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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby Bones2484 on Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:11 am

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I've had trouble with the blue color recently on the USA map.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:31 pm

So I guess there's no further support for this... that's a shame...
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:45 pm

Just saw the topic and I'll throw my support in here for it. Blue is the only color I seem to have problems with on multiple maps, and there's only so much turning brightness up to 100% and color codes can do...
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby jefjef on Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:15 pm

Well if it's changed DO NOT go much lighter/brighter.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby natty dread on Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:56 pm

Thanks for the support guys.

The logic behind changing blue colour is simple: there's 2 ways of solving the problem of blue being hard to see. Either make the background for army numbers light or make the blue colour lighter. Now there's already several maps where the background for army numbers is dark, so the first option would require changing lots of existing maps. The second option is obviously easier, and furthermore it allows more freedom in the making of future maps.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby porkenbeans on Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:06 pm

natty_dread wrote:Thanks for the support guys.

The logic behind changing blue colour is simple: there's 2 ways of solving the problem of blue being hard to see. Either make the background for army numbers light or make the blue colour lighter. Now there's already several maps where the background for army numbers is dark, so the first option would require changing lots of existing maps. The second option is obviously easier, and furthermore it allows more freedom in the making of future maps.
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Anything that goes to expanding the graphical possibilities, I am in favor of. =D>

Personally, (and I am not with perfect eye sight), to me, the blue numbers show up just fine on maps with dark backgrounds. Conquerman is black, and I can read the blue #'s very well.

Apparently some people do have a problem with reading the blue #'s.

So, just brighten it up as the op has suggested. This has been suggested many times in the past, and every time I see it brought up, I always speak up in favor of it. It seems like a no-brainer" to me. 8-)

Think "neon". Do not worry so much about the colors looking to close to each other. We have color codes for those that can not tell them apart.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby natty dread on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:40 am

I'd like to bump this up again. I still think this is a very necessary change.

The luminosity of a full-saturation blue colour (0000ff) is 9 times smaller than the luminosity of a full-saturation yellow (ffff00). The blue army numbers are constantly causing grief for mapmakers who have to make accommodations on maps just because of that one colour, even when all other numbers would be well visible.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby natty dread on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:41 am

Why is this in the rejected pile? There was plenty of support in the thread. Is it an official site stance that the colours won't be changed?
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:28 am

Yes I support this also. I could see a slight change.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby Dibbun on Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:32 am

I'm not a cartographer, but can't you just make a white circle behind the number? Then it wouldn't matter what the map color is, because any color would render well on that background (other than yellow maybe)

You could also use color codes, which are very convenient.. I use them sometimes because it's easier to get a sense of things on certain maps :)
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:46 am

White circles generally don't match up well with the typical graphical style of a map, if that makes sense. It's hard to make army circles look good in most cases, it seems.

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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:51 am

natty_dread wrote:Why is this in the rejected pile? There was plenty of support in the thread. Is it an official site stance that the colours won't be changed?

That would be my guess. Suggestions with not enough support are generally left in the main Suggestions forum. There was a lot of clean-up around here a while back, so who knows? Perhaps Merciful TheForgivenOne Of The Most High Suggs Mod may grace us with his abundance of wisdom and knowledge on the subject.

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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby blakebowling on Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:55 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Why is this in the rejected pile? There was plenty of support in the thread. Is it an official site stance that the colours won't be changed?

That would be my guess. Suggestions with not enough support are generally left in the main Suggestions forum. There was a lot of clean-up around here a while back, so who knows? Perhaps Merciful TheForgivenOne Of The Most High Suggs Mod may grace us with his abundance of wisdom and knowledge on the subject.

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I'm a suggs mod too sully :roll:

Also, it's in the rejected pile (which I still argue should simply be renamed Archived Suggestions, and Archived Implemented should just be Implemented) because it fell off the first three pages, and we occasionally clean the forum to keep it from growing uncontrollably. However, since this one has re-surfaced.

Moved back to the main forum.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:41 am

blakebowling wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Why is this in the rejected pile? There was plenty of support in the thread. Is it an official site stance that the colours won't be changed?

That would be my guess. Suggestions with not enough support are generally left in the main Suggestions forum. There was a lot of clean-up around here a while back, so who knows? Perhaps Merciful TheForgivenOne Of The Most High Suggs Mod may grace us with his abundance of wisdom and knowledge on the subject.

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I'm a suggs mod too sully :roll:

And Sam thinks I'm bright purple. Moving on!

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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby DiM on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:37 pm

i agree to making blue lighter but more importantly i would like the grey/slate to be changed. it's a horribly difficult colour.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby ender516 on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:05 am

I think a broader-based solution would be to make it possible to turn on an opaque background for the army numbers. Whether this would be toggled from one's control panel, or would simply appear when you hover over the number is an issue for later separate discussion.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:43 am

I never have any problem seeing the blue numbers. What I do often have a problem with are the green numbers. Fix the green before fixing the blue.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby lethlethe on Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:04 am

First of all, I think something should be done about the white armies. For some reason reason the white player always deadbeats! Annoying!
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby blakebowling on Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:11 pm

lethlethe wrote:First of all, I think something should be done about the white armies. For some reason reason the white player always deadbeats! Annoying!

Are you being serious now?

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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby QoH on Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:30 pm

ender516 wrote:I think a broader-based solution would be to make it possible to turn on an opaque background for the army numbers. Whether this would be toggled from one's control panel, or would simply appear when you hover over the number is an issue for later separate discussion.

This is possible, if you have BOB.

Go into a game, click on MAP OPTIONS, CIRCLE WHITNESS (each click makes the circles behind the armies 10% whiter)
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby blakebowling on Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:41 pm

QoH wrote:
ender516 wrote:I think a broader-based solution would be to make it possible to turn on an opaque background for the army numbers. Whether this would be toggled from one's control panel, or would simply appear when you hover over the number is an issue for later separate discussion.

This is possible, if you have BOB.

Go into a game, click on MAP OPTIONS, CIRCLE WHITNESS (each click makes the circles behind the armies 10% whiter)

Right.

It should be available as a site option.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby QoH on Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:55 pm

Obviously. As should all of BOB's features.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby natty dread on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:26 pm

Anyone who has ever been the blue player on Conquerman should know what this suggestion is about.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby 40kguy on Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:45 pm

why are we complaining about blue? fix the yellow troops.
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Re: Make blue army numbers lighter

Postby natty dread on Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:49 am

40kguy wrote:why are we complaining about blue? fix the yellow troops.


Because there's nothing wrong with yellow or any other colour. Only blue.
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