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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby hecter on Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:14 pm

If this were an option I'd get into team games again... I played them a bunch when I first joined but had to stop because I didn't want to play with the same team over and over, but I also didn't want to get my ass kicked over and over by people who have their own team and such.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby owenshooter on Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:42 pm

hecter wrote:If this were an option I'd get into team games again... I played them a bunch when I first joined but had to stop because I didn't want to play with the same team over and over, but I also didn't want to get my ass kicked over and over by people who have their own team and such.

oh... you weren't on a good team, and instead of getting better, by playing over and over together, you simply blame the teams that were better for your less than stellar team career? um, ok... the black jesus is perplexed...-0

p.s.-there is nothing "rigged" about setting up a public game that anyone can join.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby para on Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:16 pm

how bout this

public games with purposeful teams must be joined as teams

if someone who has a team wants to join a game, when they join, it will have the player enter what who they're teamates are so they can join. their teammates recieve notification for the games they're teammates have signed up for and then they can then finish(or continue if they are not the last of a triple or quad) the joining process as long as another team hasnt beaten them to it.

the only flaw i see with it is that freemiums who cant afford to sign up for alot of games and have to wait on there teammates might never get into thier games. this could be fixed however by them being allowed to start the joining process for many several games as long as the the number of games they finished joining didnt go over there alloted amount. (there teammates dont have to join all the games that they given the opportunity for)

this is beneficial for players who both care and dont care who they're teammates are. the competitive high ranks will now be able to more easily challenge themselves without having to seek people out(if they dont want to) and players who dont have a team but still like team games can get a better experience with random teams.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby tubaman on Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:18 pm

You know the suggestion is bad if it says please in the title of the thread...


p.s.-there is nothing "rigged" about setting up a public game that anyone can join.


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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby The Neon Peon on Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:51 pm

If they were randomized in all games, then that would be horrible. Why should I have to play with some player who does not know how to play and has a 50% turn ratio than with my friends? Most of the time, people want to play with people they know.

If this were optional, then you lose all solvency. The games for farming would still be up there, what is stopping them? Someone will still join.

Good as an option, I like it. But just letting you know that there is no solvency for farming.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby hecter on Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:52 pm

owenshooter wrote:
hecter wrote:If this were an option I'd get into team games again... I played them a bunch when I first joined but had to stop because I didn't want to play with the same team over and over, but I also didn't want to get my ass kicked over and over by people who have their own team and such.

oh... you weren't on a good team, and instead of getting better, by playing over and over together, you simply blame the teams that were better for your less than stellar team career? um, ok... the black jesus is perplexed...-0

I explained quite clearly what I meant. I wasn't on a "good team" because I was never on the same team, which is the way I like it. I didn't blame anybody, I just didn't like the way the current system was, so I stopped using it. It's pretty simple, actually...
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby laci_mae on Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:54 am

para wrote:how bout this

public games with purposeful teams must be joined as teams

if someone who has a team wants to join a game, when they join, it will have the player enter what who they're teamates are so they can join. their teammates recieve notification for the games they're teammates have signed up for and then they can then finish(or continue if they are not the last of a triple or quad) the joining process as long as another team hasnt beaten them to it.

the only flaw i see with it is that freemiums who cant afford to sign up for alot of games and have to wait on there teammates might never get into thier games. this could be fixed however by them being allowed to start the joining process for many several games as long as the the number of games they finished joining didnt go over there alloted amount. (there teammates dont have to join all the games that they given the opportunity for)

this is beneficial for players who both care and dont care who they're teammates are. the competitive high ranks will now be able to more easily challenge themselves without having to seek people out(if they dont want to) and players who dont have a team but still like team games can get a better experience with random teams.


I really like something along the lines of this idea. =D>

I am a mid-level player who has friends much higher ranked. I could pull them into team games, but we typically just stick to tourneys b/c joining public games is too risky. If I wanted to play one of these team games that's already top-loaded with high-powered players, I would risk some or all of my cohort not getting their "please join" messages before some random ppl jumped in. An option that allowed an individual to take on all the spots of a team (for a limited time) would be very welcome.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby RADAGA on Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:05 am

I joined by mistake 2 team games (by forgetting to check the "Standard, terminator" boxes, due to the new gamefinder layout.

Both of them have high level paying members as the top team, and at the most cadets in the lower end team. I guess either the more favored players do not join just arrangement, or they get kicked by the game author, until they have a perfectly balanced colonel vs cooks game

I am banging my head on the wall for having to stick with those 2 games.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby Jeff Hardy on Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:12 am

i like the original idea but it would have to be an option

why stop friends playing on the same team just because they are better than you and your mates? if they wanted to team up with you they would ask

if it were an option however people could set up games in the hope to learn new players without getting pwned by a good team that know each other
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby Artimis on Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:23 am

I have a couple of players that I like to team up with, this would make a useful option for those who want more excitement in their games, but only as an option and not a replacement of the current team arrangements in team games.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby Keebs2674 on Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:22 pm

blakebowling wrote:I don't think that teams should be randomized in all games, but I do think it would be a good option. I know it'd be interesting, I'd try it.


I, too, like the idea of making it an option. I don't play team games specifically because it seems like two players who play together all the time (often on the same board over and over again) start the game and everyone else who joins, including me, is given a random partner who may or may not be experienced, a good teammate, a question mark, a deadbeat, etc. If this made an option I'd definitely try more team games.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby Keebs2674 on Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:25 pm

laci_mae wrote:...but we typically just stick to tourneys b/c joining public games is too risky.


What's risky about joining a public game?
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby wannaseemytreat on Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:17 pm

what a great idea. this absolutely takes away any notion of collusion. why not randomise the whole process
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby owenshooter on Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:23 pm

wannaseemytreat wrote:what a great idea. this absolutely takes away any notion of collusion. why not randomise the whole process

huh? collusion in a TEAM GAME? what are you going on about? oh my... was this uber-sarcasm? the black jesus is thoroughly confused...-0
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby para on Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:24 pm

hmm, do people like the additional sugestion i made to making this an option?
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby blakebowling on Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:10 am

para wrote:hmm, do people like the additional sugestion i made to making this an option?

I can't see it being made as anything but an option.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby para on Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:01 pm

making it a requirement only eliminates the ability for an already organized team to create a game where random people will be thier opponents?


is that something you want?
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby RADAGA on Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:20 pm

2009-01-12 11:57:35 - RADAGA: DAMN! joined another team game without really wanting...
2009-01-12 11:58:08 - RADAGA: And, of course, another rigged one....
2009-01-13 14:48:22 - L M S: how can it be rigged, you joined and last at that..... quit whining
2009-01-13 15:00:53 - RADAGA: Rigged ... you 3 joined together, making a team already fine tuned. And I bet you have been kicking anyone with 2 or more stripes until you have a low rank team to deal with. Dont play lamb when being a wolf.
2009-01-14 14:42:03 - L M S: we didnt join together
2009-01-15 11:14:37 - RADAGA: Worse. then he kicked every one who did not matched his perfect standards, and then kicked afterwards anywone that he perceived as good enough.


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This proves people are rigging the game. They are not friends, so the guy who made the game probably kicked whoever he perceived as "not good enough" on his side and then kicked whoever he perceives as "way too good" on the other side.

For one person to have such power, to have the ultimate call on who joins which side, while the others have to simply folow his choices is blatantly biased towards the game creator.

The game have 1 captain and 2 lieutenants (paying) against a private (paying) a cook (fremium) and a cadet (me)

Since LMS (one of the lt) claimed they were not together, how can this arrangement happen? DOnt insult our intelligence and say it was coincidence.

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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby Timminz on Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:42 pm

RADAGA wrote:Selective player kicking detected.


There's your problem. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about. Where did you get the idea that anyone can kick players from a game?
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby owenshooter on Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:29 pm

RADAGA wrote:This proves people are rigging the game. They are not friends, so the guy who made the game probably kicked whoever he perceived as "not good enough" on his side and then kicked whoever he perceives as "way too good" on the other side.

For one person to have such power, to have the ultimate call on who joins which side, while the others have to simply folow his choices is blatantly biased towards the game creator.

Selective player kicking detected.

yeah, just imagine if this were ACTUALLY POSSIBLE. this is simply not true, but nice try... person who doesn't know how games work detected. the black jesus has spoken.-0
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby hecter on Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:26 pm

What they're trying to say is that you can't kick people from your games. No matter what. Ever. It's simply not possible.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby TheBro on Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:10 pm

Team 1

1 high ranked started the game.

2 other high ranks individually decided that they would like to play with this(these) high rank(s) because they assume one with a higher rank has more skill.

Team 2

Private joins game. Likes the map, settings, wants to win points?
Cook joins game. Cooks usually aren't worried about their score.
You join game. I have no idea why, looking to try to get a lot of points if you win, and lose little if you don't?

I'm not sure how something can be 'rigged' if you were able to look at the game, see who your partners would be, and still choose to join it! Come on!

Randomizing the teams would be... interesting?.... I'd never use it.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby denominator on Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:19 pm

I could see this being an interesting option, but not something static. I think the number of team games played would increase dramatically, as, in my experience, the only team games being played now are generally tournament games or those started with a team already in place.

I agree that these team games are clogging up the "Join A Game" section as there are simply so many quad games up that they can never fill quickly.

Those people who don't have a set team could then join a "random team" game, in which all the players are randomly assigned so they aren't joining a game with 3 random people against a well oiled machine.

Definitely don't take away the current settings, but adding this as an option could be very beneficial.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby Silent Hysteria on Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:42 am

I think that you should only be able to join games with people of a similar rank. The better you do and more points you earn the better players you can play. simple fix. like 2 ranks in either direction of your rank.
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Re: Randomize team partners, please!

Postby obliterationX on Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:21 pm

Sorry, I'd rather be having fun and playing my turns with my real-life friends, rather than being stuck with a clueless, ignorant chef. ;) Not a great idea in my opinion, and at the very most, it should be an option. The only use I can see for this is for inner-clan practice games.
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