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Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:49 am

Congratulations for the quench RJ. I am very happy that this map has finally made it. Well done!
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:34 am

Original Quote from March-15...
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RjBeals wrote:Lupo's post was insane. I remember reading it and getting disappointed. I know he/she has strong feelings for the map, and I realize there are few borders / rivers that aren't true to the italian landscape - but it's only a game. It's not going in a textbook. Lupo had a huge post with reference maps and such. Would have almost taken a fresh start to fix some of the areas. I have much respect for Lupo, but I wasn't planning on making some/most of the changes requested.


I agree with you RJ. I love it when a map is authentic but I also know this is not always possible when it involves gameplay as I have tried to do a CC map myself. Lupo probably does not know how difficult it can be as he never tried to make a map.

The only thing I would like to change is that Milano issue I mentioned earlier but I know it would hinder gameplay at this stage since it was not thought out at the start. That's why I say again...

Andy QUENCH this map now!


Lupo - sorry you are happy with the overall outcome of this map. I know you've followed this most of the year, and did take a lot of time to comment. I'm sure you remember, but if you read back through these pages, I did (I'm pretty sure) or another member did respond to all your concerns. I even tried to Pantelleria into an exploded box, Like Hawaii on US maps - it just didn't work. And some of the Territory's borders aren't true, and the names could have been changed, but it just didn't work right for me. As I said in March, it's only a game. :wink:
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Postby mibi on Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:41 am

I must say this map is drop dead gorgeous and I'd say, captures the essence of its subject more than any other place specific map on the site. Especially the type and color choices.

well done.
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:08 am

mibi wrote:I must say this map is drop dead gorgeous and I'd say, captures the essence of its subject more than any other place specific map on the site. Especially the type and color choices.

well done.


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Thanks mibi - means a lot coming from you!
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Postby RobinJ on Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:42 pm

Congrats Rj - the map's a guddun - should make for a few good games very shortly
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Postby gimil on Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:25 pm

It seems that there is an issue with city bonuses not appearing in greasemonkey.

I took a look into it and found that all city bonuses had a + in front of th number. I though this may be problem so ive PM'ed lack asking if its possible that this is the case and i also attached a tweeked XML without hte + sign.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pz0tue
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Postby RjBeals on Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:50 pm

thanks gimil - i hope that's the case.
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Postby gimil on Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:53 pm

RjBeals wrote:thanks gimil - i hope that's the case.


no problem buddy. you played a game yet?
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Postby RjBeals on Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:51 pm

I've got 2 open, and only taken 1 turn so far. It's a busy weekend, but I'll have a more going during the week.
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Postby Chaimpie on Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:53 am

Posted this too in the bugs section:

I've got a problem. In game 951602, we got a +5 bonus with 3 citta and even 14 with 4 Citta, then listed by greasemonkey to 41 with 5, but we haven't seen that cashed. I think this is a serious problem since now it's all about having the Citta.

For the rest it's a beautiful map.
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Postby casper on Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:21 am

same problem here. the legend says 3 cities is a +2. greasemonkey says a player with 3 cities has a +5 bonus coming from it.
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Postby Coleman on Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:27 am

BOB doesn't understand the new xml. That's the problem, they've been working on a version that does though.
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Postby gimil on Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:45 am

Coleman wrote:BOB doesn't understand the new xml. That's the problem, they've been working on a version that does though.


there is no new XML features in the italy XML. rj has made hte city bonuses with every possible combination and jsut used the old continent tag. I was looking into this last night and the problem may be that for all the city bonuses rj put a "+" sign in front of the number. I took these all out and PM lack hte updates XML. hes told me he updated so hopefully bob should be able to read it now.
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Postby Coleman on Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:49 am

Wait, wth? I redid the xml for this, it shouldn't be using the old xml.

The old xml is outrageously broken for this map.

http://members.cox.net/gyrigo/CC/Italy.xml <- It should be that xml. His current xml is going to give people 20+ or something for holding all 5 cittas.

I sent mine to lack. :(
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Postby gimil on Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:08 am

oh dear :(

i jsut changd the XML form the latest link on thsi thread
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Postby Coleman on Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:15 am

It should turn out fine. Glad you tried to help. :)
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Postby gimil on Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:22 am

Coleman wrote:It should turn out fine. Glad you tried to help. :)


i feel like such a cock :(

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Postby Coleman on Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:35 am

If you hadn't done anything it would have taken me at least another day to notice.
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Postby Gilligan on Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:49 am

Something is still wrong...Green has 3 Cittas, and he's getting a +5...Game 950200
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Postby Coleman on Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:54 am

yeah, a fix has been sent to lack. Wait tell you see what 5 gets you. :lol:
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Postby Wisse on Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:09 am

i wrote this in anotehr topic:

i think i finely know what this bug is about look to this:
you have got 5 cities, and i think the xml makes this fault, its combining every option:
5 citys = 4 armys
4 citys + 1 city = 3 + 0 = armys
3 citys + 2 citys = 2 + 1 = 3 armys
2 citys + 2 citys + 1 city = 1 + 1 + 0 = 2 armys
3 citys + 1 city + 1 city = 2 + 0 + 0 = 2 armys

is a total of 14 armys
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Postby unriggable on Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:45 am

Is it supposed to be all capital letters?
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Postby Gilligan on Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:46 am

That does annoy a little.
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Postby RjBeals on Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:19 am

I made them all capital letters to match the font graphics on the map. Sorry if it's annoying. Hopefully the new/revised xml will be replaced soon.. Thanks all.
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Postby rebelman on Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:05 pm

I agree its a nice map but all those capital letters has to get a thumbs down
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