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Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby Little Witt on Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:09 pm

Concise description:
  • The ability to divide the twelve months of premium bought by a person among a certain amount of players.

Specifics/Details:
  • Player X would buy twelve months of premium and would have the chose to gift a certain amount of months of premium to another player(s) while keeping the rest for him/herself to enjoy. In order for the player being gifted a few months of premium s/he must have completed a certain amount of games and had a clear C/A record. This I think will lower any abuse that might arise/list]

    How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
    • This will allow players to gift membership to other players while still receiving their membership and I think will keep players in CC. This would let players split a years worth of premium with his friends so that they may all have a taste of premium membership and possibly buy their own full year of premium membership.

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Re: Splitting premium between given amount of people

Postby greenoaks on Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:42 pm

Little Witt wrote:Concise description:
  • The ability to divide the twelve months of premium bought by a person among a certain amount of players.

Specifics/Details:
  • Player X would buy twelve months of premium and would have the chose to gift a certain amount of months of premium to another player(s) while keeping the rest for him/herself to enjoy. In order for the player being gifted a few months of premium s/he must have completed a certain amount of games and had a clear C/A record. This I think will lower any abuse that might arise/list]

    How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
    • This will allow players to gift membership to other players while still receiving their membership and I think will keep players in CC. This would let players split a years worth of premium with his friends so that they may all have a taste of premium membership and possibly buy their own full year of premium membership.

we already have this option.

if you purchase 24 months you can split it with 1 other and if you pay for 36 months it can be split evenly with 2 others.
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Postby Little Witt on Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:31 am

greenoaks wrote:
Little Witt wrote:Concise description:
  • The ability to divide the twelve months of premium bought by a person among a certain amount of players.

Specifics/Details:
  • Player X would buy twelve months of premium and would have the chose to gift a certain amount of months of premium to another player(s) while keeping the rest for him/herself to enjoy. In order for the player being gifted a few months of premium s/he must have completed a certain amount of games and had a clear C/A record. This I think will lower any abuse that might arise/list]

    How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
    • This will allow players to gift membership to other players while still receiving their membership and I think will keep players in CC. This would let players split a years worth of premium with his friends so that they may all have a taste of premium membership and possibly buy their own full year of premium membership.

we already have this option.

if you purchase 24 months you can split it with 1 other and if you pay for 36 months it can be split evenly with 2 others.


Oh, I posted a question about his in the Q/A forum and I was told by many people there was no such option. No one told me ever that there was. Ok, thanks
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Re: Splitting premium between given amount of people

Postby blakebowling on Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:58 am

greenoaks wrote:
Little Witt wrote:Concise description:
  • The ability to divide the twelve months of premium bought by a person among a certain amount of players.

Specifics/Details:
  • Player X would buy twelve months of premium and would have the chose to gift a certain amount of months of premium to another player(s) while keeping the rest for him/herself to enjoy. In order for the player being gifted a few months of premium s/he must have completed a certain amount of games and had a clear C/A record. This I think will lower any abuse that might arise/list]

    How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
    • This will allow players to gift membership to other players while still receiving their membership and I think will keep players in CC. This would let players split a years worth of premium with his friends so that they may all have a taste of premium membership and possibly buy their own full year of premium membership.

we already have this option.

if you purchase 24 months you can split it with 1 other and if you pay for 36 months it can be split evenly with 2 others.

False. There is no way to split a premium membership between multiple accounts.
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Re: Splitting premium between given amount of people

Postby greenoaks on Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:04 pm

blakebowling wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
Little Witt wrote:Concise description:
  • The ability to divide the twelve months of premium bought by a person among a certain amount of players.

Specifics/Details:
  • Player X would buy twelve months of premium and would have the chose to gift a certain amount of months of premium to another player(s) while keeping the rest for him/herself to enjoy. In order for the player being gifted a few months of premium s/he must have completed a certain amount of games and had a clear C/A record. This I think will lower any abuse that might arise/list]

    How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
    • This will allow players to gift membership to other players while still receiving their membership and I think will keep players in CC. This would let players split a years worth of premium with his friends so that they may all have a taste of premium membership and possibly buy their own full year of premium membership.

we already have this option.

if you purchase 24 months you can split it with 1 other and if you pay for 36 months it can be split evenly with 2 others.

False. There is no way to split a premium membership between multiple accounts.

False, reread my comment.
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Re: Splitting premium between given amount of people

Postby blakebowling on Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:05 pm

greenoaks wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
Little Witt wrote:Concise description:
  • The ability to divide the twelve months of premium bought by a person among a certain amount of players.

Specifics/Details:
  • Player X would buy twelve months of premium and would have the chose to gift a certain amount of months of premium to another player(s) while keeping the rest for him/herself to enjoy. In order for the player being gifted a few months of premium s/he must have completed a certain amount of games and had a clear C/A record. This I think will lower any abuse that might arise/list]

    How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
    • This will allow players to gift membership to other players while still receiving their membership and I think will keep players in CC. This would let players split a years worth of premium with his friends so that they may all have a taste of premium membership and possibly buy their own full year of premium membership.

we already have this option.

if you purchase 24 months you can split it with 1 other and if you pay for 36 months it can be split evenly with 2 others.

False. There is no way to split a premium membership between multiple accounts.

False, reread my comment.

The OP is asking to split one membership between multiple accounts. Your answer (while technically correct) is telling him to buy one membership for each account, however it makes it seem that he can split up the time.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby Little Witt on Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:57 pm

I'm asking for an option to buy a 1yr premium membership and be able to split it with two players...e.g. my brotherand I
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby greenoaks on Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:11 am

Little Witt wrote:I'm asking for an option to buy a 1yr premium membership and be able to split it with two players...e.g. my brotherand I

we know

if you want to share membership with your brother all you need to do is purchase 24 months
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:25 am

greenoaks wrote:
Little Witt wrote:I'm asking for an option to buy a 1yr premium membership and be able to split it with two players...e.g. my brotherand I

we know

if you want to share membership with your brother all you need to do is purchase 24 months

But what you are asking, no you cannot buy one year and split that. You need to buy 1 year each.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby Little Witt on Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:27 am

All it would be is... Player buys premium, option when buying is to give some of it to another player. No more than 6 months, no less than 1 month. Nothing to hard to put in.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:50 am

Little Witt wrote:All it would be is... Player buys premium, option when buying is to give some of it to another player. No more than 6 months, no less than 1 month. Nothing to hard to put in.

But you then run the risk of mistakes happening. Say you wanted to give 6 months to me ;) but you accentually gave it to chapcrap :( , I end up with no premium, you end up with having to send an e ticket and the admins need to sort the problem out. And before you say that would never happen, it will, more mistakes happen like this. Admins have enough to do without having to try and sort little things like this out. And what to say to chapcrap when his disappears after joining a 100 games. So many ways to abuse this, it will never happen.

On another note, why not spend the 50$ for two premiums? What is so expensive about that. Christmas is coming, put it on your Santa list. :mrgreen:
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby chapcrap on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:09 am

koontz1973 wrote:
Little Witt wrote:All it would be is... Player buys premium, option when buying is to give some of it to another player. No more than 6 months, no less than 1 month. Nothing to hard to put in.

But you then run the risk of mistakes happening. Say you wanted to give 6 months to me ;) but you accentually gave it to chapcrap :( , I end up with no premium, you end up with having to send an e ticket and the admins need to sort the problem out. And before you say that would never happen, it will, more mistakes happen like this. Admins have enough to do without having to try and sort little things like this out. And what to say to chapcrap when his disappears after joining a 100 games. So many ways to abuse this, it will never happen.

On another note, why not spend the 50$ for two premiums? What is so expensive about that. Christmas is coming, put it on your Santa list. :mrgreen:

First of all, yay premium!!!!

Secondly, I don't think that's good logic to not do this suggestion. However, I don't think splitting a year will be something that is allowed. However, I think that being able to buy premium in smaller chunks at a more expensive rate should be looked at.

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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby greenoaks on Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:21 pm

the problem with buying in smaller chunks is game loading.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby chapcrap on Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:52 pm

greenoaks wrote:the problem with buying in smaller chunks is game loading.

That may be true, but with a price increase, the game loading wouldn't really save anyone much money. I would not offer anything below 3 months. I may try something like:

  • 3 months for $10
  • 6 months for $18
  • 12 months for $30
  • 24 months for $50
  • 5 years for $100

A little price increase for the normal year, but I think that's reasonable after more than 6 years. Not only that, the smaller chunks should bring more money.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby greenoaks on Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:36 pm

3 months for $10

at the end of the 3 months, join a ton of games. stay freemium for 3 months.
buy another 3 months, at the end of that 3 mths join a ton of games again.


at the 12 month anniversay CC has made $20 yet yearly membership is $25 and $30 under your pricing.


in short, CC loses.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby chapcrap on Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:42 pm

greenoaks wrote:3 months for $10

at the end of the 3 months, join a ton of games. stay freemium for 3 months.
buy another 3 months, at the end of that 3 mths join a ton of games again.


at the 12 month anniversay CC has made $20 yet yearly membership is $25 and $30 under your pricing.


in short, CC loses.

I don't have games that last 3 months. I don't know what time is like where you live, but even my slowest games usually only last 5 or 6 weeks unless it's a dead locked game or something. I mean, I agree with you that something like that could happen. But, if it did, I don't think people are going to wait 3 months to get premium again. My guess is a week or two.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby greenoaks on Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:57 pm

for you and i perhaps but we are prepared to pay to be here.

i just feel that those who already bludge off the rest of us are more likely to find a way to minimise what they pay by doing something like what i described.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby Evil Semp on Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:52 pm

chapcrap wrote:
greenoaks wrote:the problem with buying in smaller chunks is game loading.

That may be true, but with a price increase, the game loading wouldn't really save anyone much money. I would not offer anything below 3 months. I may try something like:

  • 3 months for $10
  • 6 months for $18
  • 12 months for $30
  • 24 months for $50
  • 5 years for $100

A little price increase for the normal year, but I think that's reasonable after more than 6 years. Not only that, the smaller chunks should bring more money.


I think if you increased the first two on the list to $12.50 and $20.00 that would pretty much eliminate the advantage of loading up on games after the three month or six month premium expires.

The real problem with the lower length of times and rates would be the cost. Credit cards cost the merchant money to process. They usually pay a percentage of the amount being paid and a transaction fee. Being on the internet the fees are probably higher because there is more fraud. Also if the payments go to another country there are probably fees for currency conversion.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:44 pm

I think the real idea is to simply increase the value of Premium Membership, by adding more perks and features, something I was always pushing for. Then when you gift someone a premium, and re-up yourself, you feel you are getting a good deal because of all the extras and perks, and less because you got a price-break sort of good deal.


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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby Arama86n on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:08 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I think the real idea is to simply increase the value of Premium Membership, by adding more perks and features, something I was always pushing for. Then when you gift someone a premium, and re-up yourself, you feel you are getting a good deal because of all the extras and perks, and less because you got a price-break sort of good deal.


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If I understand the general mood of the serious CC players that love this site and wants it's best while looking after they're own best, I thing the only thing we want is that the leadership of the site spend more time on implementing good suggestions, and making things easier for the foundry.

This site has SO much potential for the owner if they would only do this. Hell another risk site was made simply because serious players felt the people in charge here weren't paying attention, were ignoring them. Go just a little way into getting stuck into the suggestions forum and listening to the foundry folk, and it will pay tenfold. (yes, pay as in dollars in the owners bank account.)
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby Gilligan on Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:20 pm

greenoaks wrote:3 months for $10

at the end of the 3 months, join a ton of games. stay freemium for 3 months.
buy another 3 months, at the end of that 3 mths join a ton of games again.


at the 12 month anniversay CC has made $20 yet yearly membership is $25 and $30 under your pricing.


in short, CC loses.


Joining a ton of games does not necessarily mean they'll last 3 months. Just gives you a big workload for a month, and two months of nothing.
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby Little Witt on Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:47 pm

So are we all agreeing CC should give us move options when buying premium?
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Re: Splitting 1yr Premium between players

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:56 pm

Arama86n wrote:If I understand the general mood of the serious CC players that love this site and wants it's best while looking after they're own best, I thing the only thing we want is that the leadership of the site spend more time on implementing good suggestions, and making things easier for the foundry.

This site has SO much potential for the owner if they would only do this. Hell another risk site was made simply because serious players felt the people in charge here weren't paying attention, were ignoring them. Go just a little way into getting stuck into the suggestions forum and listening to the foundry folk, and it will pay tenfold. (yes, pay as in dollars in the owners bank account.)

I am not sure why you quoted me, but I agree? :)

I still think the real idea should be to increase the value of Premium by adding extra perks and benefits, so the deal is in the value of what you for your purchase, not because you got some price break deal.


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