Divide off topics further

[Dukasaur]

Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again !

We don't want to be running a public library over there. Forum games is seperate as a convenience to people who play them, so they don't have to search the whole forum for their thread. Other than that, leave it alone.

[chapcrap]

I haven't really heard a good argument for leaving it alone and I believe there is a good argument for changing it.

[greenoaks]

Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again !

OT is sorted into discussion threads and games. that's enough.

[greenoaks]

I haven't really heard a good argument for leaving it alone and I believe there is a good argument for changing it.

then you should vocalise your belief because no one else has provided a good argument for changing it.

[Gillipig]

Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again !

OT is sorted into discussion threads and games. that's enough.

Tell me, have you ever even visited the off topics? Or is this just another thing you comment on without knowing anything about?

[chapcrap]

I haven't really heard a good argument for leaving it alone and I believe there is a good argument for changing it.

then you should vocalise your belief because no one else has provided a good argument for changing it.

I rarely go to OT, because there are way too many threads to try to keep track of. If it were sorted more, I think I would go more. Because of that, I also believe that others may find it a place they go more often as well. So, if more people are wanted in OT, then it's good. If more people are not wanted, then it's bad. That's my take.

As for the opposition, the reason is that change is bad. At least, that's what I've gathered so far. Here's an actual good argument for the opposition: It would take a crap ton of work to sort all of those old threads. That's a great argument for the opposition. However, all you need is a volunteer and then that argument falls through as well. For the record, I will not volunteer for that.

[rdsrds2120]

Here's a good set of reasons for not dividing the Off-Topics forum Further:

1) It's not very active as is. Debanding a low-activity forum into multiple, smaller forums, could result in more and less active forums.
2) I posit that there is a direct correlation on how the number of clicks needed to get somewhere affects the activity of that area. A 3rd level subforum further dividing something that isn't very big seems to be work for the sake of being work
3) The volunteerism required to sorts many, many pages of threads into their appropriate forum, many of which count as both, since threads take directions and go off-topic from the original post.
4) In junction with 2, a sort of "one-stop shopping" approach is arguably better than forcing users to look in different places.

BMO

[chapcrap]

Here's a good set of reasons for not dividing the Off-Topics forum Further:

1) It's not very active as is. Debanding a low-activity forum into multiple, smaller forums, could result in more and less active forums.
2) I posit that there is a direct correlation on how the number of clicks needed to get somewhere affects the activity of that area. A 3rd level subforum further dividing something that isn't very big seems to be work for the sake of being work
3) The volunteerism required to sorts many, many pages of threads into their appropriate forum, many of which count as both, since threads take directions and go off-topic from the original post.
4) In junction with 2, a sort of "one-stop shopping" approach is arguably better than forcing users to look in different places.

BMO

Is it not active? I always feel like it's really active when I go in there. Maybe that's a perspective thing.

[Gillipig]

Here's a good set of reasons for not dividing the Off-Topics forum Further:

1) It's not very active as is. Debanding a low-activity forum into multiple, smaller forums, could result in more and less active forums.
2) I posit that there is a direct correlation on how the number of clicks needed to get somewhere affects the activity of that area. A 3rd level subforum further dividing something that isn't very big seems to be work for the sake of being work
3) The volunteerism required to sorts many, many pages of threads into their appropriate forum, many of which count as both, since threads take directions and go off-topic from the original post.
4) In junction with 2, a sort of "one-stop shopping" approach is arguably better than forcing users to look in different places.

BMO

Is it not active? I always feel like it's really active when I go in there. Maybe that's a perspective thing.

It's way more active than general discussion. Several times more active. Check the number of threads that have been posted in the last week in GD and compare it to OT.
GD has about half a page of relatively active threads, OT has two pages, four times as many as GD. And that's not counting in the forum games.
So no, I highly doubt OT would be killed by more division of it's threads.

[rdsrds2120]

It's not active enough to sustain activity upon division. Or, most accurately, the benefit of being a little more organized isn't worth the trade-off.

BMO

[greenoaks]

Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again !

OT is sorted into discussion threads and games. that's enough.

Tell me, have you ever even visited the off topics? Or is this just another thing you comment on without knowing anything about?

i am there everyday and have made over 750 posts, mostly i just read other's posts although sometimes i vote in the polls - not kittens though.

i have also reported your posts there on many occassions resulting in a vacation for you.

[Gillipig]

Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again !

OT is sorted into discussion threads and games. that's enough.

Tell me, have you ever even visited the off topics? Or is this just another thing you comment on without knowing anything about?

i am there everyday and have made over 750 posts, mostly i just read other's posts although sometimes i vote in the polls - not kittens though.

i have also reported your posts there on many occassions resulting in a vacation for you.

So you basically just go there just to report my posts, lmao, get a life.

[Neoteny]

This is probably the worst idea I've heard in this young year. It's hard for me to put into words how bad it is.

[MoB Deadly]

+

And as RDS said, more clicks will make things harder, especially for mobile devices

[Metsfanmax]

It's not active enough to sustain activity upon division. Or, most accurately, the benefit of being a little more organized isn't worth the trade-off.

BMO

I land on this side of the argument. Forum subdivision almost never engenders extra activity, and this is currently a bigger issue than the fact that some people have to scroll past threads that do not interest them.