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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:25 am

Gillipig wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again :)!

We don't want to be running a public library over there. Forum games is seperate as a convenience to people who play them, so they don't have to search the whole forum for their thread. Other than that, leave it alone.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby chapcrap on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:14 am

I haven't really heard a good argument for leaving it alone and I believe there is a good argument for changing it.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby greenoaks on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:01 pm

Gillipig wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again :)!

OT is sorted into discussion threads and games. that's enough.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby greenoaks on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:02 pm

chapcrap wrote:I haven't really heard a good argument for leaving it alone and I believe there is a good argument for changing it.

then you should vocalise your belief because no one else has provided a good argument for changing it.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby Gillipig on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:16 pm

greenoaks wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again :)!

OT is sorted into discussion threads and games. that's enough.

Tell me, have you ever even visited the off topics? Or is this just another thing you comment on without knowing anything about?
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby chapcrap on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:32 pm

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chapcrap wrote:I haven't really heard a good argument for leaving it alone and I believe there is a good argument for changing it.

then you should vocalise your belief because no one else has provided a good argument for changing it.

I rarely go to OT, because there are way too many threads to try to keep track of. If it were sorted more, I think I would go more. Because of that, I also believe that others may find it a place they go more often as well. So, if more people are wanted in OT, then it's good. If more people are not wanted, then it's bad. That's my take.

As for the opposition, the reason is that change is bad. At least, that's what I've gathered so far. Here's an actual good argument for the opposition: It would take a crap ton of work to sort all of those old threads. That's a great argument for the opposition. However, all you need is a volunteer and then that argument falls through as well. For the record, I will not volunteer for that.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby rdsrds2120 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:47 pm

Here's a good set of reasons for not dividing the Off-Topics forum Further:

1) It's not very active as is. Debanding a low-activity forum into multiple, smaller forums, could result in more and less active forums.
2) I posit that there is a direct correlation on how the number of clicks needed to get somewhere affects the activity of that area. A 3rd level subforum further dividing something that isn't very big seems to be work for the sake of being work
3) The volunteerism required to sorts many, many pages of threads into their appropriate forum, many of which count as both, since threads take directions and go off-topic from the original post.
4) In junction with 2, a sort of "one-stop shopping" approach is arguably better than forcing users to look in different places.

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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby chapcrap on Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:20 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:Here's a good set of reasons for not dividing the Off-Topics forum Further:

1) It's not very active as is. Debanding a low-activity forum into multiple, smaller forums, could result in more and less active forums.
2) I posit that there is a direct correlation on how the number of clicks needed to get somewhere affects the activity of that area. A 3rd level subforum further dividing something that isn't very big seems to be work for the sake of being work
3) The volunteerism required to sorts many, many pages of threads into their appropriate forum, many of which count as both, since threads take directions and go off-topic from the original post.
4) In junction with 2, a sort of "one-stop shopping" approach is arguably better than forcing users to look in different places.

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Is it not active? I always feel like it's really active when I go in there. Maybe that's a perspective thing.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby Gillipig on Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:47 pm

chapcrap wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:Here's a good set of reasons for not dividing the Off-Topics forum Further:

1) It's not very active as is. Debanding a low-activity forum into multiple, smaller forums, could result in more and less active forums.
2) I posit that there is a direct correlation on how the number of clicks needed to get somewhere affects the activity of that area. A 3rd level subforum further dividing something that isn't very big seems to be work for the sake of being work
3) The volunteerism required to sorts many, many pages of threads into their appropriate forum, many of which count as both, since threads take directions and go off-topic from the original post.
4) In junction with 2, a sort of "one-stop shopping" approach is arguably better than forcing users to look in different places.

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Is it not active? I always feel like it's really active when I go in there. Maybe that's a perspective thing.

It's way more active than general discussion. Several times more active. Check the number of threads that have been posted in the last week in GD and compare it to OT.
GD has about half a page of relatively active threads, OT has two pages, four times as many as GD. And that's not counting in the forum games.
So no, I highly doubt OT would be killed by more division of it's threads.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby rdsrds2120 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:35 pm

It's not active enough to sustain activity upon division. Or, most accurately, the benefit of being a little more organized isn't worth the trade-off.

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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby greenoaks on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:05 pm

Gillipig wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

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agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again :)!

OT is sorted into discussion threads and games. that's enough.

Tell me, have you ever even visited the off topics? Or is this just another thing you comment on without knowing anything about?

i am there everyday and have made over 750 posts, mostly i just read other's posts although sometimes i vote in the polls - not kittens though.

i have also reported your posts there on many occassions resulting in a vacation for you. :lol:
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby Gillipig on Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:58 am

greenoaks wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:Exactly -- it's already sorted pretty well ;D

BMO

agent was arguing that it wasn't sorted at all and should stay that way, if we've already started sorting the forum we might as well do it properly. Which would mean that politics should get a subforum of it's own and probably the same with religion and science. So hah..... I'm right again :)!

OT is sorted into discussion threads and games. that's enough.

Tell me, have you ever even visited the off topics? Or is this just another thing you comment on without knowing anything about?

i am there everyday and have made over 750 posts, mostly i just read other's posts although sometimes i vote in the polls - not kittens though.

i have also reported your posts there on many occassions resulting in a vacation for you. :lol:

So you basically just go there just to report my posts, lmao, get a life.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby Neoteny on Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:45 pm

This is probably the worst idea I've heard in this young year. It's hard for me to put into words how bad it is.
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby MoB Deadly on Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:52 pm

nietzsche wrote:

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chapcrap wrote:


And as RDS said, more clicks will make things harder, especially for mobile devices
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Re: Divide off topics further

Postby Metsfanmax on Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:10 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:It's not active enough to sustain activity upon division. Or, most accurately, the benefit of being a little more organized isn't worth the trade-off.

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I land on this side of the argument. Forum subdivision almost never engenders extra activity, and this is currently a bigger issue than the fact that some people have to scroll past threads that do not interest them.
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