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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby RjBeals on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:15 pm

there you go with those beautiful mountains again.
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Peter Gibbons on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:33 pm

hatchman wrote:True true... I was just thinking perhaps other parts of the world could be explored which aren't already in the map selection. But there's no stopping you from doing more maps in the future. They're really quite good.
I think that, once Antarctica gets quenched, in some way the entire globe has been "explored." Each continent has at least one map dedicated to it at this point. If anything, South America is one of the most under-represented--it's only got the South America, Triple Alliance and Brazil maps, right? There have to be other specific areas of South America to explore (just like there are many in Africa that should be). Maybe a detailed map of Tierra del Fuego?

Oh, and it goes without saying that I think this is a great map--especially with the continuity off of his last one. I hope it gets through the foundry as quick as possible.

As an aside, perhaps I'm in minority, but I'm not a fan of the South America map atall. A North American revamp was tried recently and people seemed opposed to it. Perhaps there's more support for a South America revamp?
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:41 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:Crap.



You blind or???


Good luck Tisha. I am sure you will be fixing the colors a bit to make it more in line with North America. :)
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:43 pm

Nice add on to this map...

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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:44 pm

Peter Gibbons wrote:
hatchman wrote:True true... I was just thinking perhaps other parts of the world could be explored which aren't already in the map selection. But there's no stopping you from doing more maps in the future. They're really quite good.
I think that, once Antarctica gets quenched, in some way the entire globe has been "explored." Each continent has at least one map dedicated to it at this point. If anything, South America is one of the most under-represented--it's only got the South America, Triple Alliance and Brazil maps, right? There have to be other specific areas of South America to explore (just like there are many in Africa that should be). Maybe a detailed map of Tierra del Fuego?

Oh, and it goes without saying that I think this is a great map--especially with the continuity off of his last one. I hope it gets through the foundry as quick as possible.

As an aside, perhaps I'm in minority, but I'm not a fan of the South America map atall. A North American revamp was tried recently and people seemed opposed to it. Perhaps there's more support for a South America revamp?




Hmmmm.....how about a Faklands War map???
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Hatchman on Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:39 am

neanderpaul14 wrote:
Peter Gibbons wrote:
hatchman wrote:True true... I was just thinking perhaps other parts of the world could be explored which aren't already in the map selection. But there's no stopping you from doing more maps in the future. They're really quite good.
I think that, once Antarctica gets quenched, in some way the entire globe has been "explored." Each continent has at least one map dedicated to it at this point. If anything, South America is one of the most under-represented--it's only got the South America, Triple Alliance and Brazil maps, right? There have to be other specific areas of South America to explore (just like there are many in Africa that should be). Maybe a detailed map of Tierra del Fuego?

Oh, and it goes without saying that I think this is a great map--especially with the continuity off of his last one. I hope it gets through the foundry as quick as possible.

As an aside, perhaps I'm in minority, but I'm not a fan of the South America map atall. A North American revamp was tried recently and people seemed opposed to it. Perhaps there's more support for a South America revamp?




Hmmmm.....how about a Faklands War map???


Yeah that's what I'm getting at: more "micro-regions" that aren't too small, like San Marino and some of the city maps.

By the way, I was thinking about Tisha's map and I thought her bridges could be those really perilous ones with slats missing, like you see in Indiana Jones :) But not sure if these can be represented clearly on such a small scale...
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Industrial Helix on Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:22 pm

Anyone notice that Central America is getting the shaft? I dare say it may be too late to include more regions on the N. America map but I think there is the possibility of including them on this map.. at the very least Panama and maybe Trinidad. Perhaps shrink the continent slightly and move it over to the east some and you can fit more of Central America, I think.

The colors are a tad too saturated, even in comparison with the N. America map. I'm in favor of toning it down a notch or so.

For some reason I imagined South America to be featured in cool colors rather than warm as a nice contrast with the N. America map. Obviously the decision is yours, but I'm just suggesting.

I'm having trouble with color differentiation as well... There are three regions south of the amazon, correct? The colors don't seem to match the corresponding legend also. A little tweaking with them should do.

As for Chilean Archipelago, isn't an archipelago a group of islands? I dunno if its the title of he area anyway and you took it from that, but it's kind of misleading.

Anyway, looks great, I'm looking forward to seeing this progress.
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby lostatlimbo on Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:24 pm

That's hot.

(the map, I mean)

The rivers are a little too strong, but this looks great overall.
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby the.killing.44 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:06 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:Crap.



You blind or???


Good luck Tisha. I am sure you will be fixing the colors a bit to make it more in line with North America. :)

??? is the correct answer.

Not much to say…hmm, besides the obvious bridges on which you've already remarked (and for which I can't really think of a replacement atm), I see you made the rivers lighter. In fact, I think it would be the other way around; N. America's rivers are lighter in color I believe.

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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby sully800 on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:27 pm

I can't wait to see First Nations of Antarctica. ;)

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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Teflon Kris on Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:09 pm

hatchman wrote:Beautiful map Tisha, but we already got that continent covered... and quite well I might add.


Blatant northern-hemisphere-centric rubbish view!

Until we have Brazil Apocolypse, Argentina Map Pack, Cocaine Route, Columbian Jungle Warfare etc etc etc, we wont even be half-way to having "that continent covered".

Would be interesting to incorporate central america too - although it would be tricky game-play-wise as there would be a crazy columbian bottleneck (unless there are mexico to chile sea-routes or similar).

Nice map - stick with it :D
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Tisha on Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:40 pm

I have changed it to include more of Central America, just haven't posted it yet....the colors are giving me a hard time
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Tisha on Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:54 pm

42 or 48 territories? someone decide for me..
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby natty dread on Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:44 pm

42 is the answer :D
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby the.killing.44 on Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:59 pm

48 would be nice.
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby natty dread on Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:18 pm

It's the age-old question, asked by mankind since the dawn of times.

- how many territories must a man walk down?
- 42
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Tisha on Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:22 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:48 would be nice.

someone complained about 48 sucking for two player..
whoever goes first gets to start with 16 territories, and gets to deploy 5 (possibly taking their opponent down to only four men their first turn)
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby thenobodies80 on Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:03 pm

Tisha wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:48 would be nice.

someone complained about 48 sucking for two player..
whoever goes first gets to start with 16 territories, and gets to deploy 5 (possibly taking their opponent down to only four men their first turn)


Agree (and 12 regions in a 4 players game)
42 is a better number in my opinion

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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby sam_levi_11 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:28 pm

i like the look of this series alot, and am very interested in seeing if you will do a First Nations Of Central America, an area with interesting geography, history and is horrendously under represented.

No major pressing issues minus the bridges which look horrible imo.

Also the guy who commented south america is "covered" is talking bullshit. North america has Canada, USA, USA map pack, US rail, USA Apocalypse, US civil war and so on. Wake up.
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby Tisha on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:11 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:i like the look of this series alot, and am very interested in seeing if you will do a First Nations Of Central America, an area with interesting geography, history and is horrendously under represented.

No major pressing issues minus the bridges which look horrible imo.

Also the guy who commented south america is "covered" is talking bullshit. North america has Canada, USA, USA map pack, US rail, USA Apocalypse, US civil war and so on. Wake up.


you should read before you post

Central America isn't horrendously under represented.. I have an update, which includes more of Central America, that I haven't posted (which I stated above, along with the fact that I said I needed bridges still)
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:25 am

Tisha wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:i like the look of this series alot, and am very interested in seeing if you will do a First Nations Of Central America, an area with interesting geography, history and is horrendously under represented.

No major pressing issues minus the bridges which look horrible imo.

Also the guy who commented south america is "covered" is talking bullshit. North america has Canada, USA, USA map pack, US rail, USA Apocalypse, US civil war and so on. Wake up.


you should read before you post

Central America isn't horrendously under represented.. I have an update, which includes more of Central America, that I haven't posted (which I stated above, along with the fact that I said I needed bridges still)
Sorry i was pressed for time when i posted, ill read it all like a good little boy...
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby jefjef on Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:45 am

Sweet map. Great addition.

I do agree with DJ Teflon. Panama should be included. You could make a small bonus region. Think I saw ya say next revision.

Falkland islands are also missing.

You could easily up the terts and with neutral coding not make it too uncomfortable for 1v1.

Looks like ya could use more mountain barriers southern tip area.
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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:34 pm

jefjef wrote:Falkland islands are also missing.


True
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Falkland_Islands#Pre-European_discovery

The Falkland Islands were uninhabited when discovered by Europeans, but recent discoveries of arrowheads in Lafonia (on the southern half of East Falkland) as well as the remains of a wooden canoe provide strong evidence that they had been visited previously, most likely by the Yaghan people of Tierra del Fuego. It has also been suggested that the Falkland Island foxes, or warrahs, found on the islands were introduced by the Yaghans or another Amerindian tribe, bearing as they did a resemblance to the culpeo or Fuegian fox. It is not known if these are evidence of one-way journeys, but there is no known evidence of pre-Columbian buildings or structures.



I've searched something for your bridges, but for now I've not found anything that is good for your map. The hunt continues... ;)

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Re: First Nations of South America

Postby jefjef on Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:59 pm

For bridges use canoes.
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Re: First Nations of South America.. UPDATED 10/21

Postby Tisha on Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:53 pm

First Nations of South America
Territories: 48
Bonuses: 10

I STILL need bridges... :?
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