12 hour lock-out

[thehippo8]

Concise description: Lock

• -out players from making false starts in the 12-hour get a snap-shot period.

Specifics/Details:

• Rather than have players accidentally move in the first 12 hours of a 24 hour period where they would default the game for premature move by stopping the opponents from being able to take a snap-shot - how about in such clan tournaments there be an option to stop people from being able to move in that 12 hours period? Anti-idiot device.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

• Mid clan tournament this issue has arisen. It is understood that automatic snap-shots are not available because players have to log on and take the snap-shot. But there are instances where games are forfeit for premature moves where it is idiot error rather than anything else. If there was an option (to be ticked) which stopped players from doing that (such as the servor error which pops up when you try and start a Battle Royale game when you've already joined one in the last month) then this issue would go away. Not sure how serious an issue this is but I can see it ruining otherwise good competition when someone is tired, travelling, limited connection or otherwise makes this error. Thoughts?

[blakebowling]

It doesn't make sense to implement this as an option in the game. It would make much more sense to simply implement snapshots in-game, Store one when the game starts (from each player's perspective) and make it available to that player.

[Pedronicus]

It doesn't make sense to implement this as an option in the game. It would make much more sense to simply implement snapshots in-game, Store one when the game starts (from each player's perspective) and make it available to that player.

you know, it really would be helpful if a few more admin actually played some decent level clan games so they understood the importance of what we are requesting.

[agentcom]

It doesn't make sense to implement this as an option in the game. It would make much more sense to simply implement snapshots in-game, Store one when the game starts (from each player's perspective) and make it available to that player.

you know, it really would be helpful if a few more admin actually played some decent level clan games so they understood the importance of what we are requesting.

Oh boy, first of all, some version of a 12-hour snap period has been suggested before, but the OP is just about clans so ...

First off and in response to the quote above, there's a fair share of clan representation among the moderators--maybe even "decent level" clan representation. Maybe not in the admin, though, if you were intentionally making that distinction.

Second, the best work-around that I've seen for this (as long as you're just talking about clan wars ... and also applies to tourneys) is to put "FOG RULE" or something similar in the game title. Talk to your clan leaders about getting this done.

Third, why should this just be incorporated for clan wars? If someone takes the time to develop it as a site feature, then I think it should be available to all players starting a game. The only downside of a 12-hour snap period would be to freemiums who want to play quickly. So maybe you only make it an option rather than a standard feature of fog games.

[sirgermaine]

Of course, the site as a whole is hypothetically designed such that a player who logs on once a day won't ever miss anything, so it would really make more sense to have a 24-hour waiting period, just to be consistent with the 24-hour turns. It would presumably be a turn 0 like with manual troops. I would agree there is no reason to limit this to clan games.

[jghost7]

Of course, the site as a whole is hypothetically designed such that a player who logs on once a day won't ever miss anything, so it would really make more sense to have a 24-hour waiting period, just to be consistent with the 24-hour turns. It would presumably be a turn 0 like with manual troops. I would agree there is no reason to limit this to clan games.

This.

So, maybe instead of adding a full turn of dead time, you could start at -12 hrs. So, game initializes at 6pm today, and the 24 hr timer would begin at 6am tomorrow.

I don't think the starting player should be only allowed to use 12 hrs on their turn if something like this is implemented.

I do think that blake is right though, an auto snap probably would best and easiest.

Thanks,

J

[agentcom]

Of course, the site as a whole is hypothetically designed such that a player who logs on once a day won't ever miss anything, so it would really make more sense to have a 24-hour waiting period, just to be consistent with the 24-hour turns. It would presumably be a turn 0 like with manual troops. I would agree there is no reason to limit this to clan games.

Presumably jghost was saying "This." to the blue part, which I also agree with, but I thought the red part was a good point. Never thought about that before.

[jghost7]

Of course, the site as a whole is hypothetically designed such that a player who logs on once a day won't ever miss anything, so it would really make more sense to have a 24-hour waiting period, just to be consistent with the 24-hour turns. It would presumably be a turn 0 like with manual troops. I would agree there is no reason to limit this to clan games.

Presumably jghost was saying "This." to the blue part, which I also agree with, but I thought the red part was a good point. Never thought about that before.

Fixed.

He has a valid point here. What I suggested did not contradict his point, but just showed an alternative solution. I used a 36 hr variant rather than his 48 hr version, but they are both consistent with the first player having a full 24 hrs to play the turn.

Thanks,

J

[chapcrap]

It has been suggested before that players have 24 hours to see the map and you must start and end a turn to complete the 24 hours. It would be like the beginning of a manual game where everyone has a 24 hour period to deploy troops. Everyone would have a 24 hour period to take a snap shot or see the map or do whatever they want to do.

I think that is the best solution. Not to just give 24 hours, but make it part of a turn, like on manual games.

[thehippo8]

It has been suggested before that players have 24 hours to see the map and you must start and end a turn to complete the 24 hours. It would be like the beginning of a manual game where everyone has a 24 hour period to deploy troops. Everyone would have a 24 hour period to take a snap shot or see the map or do whatever they want to do.

I think that is the best solution. Not to just give 24 hours, but make it part of a turn, like on manual games.

Perhaps this can be be implemented by having a tournament box to click on the creation of a game?

[72o]

Maybe we can create a script in the interim to help with this?

viewtopic.php?f=528&t=180372&start=0

[hiitsmestevie1]

fog.courtesy.waiting.option
i.cant.find.this.topic,though.i,.recall.it.being.mentioned
ohh..sorry.space.bar.is.broken.
anyhow...


when.making.a.fog.game.i.think.there.could.be.an.option.of.waiting.before.first.turn..
giving.the.2nd.player/team.the.option.to.see.map.before.game..
also.this.prevents.players.from.not.knowing.if.the.other.team.plans.to.play.by.that.rule.
those.who.dont.want.the.option.can.still.play.with.out.it...but.those.who.would.like.others.to.wait..would.create.a.game.with.the.waiting.option..

[chapcrap]

Space bar broken?

This has been suggested before, multiple times.

[Vid_FISO]

The auto-snap idea is better, no reason then to wait and potentially risk missing your own move as does happen when life/ internet connection get in the way/ let you down.