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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby yeti_c on Thu May 08, 2008 5:47 am

bbqpenguin wrote:
greenoaks wrote:it would be easy to tell if you were playing owenshooter, he ends everything with an -o



well that could be part of the game.... he could choose to omit the -o.... or someone else could use it to make people "think" they're owens... though i dunno why you would ever wanna do that. you could even have multiple people claiming to be the same person, which would bring up one of those cartoon-like situations where you have to shoot someone and you don't know which one is the imposter. this is already done in regular fow games, where a player can call out another's position to others... of course, he might be lying... or he might not, you never know.


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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby Herakilla on Thu May 08, 2008 7:44 am

yeti_c wrote:
bbqpenguin wrote:
greenoaks wrote:it would be easy to tell if you were playing owenshooter, he ends everything with an -o



well that could be part of the game.... he could choose to omit the -o.... or someone else could use it to make people "think" they're owens... though i dunno why you would ever wanna do that. you could even have multiple people claiming to be the same person, which would bring up one of those cartoon-like situations where you have to shoot someone and you don't know which one is the imposter. this is already done in regular fow games, where a player can call out another's position to others... of course, he might be lying... or he might not, you never know.


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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby Timminz on Thu May 08, 2008 8:08 am

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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby bbqpenguin on Thu May 08, 2008 9:02 pm

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Fog of Player.

Postby Mr_Adams on Fri May 01, 2009 9:50 pm

Now, I thought this had been suggested, but I couldn't find it.

No player names during singles games(optional) especialy terminator
    Players should show up as :
      ???
      ???
      ???
      ect.


This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Will eliminate the targeting of high ranked players in terminator games. could be turned off for high ranks who think it will provide more of a chalenge
  • Only reasonably applicable if a system is set up to tell you before you accidently join the game of a foe.
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Re: Fog of Player.

Postby sailorseal on Fri May 01, 2009 9:51 pm

I like the idea
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Re: Fog of Player.

Postby tdans on Fri May 01, 2009 9:53 pm

i agree .. would make playing terminators much more fun
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Re: Fog of Player.

Postby MoB Deadly on Sat May 02, 2009 12:34 am

oooo, good idea
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Re: Fog of Player.

Postby cicero on Sat May 02, 2009 2:38 am

Mr_Adams wrote:Now, I thought this had been suggested, but I couldn't find it.
Found it for you.

Duplicate suggestion merged.
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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby Incandenza on Sat May 02, 2009 2:45 am

This was also suggested in some form by dugcarr a billion years ago. Terrific idea, I can't see why it at least wasn't left to molder on the to-do list.
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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat May 02, 2009 4:01 pm

this sounds like a cool idea
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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby squishyg on Mon May 04, 2009 1:58 pm

Fun idea, I would play that.

Only potential issue I see-What about people on shared computers? Might you accidentally join a game with a roommate or family member and then be accused of being a multi?
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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby Mr_Adams on Tue May 05, 2009 11:10 pm

no more comments? is it just so simple that nobody has anything to add?

oh well! Guess that means this moves to the top of the list Lack!
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Re: anonymous, or "Fog-of-Player" games (©owenshooter) [POLL!]

Postby squishyg on Wed May 06, 2009 12:35 pm

Well, we are simple people.
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"Blindfold" Option

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:00 am

Game is joined, starts and is played anonymously. The only time you find out who you were playing against is after the game is over

Specifics/Details:

-Players would be listed as Player1, Player2, Player3, etc., respective to when they joined.
-There would be no way to tell which player was which until the game was completely over.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

Would be a fun way to play a game with a group of players and no one would know rank/identity so there would be no prejudice during the game against higher ranked players, people you don't like, new recruits, friends etc..
I feel this would add an extra element to games in that you could not assume anything about any of the other players since it would be completely anonymous. I'm sure there are holes in this idea since I haven't tried to find any and just thought of it but I feel it is at least worth investigating?
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby Extreme Ways on Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:42 am

Funkyterrance wrote:Game is joined, starts and is played anonymously. The only time you find out who you were playing against is after the game is over

Specifics/Details:

-Players would be listed as Player1, Player2, Player3, etc., respective to when they joined.
-There would be no way to tell which player was which until the game was completely over.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

Would be a fun way to play a game with a group of players and no one would know rank/identity so there would be no prejudice during the game against higher ranked players, people you don't like, new recruits, friends etc..
I feel this would add an extra element to games in that you could not assume anything about any of the other players since it would be completely anonymous. I'm sure there are holes in this idea since I haven't tried to find any and just thought of it but I feel it is at least worth investigating?

I like it, but I don't think it needs to be implemented. As a higher ranked player (mostly Major+) you are often targeted by others especially in terminator.

How would it be shown in the game chat? Player 1 wrote ...?
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby Hellfire Hotties on Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:53 am

Are you suggesting that this be an option when starting a game- such as "Fog", "Trench", etc.? Or are you proposing a blindfold tourney scenario? I like the idea, and think it could be an interesting thing to at least try. :)
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:07 am

Extreme Ways wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Game is joined, starts and is played anonymously. The only time you find out who you were playing against is after the game is over

Specifics/Details:

-Players would be listed as Player1, Player2, Player3, etc., respective to when they joined.
-There would be no way to tell which player was which until the game was completely over.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

Would be a fun way to play a game with a group of players and no one would know rank/identity so there would be no prejudice during the game against higher ranked players, people you don't like, new recruits, friends etc..
I feel this would add an extra element to games in that you could not assume anything about any of the other players since it would be completely anonymous. I'm sure there are holes in this idea since I haven't tried to find any and just thought of it but I feel it is at least worth investigating?

I like it, but I don't think it needs to be implemented. As a higher ranked player (mostly Major+) you are often targeted by others especially in terminator.

How would it be shown in the game chat? Player 1 wrote ...?


Yes, this is how I imagined the chat would be displayed.
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:08 am

Hellfire Hotties wrote:Are you suggesting that this be an option when starting a game- such as "Fog", "Trench", etc.? Or are you proposing a blindfold tourney scenario? I like the idea, and think it could be an interesting thing to at least try. :)


I suppose a tourney could be arranged with all games having this option checked but yes, I envisioned it being an option such as "Fog" and "Trench".
Thanks for expanding on the idea. ;)
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby greenoaks on Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:46 am

how would this work with the Foe List ?
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:27 am

well, if you try to avoid cooks and to lose 100 points it's a problem... but then i suppose you don't join those kind of games. Otherwise it's true that the higher you're ranked the more it's a pain to play terminator, on the other hand the lower you are ranked, the more a higher ranked player with no chance to win will try to favour the other higher ranked players to lose a minimum of points..
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby MoB Deadly on Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:27 am

Just some potential pitfalls:

Hard for medal hunters, can't use maprank to see if they got the medal from that opponent already
hard for people looking to play team games solo, less people, will join for the risk of joining with a cook or someone with a trolol rating

Not that I dislike your suggestion, but I think the "matchmaking" suggestion has a lot more potential, and I think once the game starts, I don't think their should be any anonymity
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:42 pm

Ok, here goes guys..

greenoaks wrote:how would this work with the Foe List ?


This is a good point. I was thinking that if you were foes with anyone in that particular game, you would not be able to play. However, what if you were already in the game and someone who you had foed wanted to join right? I would think that the only fair way would be that you were kicked from that game. The good thing is that no-one could follow you around joining your games to get you kicked because it would be anonymous. :) After a game was finished you could of course foe the appropriate player accordingly if you so wished.

betiko wrote:well, if you try to avoid cooks and to lose 100 points it's a problem... but then i suppose you don't join those kind of games. Otherwise it's true that the higher you're ranked the more it's a pain to play terminator, on the other hand the lower you are ranked, the more a higher ranked player with no chance to win will try to favour the other higher ranked players to lose a minimum of points..


I'm pretty sure you answered your own question on this aspect betiko, but If not, let me know. You did hit the nail on the head on your last sentence though regarding the potential benefit of one of these types of games.

MoB Deadly wrote:Just some potential pitfalls:

Hard for medal hunters, can't use maprank to see if they got the medal from that opponent already
hard for people looking to play team games solo, less people, will join for the risk of joining with a cook or someone with a trolol rating

Not that I dislike your suggestion, but I think the "matchmaking" suggestion has a lot more potential, and I think once the game starts, I don't think their should be any anonymity


I can see your points MoB. I think we can refer back to betiko's response on this, however, in that if this setting would spoil the fun for you since you are looking for medals, it would just not be an option you would end up using until you had the medals you wanted.

I had this setting in mind mainly for a different feel to a game where inhibitions created by rank and history would be out of the picture. As HH suggested it would make for a very interesting tournament, just as long as nobody leaked who was who which I imagine would of course happen from time to time. The unveiling at the end would have the potential to be very exciting. Even guessing who was who could add spice to the games.
I like the idea of erasing the dynamics within a game that make people play differently than they would if they knew nothing about whomever with they are playing with. ;)
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby greenoaks on Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:18 pm

will the creator of the game be able to determine whether the blindfold remains for the entire game or is lifted after 5, 10, 20 or 50 rounds.
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Re: "Blindfold" Option

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:45 pm

greenoaks wrote:will the creator of the game be able to determine whether the blindfold remains for the entire game or is lifted after 5, 10, 20 or 50 rounds.


To be honest I didn't even consider lifting the "blindfolds" until the end of the game but If more people would want there to be an option of a round limit I don't see why not. I imagine it would just equate to more programming but I by no means object to it from a gameplay standpoint. I personally like the idea of an "unveiling" only once the winning players are determined but having the option you suggested would create even more possibilities.
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