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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby danryan on Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:17 am

All excellent choices. This map is ready to be quenched and go live. An A+ effort, you and cairns are my top 2 favorite mapmakers on CC now. =D> \:D/
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby Kabanellas on Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:48 am

Thanks a lot Dan, it really means a lot!!!! Especially coming from you :)

The map files have been updated in the first page
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby ender516 on Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:49 pm

I guess that means I have another XML update to make. I will try for tonight.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby MrBenn on Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:40 pm

Cool fish.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby ender516 on Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:38 pm

Okay, here it is: NapoleonicEurope.V1.13.xml

This latest version differs from V1.12 (which never went live) in that V1.13 restores the United Kingdom bonus to 3 and removes the Naples-Bosnia link (which was proposed and accepted in this thread, but never made it onto a graphical version).

So, if this version goes live, it differs from the current live version (V1.11) in that the bonuses for Sweden, Naples, and Denmark have all been reduced from 2 to 1, and the abbreviation used in the XML for Saxony has been corrected from Sw to Sx.

Kabanellas, you will likely want to update the first post with the following:

XML- http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/9/2644838/NapoleonicEurope.V1.13.xml
Large map- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V41a_Image_OF.png
Small map- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V44_Image_small_OF.png
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby Commander9 on Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:10 pm

Perfect. A superb map gets even better - BRAVO and all hail the best map maker in CC =D>
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby Kabanellas on Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:41 pm

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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby ender516 on Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:50 pm

My pleasure.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby MrBenn on Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:24 pm

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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:08 pm

And the updates have gone live...
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby Arama86n on Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:24 pm

ender516 wrote:Okay, here it is: NapoleonicEurope.V1.13.xml

This latest version differs from V1.12 (which never went live) in that V1.13 restores the United Kingdom bonus to 3 and removes the Naples-Bosnia link (which was proposed and accepted in this thread, but never made it onto a graphical version).

So, if this version goes live, it differs from the current live version (V1.11) in that the bonuses for Sweden, Naples, and Denmark have all been reduced from 2 to 1, and the abbreviation used in the XML for Saxony has been corrected from Sw to Sx.

Kabanellas, you will likely want to update the first post with the following:

XML- http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/9/2644838/NapoleonicEurope.V1.13.xml
Large map- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V41a_Image_OF.png
Small map- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V44_Image_small_OF.png


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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby VicFontaine on Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:21 pm

So, if this version goes live, it differs from the current live version (V1.11) in that the bonuses for Sweden, Naples, and Denmark have all been reduced from 2 to 1, and the abbreviation used in the XML for Saxony has been corrected from Sw to Sx. --> Someone said this above. Sorry, couldn't get the "quote" button to work well.

Just wanted to throw my two-cents in here. I GREATLY dislike the changes. I can't figure out why anyone would attempt an early strategy for these regions now that they have been reduced. It is often difficult enough to take and hold them over the first 4-10 rounds, but now I think gameplay will show them even more difficult to hold to the point that players trying to do so will ultimately fail to win the game, especially in "no spoils."

I hope the designers, who have done an absolutely outstanding job with this map in EVERY respect, will go back to the +2 for each of these regions as bonuses.

Again, outstanding job, but greatly dislike the reduced bonuses.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby Patriot1985 on Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:40 pm

I agree with Vic. This is BY FAR my favorite map, I usually have 3 or 4 games going on it at a time. That being said, these new changes will make the game play less balanced in 8 player games. Naples was a tough gig already, and Sweden/Norway was a risky but sometimes successful early play before, but now I'm convinced that these are no longer viable early objectives. One of the most attractive aspects of this map was the almost countless paths to victory, but I think that these changes will serve to funnel more players' attention towards fewer legitimate starting strategies resulting in less competitive long-term games.

Also, I have noticed that the +1 bonus for Prussia w/Warsaw was down in the last game I played.

Again, like Vic, I really love this map and have a lot of experience on it, and I think these changes will have a negative affect on game-play.

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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby VicFontaine on Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:48 pm

What he said. I definitely foresee a great negative gameplay on the "many paths to victory" concepts. There is no feasible way for a player to begin and win with Naples. I don't see it happening.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Postby Army of GOD on Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:26 pm

I cannot disagree with you guys more. Many times in a 1v1 game someone will drop in either Sicily or Rome, take the Italy bonus and it'll be game over. And Sweden and Norway are well protected, so they shouldn't have been +2s to begin with.
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