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Re: Fog-of-Player games ( © owenshooter)

Postby firth4eva on Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:44 pm

I'd say Fog of War is open to more abuse than this. Get your friend to join and you know where everyone is.
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Re: Fog-of-Player games ( © owenshooter)

Postby lord voldemort on Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:19 pm

i love it
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Re: Fog-of-Player games ( © owenshooter)

Postby DiM on Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:04 pm

i love the idea. of course at the end the players need to be made visible.
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Re: Fog-of-Player games ( © owenshooter)

Postby bbqpenguin on Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:16 pm

ok, so it's been brough up that there was potential for abuse and more cheating if this was implemented. i tried to think of some way this new method could be exploited any more than any other game, and i couldn't think of any. so, can anyone think of anyway this could bring more opportunities to cheat? that way, we can go ahead and try and think of ways to exploit this game type. go ahead and be devious, use that cheater's midn that i know you all have and have to struggle not to use ;) as things come up, i'll list them near the beginning of the thread along with possible solutions. also, if you can think of any other way to improve the idea, let me know and i'll tack that on too
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Re: Fog-of-Player games ( © owenshooter)

Postby bob3603 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:41 pm

bbqpenguin wrote:ok, so it's been brough up that there was potential for abuse and more cheating if this was implemented. i tried to think of some way this new method could be exploited any more than any other game, and i couldn't think of any. so, can anyone think of anyway this could bring more opportunities to cheat? that way, we can go ahead and try and think of ways to exploit this game type. go ahead and be devious, use that cheater's midn that i know you all have and have to struggle not to use ;) as things come up, i'll list them near the beginning of the thread along with possible solutions. also, if you can think of any other way to improve the idea, let me know and i'll tack that on too


In terminator games, points should be calculated at elimination, but not revealed until the end to everyone. Also players should be revealed at the end.
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Re: anonymous games, or "Fog-of-Player" games ( © owenshooter)

Postby bbqpenguin on Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:47 pm

ok anything else?
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Re: anonymous games, or "Fog-of-Player" games ( © owenshooter)

Postby rabbiton on Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:53 pm

bbqpenguin wrote:ok anything else?


i almost posted this idea myself once. another thing it helps with is issues or perceptions that can be passed from game to game - each game can be played on its own merits as it were. i think this could be a killer feature.
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Re: anonymous games, or "Fog-of-Player" games ( © owenshooter)

Postby gp24176281 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:21 pm

Regarding the idea,

I think it's a great option and I don't c any extra opening for abuse.

Moreover, I was playing with the same idea in my head regarding another subject - games with no politic. This option together with chat disabled will enable to create an enforceable "no politics" games. It will be a very grim game option - but than, sometimes u just feel like plying a pure game.

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Re: anonymous games, or "Fog-of-Player" games ( © owenshooter)

Postby Marfski on Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:20 pm

What a great idea!!! I put my vote in for it. I can see where it might be a temptation for a group of players who are colluding to play together but if everybody's identity was revealed at the end of the game I think the cheaters would be weeded out pretty quickly. CC has some pretty good hunters out there. If I lost a 6 or 8 player assassin, terminator, or standard game to a lower rank and we all started out even (blind) I would feel much less upset than losing to a lower rank because I felt like I was targeted because of rank. =D> =D>
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Re: anonymous games, or "Fog-of-Player" games ( © owenshooter)

Postby Timminz on Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:28 pm

gp24176281 wrote:Regarding the idea,

I think it's a great option and I don't c any extra opening for abuse.

Moreover, I was playing with the same idea in my head regarding another subject - games with no politic. This option together with chat disabled will enable to create an enforceable "no politics" games. It will be a very grim game option - but than, sometimes u just feel like plying a pure game.

my 2 cents
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Re: Fog-of-Player games ( © owenshooter)

Postby insomniacdude on Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:53 pm

bbqpenguin wrote:ok, so it's been brough up that there was potential for abuse and more cheating if this was implemented. i tried to think of some way this new method could be exploited any more than any other game, and i couldn't think of any. so, can anyone think of anyway this could bring more opportunities to cheat? that way, we can go ahead and try and think of ways to exploit this game type. go ahead and be devious, use that cheater's midn that i know you all have and have to struggle not to use ;) as things come up, i'll list them near the beginning of the thread along with possible solutions. also, if you can think of any other way to improve the idea, let me know and i'll tack that on too


It is just as easy to abuse in the game itself, but it would take longer to get caught. People wouldn't be able to look up common games between any two players until at least after the game ended...and if they are a really "good" multi, it will take even longer than that to determine in what games they've been cheating.

I think people will think it's easier to cheat (which it really isn't) with the idea, so more people will probably do it. As long as the staff and the observant members of the site stay on the ball, things shouldn't be a problem. I'd be in support of the option being available for all game types.

Another possibility is to list the names of those playing the game, but not to reveal which color as which they are playing. Multis and cheaters would be a bit easier to bust. There would still be a problem of some ranks avoiding the game due to other ranks, but the targeting that occurs in Terminator games still won't happen. :-k
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Re: anonymous games, or "Fog-of-Player" games ( © owenshooter)

Postby imperialord on Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:56 pm

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Re: anonymous games, or "Fog-of-Player" games ( © owenshooter)

Postby bbqpenguin on Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:38 am

gp24176281 wrote:Regarding the idea,

I think it's a great option and I don't c any extra opening for abuse.

Moreover, I was playing with the same idea in my head regarding another subject - games with no politic. This option together with chat disabled will enable to create an enforceable "no politics" games. It will be a very grim game option - but than, sometimes u just feel like plying a pure game.

my 2 cents
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this is a very interesting idea and if you were willing to start your own idea thread i would be more than willing to offer my input and support
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Postby Ditocoaf on Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:53 am

I say a poll should be made in this idea's honor, so everyone can see the overwhelming support behind it.
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Re: anonymous games, or "Fog-of-Player" games ( © owenshooter)

Postby bbqpenguin on Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:09 am

Ditocoaf wrote:I say a poll should be made in this idea's honor, so everyone can see the overwhelming support behind it.


done my friend, it's a 3 day long poll
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