Elsaß and Lothringen and 2 for Preußische Rehinprovinzen. Have I got that right?

[Industrial Helix]

Just to get it clear about the split bonuses:

If, for example, I hold L'Empire des Francais, Preußische Rehinprovinzen, and Elsaß and Lothringen, I would receive a total bonus of 6: 2 for L'Empire des Francais and 4 for Preußische Rehinprovinzen with Elsaß and Lothringen, because that is more than 3 for L'Empire des Francais with Elsaß and Lothringen and 2 for Preußische Rehinprovinzen. Have I got that right?

Yep.

[ender516]

Just to get it clear about the split bonuses:

If, for example, I hold L'Empire des Francais, Preußische Rehinprovinzen, and Elsaß and Lothringen, I would receive a total bonus of 6: 2 for L'Empire des Francais and 4 for Preußische Rehinprovinzen with Elsaß and Lothringen, because that is more than 3 for L'Empire des Francais with Elsaß and Lothringen and 2 for Preußische Rehinprovinzen. Have I got that right?

Yep.

Then I think you need to fix the XML. A quick glance shows the the cnntinent containing all these gets a bonus of 4 and overrides the other continents. I'm afraid most of the bonuses are mixed up like this.

[Industrial Helix]

Just to get it clear about the split bonuses:

If, for example, I hold L'Empire des Francais, Preußische Rehinprovinzen, and Elsaß and Lothringen, I would receive a total bonus of 6: 2 for L'Empire des Francais and 4 for Preußische Rehinprovinzen with Elsaß and Lothringen, because that is more than 3 for L'Empire des Francais with Elsaß and Lothringen and 2 for Preußische Rehinprovinzen. Have I got that right?

Yep.

Then I think you need to fix the XML. A quick glance shows the the cnntinent containing all these gets a bonus of 4 and overrides the other continents. I'm afraid most of the bonuses are mixed up like this.

Thanks for the tip... I fixed everything so it should be good to go.

[Gilligan]

Hmm...Sorry about that, must have misunderstood.

[Industrial Helix]

Hmm...Sorry about that, must have misunderstood.

NP, I barely understand it myself

[MrBenn]

I've been informed that the Italian Unification map is OK... I just need to confirm that the German one is OK too...

[Industrial Helix]

Hmm, looks like it was submitted to Forza... did you PM him, MrBenn, or should I?

[MrBenn]

Apparently there were some issues with the XML for the German map - do you know if Gilligan has addresses/updated these?

[Industrial Helix]

Gilligan says he PMed Forza the corrected version. I dunno if Forza checked it and just never told you or just didn't check it.

[Gilligan]

Let's make sure we're all on the same page...

http://h1.ripway.com/industhelix/GermanUnification.xml

Does that XML have issues?

[Industrial Helix]

Let's make sure we're all on the same page...

http://h1.ripway.com/industhelix/GermanUnification.xml

Does that XML have issues?

This would have been the version you gave me, Gilligan. I expect it is also the one you sent to Forza as the revised edition. I already sent it to Forza myself to see what he says.

[Gilligan]

Let's make sure we're all on the same page...

http://h1.ripway.com/industhelix/GermanUnification.xml

Does that XML have issues?

This would have been the version you gave me, Gilligan. I expect it is also the one you sent to Forza as the revised edition. I already sent it to Forza myself to see what he says.

Yeah, I had assumed that it was my XML with your tweak in it. Now we wait to hear on Forza.

[Industrial Helix]

OK, the XML is correct now.

Looks like we're good. the updated link is on the first page.