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[Site] Mapboard

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:35 am
by Qwert
Well these is more question for Chipv,because he create Map Rank for players.
Its will be good statistic tool, who will check all maps,to see how many games are waiting,active,finished, how many games are speed,freestule,manual, tournament.
Also will be good to get list of all maps, finished total,finished in one day games, active in day,waiting in day,all possible gameplay option calculated in one statistic list.
I dont know how to give example, but concept will be similar with map rank,instead to write player name,you write map name. I think that these will be great statistic tool. ;)
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in mine talk with chipv i came to new possible option:
"i just think of yours >ask a site<, and i realised that these can be created similar like new Scoreboard, where you can search players by score,medal,rating.
Its possible to site create Map Scoreboard, where will mapscan be selected,with parameters like active,finished,double triple,tournaments, no cards, escalating........etc,etc.
Also in map filter you can put to get list of recent years-All maps-2006 maps-2007 maps-2008 maps-2009 maps-2010 maps.
But instead to give you bunch of game numbers,result be listed like for players in numbers? what you think of that?"
----------------------------same like scoreboard,but instead players will give list of maps statistic
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Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:40 am
by chipv
qwert wrote:Well these is more question for Chipv,because he create Map Rank for players.
Its will be good statistic tool, who will check all maps,to see how many games are waiting,active,finished, how many games are speed,freestule,manual, tournament.
Also will be good to get list of all maps, finished total,finished in one day games, active in day,waiting in day,all possible gameplay option calculated in one statistic list.
I dont know how to give example, but concept will be similar with map rank,instead to write player name,you write map name. I think that these will be great statistic tool. ;)


Map Rank checks only finished games for specified player. Sometimes can be 10,000+ games

Your suggestion is possible but requires searching every game on CC, probably several million. This is better generated from the site.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:44 am
by Qwert
So its possibile.
I know that its possibile from site,but its very slow,and every gameplay option,need to do manualy.
For example,when i work on Map table,its take some time to check all 160 maps for finished games, and when you look how many gameplay option you have,its take very huge ammount of time to check all 160 maps.
Only few maps have over milion finished games, and all other have belove 100000 games

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:51 am
by chipv
qwert wrote:So its possibile.
I know that its possibile from site,but its very slow,and every gameplay option,need to do manualy.
For example,when i work on Map table,its take some time to check all 160 maps for finished games, and when you look how many gameplay option you have,its take very huge ammount of time to check all 160 maps.
Only few maps have over milion finished games, and all other have belove 100000 games


Oh I see, so you want to search on one map at a time, not all?

Hmm yes this can be done.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:34 pm
by Qwert
chipv
Oh I see, so you want to search on one map at a time, not all?

Hmm yes this can be done.
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great, can you create that? These can be amazing :)

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:15 am
by chipv
Unfortunately there is no support for waiting games at the moment, we can only do active and finished games.

What is the point of this anyway?

I did a first version yesterday and don't see much to use to it.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:11 pm
by Qwert
What is the point of this anyway?

I did a first version yesterday and don't see much to use to it.
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what its the point? Do you remember when far before,in general discusion forum Cairnswk,try to create map list by popularity, related to played and finished games, people love to watch map progress,unfortunatly that whas very huge job( because you can check maps only manualy).
If you say,that you can create program,who will give you results for more parameter then just 1, that can give option for much faster checking how many some maps have finished or active, or any other gameplay option. In one click,you will get all statistic,finished,played,speed,double,triple,escalating,quads,tournament,flat,no card, hell, even if you manage to create how many unique players play in one map,that will be apsolutly amazing stuff. This can give you new dimension of CC map statistic.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:20 pm
by chipv
Yes I remember , I did a script then also.

Unfortunately Classic has too many games, the script cannot handle it.
Also cannot do waiting games because of something missing in the CC API.

Maybe better to ask the site because people will complain script is taking too long to scan millions of games.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:49 am
by Qwert
well if classic have to many games,then this map can check manualy, its will be good if all other maps can check automaticaly. :)
Waiting games its not importan to much.

Do you all ready have some script who check all these gameplay options?

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:16 am
by chipv
qwert wrote:well if classic have to many games,then this map can check manualy, its will be good if all other maps can check automaticaly. :)
Waiting games its not importan to much.

Do you all ready have some script who check all these gameplay options?


Yes but it only does one map at a time , not all, so it's not very useful at comparison, so this is why
it is better to ask site.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:04 pm
by Qwert
Yes but it only does one map at a time , not all, so it's not very useful at comparison, so this is why
it is better to ask site.
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how you mean not usefull? if i check one map and script show all these parameters(finished,active, speed,double,triple,escalating,tournaments......) in one click,then this is great adition(will be even more great if he can check all maps in one click), now if i want to check all parameters,then i need to check manualy,one by one. Can you give me link to script?
these second not understand >it is better to ask site<

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:33 pm
by chipv
I haven't uploaded it. It is better if site does this because it will be faster.

Problem is you will have to manually check one by one. Classic will take too long also, maybe your browser cannot cope.
This will take a long long time to do manually with a script, more than 6 hours for one set of data!

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:46 pm
by Qwert
well, you understand these thing better then me, anyway, thanks for fast reply.
Maybe one day will find some beter solution ?

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:45 am
by 00iCon
I remember another website a short time ago(mid last year) which tracked the most popular maps and ranked the players on them.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:35 am
by Qwert
well i think that maybe site can arange map list,like these new scoreboard. where you can check many parameters.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:03 pm
by Qwert
i just think of yours >ask a site<, and i realised that these can be created similar like new Scoreboard, where you can search players by score,medal,rating.
Its possible to site create Map Scoreboard, where will mapscan be selected,with parameters like active,finished,double triple,tournaments, no cards, escalating........etc,etc.
But instead to give you bunch of game numbers,result be listed like for players in numbers? what you think of that?
its need i can give visual explanation.

Re: Maps statistic

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:49 pm
by chipv
Visual please, qwert.

Re: Maps statistic-visual example first post

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:42 am
by Qwert
by chipv ยป Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:49 pm

Visual please, qwert.

here you go ;)
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Re: Maps statistic-visual example first post

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:19 am
by chipv
Yes this is possible also. But it is still better if the site did it, what does the Foundry have to say about this?

Re: Maps statistic-visual example first post

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:07 am
by Qwert
by chipv on Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:19 pm
Yes this is possible also. But it is still better if the site did it, what does the Foundry have to say about this?
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If these possible,to site create these,then mine sugestion its in right place:). I dont know what foundry say, but if they have some ideas then they need to come here to post.
One thing will be good also,to Sugestion moderators also post here,to get more oppinions.
I belive if they manage to implement these idea into site,its will be great addition.

Re: Maps statistic-visual example first post

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:33 am
by Qwert
its will be good that Sugestion moderators give hes oppinion,its these idea its worth to be discused for stikied?

Re: Maps statistic-visual example first post

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:50 am
by Qwert
avgust 18,and now its 11 september- any reply from sugs moderators?

Re: Maps statistic-visual example first post

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:23 am
by TheForgivenOne
qwert wrote:its will be good that Sugestion moderators give hes oppinion,its these idea its worth to be discused for stikied?


I seems like a good idea, but you'll have to get more input from other users before we will sticky it.

Re: Maps statistic-visual example first post

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:20 pm
by Qwert
well its good that some of sugs moderator reply positive. Its hard to get more imput, because these is more tehnicaly question, and to get oppinion,you need to be tehnician like ChipV, to know its these possibile or not .
I only can say,that these adition will be good,and i realy dont know who will be against these. I have feel,that people think that these is good idea,but not post,because dont know what to say, because maybe dont know implementation process?

Re: Maps statistic-visual example first post

PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:11 am
by Qwert
i assume that people like these idea,and dont have nothing to add.