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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby betiko on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:26 pm

Armandolas wrote:So you dont care about the points you have?never looked at the scoreboard to see where u are?im cool with that...But i like that and tons of people like those kind of things.

well...then we should delete you from scoreboard , delete your medals and take your ranking icon , just because it shows vanity and u dont like/care about that.


exactly. I knew that I would not remember my high score, and when I wrote it it was mostly to remember it myself. Who doesn't go on his wall to check his current score after a game is finished?

regarding the medal hunting you are partly right and partly wrong. When you medal hunt, there are some settings that basically involve a lot of luck, like for example assassin. a noob in the game could perfectly give away a game to someone and there is nothing you can do about it. At some point, since you need to defeat always new players, you face not so good players and the settings you go for are very much based on luck. Therefore, you might win 60% of those games, when you are colonel or above you just lose 30 points each time and win 10. You can't expect a huge win rate in those kind of games because the skills are less at play. You might have big unlucky streaks by playing like that and drop real hard (like me right now) and start not caring anymore, you are determined to get those unike kills.

For example, the medal stats were before only available through maprank. they made a page on the site with them since about a year and I find it's a huge improvement. Maprank is very long to load, and anytime you can avoid to use it, you do. Not to mention that a vast majority of players don't use maprank. It's not normal that you have to ask others what ae your high and low score.
I personally think that not trying other settings to avoid losing rank is a question of vanity, so again it's a matter of opinion.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:53 pm

Armandolas wrote:well...then we should delete you from scoreboard , delete your medals and take your ranking icon , just because it shows vanity and u dont like/care about that.

I honestly wouldn't be bothered. The point system/scoreboard is the bane of this site and the root of many poisonous goings-on. Not only do I not care about it, in it's current existence you shouldn't either.
betiko wrote:I personally think that not trying other settings to avoid losing rank is a question of vanity, so again it's a matter of opinion.

You just need to have that little shred of "previous rank" on your profile to make you feel better is all? It's fairly easy to know what your highest rank is, just look at your profile after a game is finished. Is that the highest you've ever been? If so, write it down in a little notebook next to your computer. Maybe you can frame it someday. As far as being listed on here, there's no purpose other than insecurity/vanity.
Besides, learning the fact that you can either yourself look it up on maprank or just ask someone else to do it for you makes this a totally moot point anyhow.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby betiko on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:58 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
Armandolas wrote:well...then we should delete you from scoreboard , delete your medals and take your ranking icon , just because it shows vanity and u dont like/care about that.

I honestly wouldn't be bothered. The point system/scoreboard is the bane of this site and the root of many poisonous goings-on. Not only do I not care about it, in it's current existence you shouldn't either.
betiko wrote:I personally think that not trying other settings to avoid losing rank is a question of vanity, so again it's a matter of opinion.

You just need to have that little shred of "previous rank" on your profile to make you feel better is all? It's fairly easy to know what your highest rank is, just look at your profile after a game is finished. Is that the highest you've ever been? If so, write it down in a little notebook next to your computer. Maybe you can frame it someday. As far as being listed on here, there's no purpose other than insecurity/vanity.
Besides, learning the fact that you can either yourself look it up on maprank or just ask someone else to do it for you makes this a totally moot point anyhow.


lol, don't be a hater! ;) I know I can have a higher score than yours within a month if I go for points, just like I had a higher score than you about a week ago, but I see it makes you feel like so much better than anyone here just because you have that easy to obtain hat for someone not medal hunting. points come and go, like for most players on cc, medals stay. When we start having a decent score back again we like beating it, and knowing what we have to beat is important to most of us. Oh and we don't give a f*ck of what you think. go play your only map, poison rome and let the big boys talk. I'll soon get a platinum crossmap as I do think that this site has a bit more to offer than just 3-4 maps.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:52 pm

betiko wrote:
lol, don't be a hater! ;) I know I can have a higher score than yours within a month if I go for points, just like I had a higher score than you about a week ago, but I see it makes you feel like so much better than anyone here just because you have that easy to obtain hat for someone not medal hunting. points come and go, like for most players on cc, medals stay. When we start having a decent score back again we like beating it, and knowing what we have to beat is important to most of us. Oh and we don't give a f*ck of what you think. go play your only map, poison rome and let the big boys talk. I'll soon get a platinum crossmap as I do think that this site has a bit more to offer than just 3-4 maps.

See, there you go comparing your rank to mine... I don't hardly ever talk about my own rank and then only in the context of a relevant conversation. My rank just happens. Why so preoccupied/emotional/insecure about this rank thing?
Just try please to keep the conversation within the bounds of relevancy if it's not too much trouble? If you must know, mostly I am invited to Poison Rome these days. I actually create very few of them. Anyone can look at my games list and see it's a mixture of maps and I've simply got favorites. So you've got exactly zero ad-hominem fuel. Maybe you can keep on topic now?
If it will make you feel better to go and get a higher score than me betiko, nobody is stopping you. Be forewarned however, that it won't affect me in the least. ;)
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby jsnyder748 on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:16 pm

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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:34 pm

Please no fighting.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby betiko on Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:54 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
betiko wrote:
lol, don't be a hater! ;) I know I can have a higher score than yours within a month if I go for points, just like I had a higher score than you about a week ago, but I see it makes you feel like so much better than anyone here just because you have that easy to obtain hat for someone not medal hunting. points come and go, like for most players on cc, medals stay. When we start having a decent score back again we like beating it, and knowing what we have to beat is important to most of us. Oh and we don't give a f*ck of what you think. go play your only map, poison rome and let the big boys talk. I'll soon get a platinum crossmap as I do think that this site has a bit more to offer than just 3-4 maps.

See, there you go comparing your rank to mine... I don't hardly ever talk about my own rank and then only in the context of a relevant conversation. My rank just happens. Why so preoccupied/emotional/insecure about this rank thing?
Just try please to keep the conversation within the bounds of relevancy if it's not too much trouble? If you must know, mostly I am invited to Poison Rome these days. I actually create very few of them. Anyone can look at my games list and see it's a mixture of maps and I've simply got favorites. So you've got exactly zero ad-hominem fuel. Maybe you can keep on topic now?
If it will make you feel better to go and get a higher score than me betiko, nobody is stopping you. Be forewarned however, that it won't affect me in the least. ;)


You're not getting it... this topic is about scores, so talking about scores is relevant. From my perspective, you are the insecure one, as you don't want others to have their high score apearing on their page. I happened to have +200pts a week or 2 ago compared to what you have now and is more or less your high score. I just play differently and I'm not afraid to join coinflip games vs low ranked that will cost me tons of points. You fail to get the point that someone joining any type of tournament or any settings vs any opponent can be a good player and his actual rank is irrelevant.
Anyway, this conversation is going nowhere, but I will just list again the reasons why this would be an improvement

-the quantity of players that have to write down themselves manually their high score on their page as it's not a CC feature
-the only way to know it if you never wrote it down is through maprank which not all CC players have/use
-people want to know what type of player they are dealing with, and a high score shows what an opponent is capable of if he tries
-maprank is very long to load, and not very convenient to check this usefull information
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:55 am

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Calling somebody insecure borders on flaming, as you are insulting the person and not the user.

If the name-calling in this thread doesn't immediately cease, I will be forced to report all instances.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:17 pm

Please,i will repeat again,, these its USer Page Statistic. No need for long debate and conversation how these its very useful strategic informacion,, because i look these like statistical data, nothing more.
I can not understand that these sugestion have 10 pages of post.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby betiko on Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:20 pm

qwert wrote:Please,i will repeat again,, these its USer Page Statistic. No need for long debate and conversation how these its very useful strategic informacion,, because i look these like statistical data, nothing more.
I can not understand that these sugestion have 10 pages of post.


Me neither to tell the truth.. We just want a stat automatically instead of writting it down on user pages. Given the amount of users that do it there shouldn t even be a debate. Put low score and median score too if you want, the more stats the better!
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:22 pm

qwert wrote:Please,i will repeat again,, these its USer Page Statistic. No need for long debate and conversation how these its very useful strategic informacion,, because i look these like statistical data, nothing more.
I can not understand that these sugestion have 10 pages of post.

Part of the problem may be the proposed location of this information. If it's meant for statistical data then perhaps the information should be located somewhere besides a player's profile? That's a pretty big update for the sake of statistics. If you can find this data through maprank couldn't there just be a link somewhere tapping into this feature done by a third party?
My current rank on the scoreboard isn't shown on my profile so why would this highest rank thing be located there?
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby jsnyder748 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:44 pm

either make this a more serious sticky thread or just delete it. it is off topic since all that can be said about it has been said lol
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby maxfaraday on Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:53 am

I'll support this suggestion if you put the lowest score as well.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby betiko on Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:36 am

maxfaraday wrote:I'll support this suggestion if you put the lowest score as well.
you must have a very impressive low score max after your christmas tilt! :lol:
yes, I think no one is against low score + medium/median score as well.

Funky, where else would you want it to be? the profile is where you can see all statistics from a player, and if you're facing someone and you want to see quickly this information, there is no place else that could be more convenient. high/median/low is part of the profile of a player.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby macbone on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:31 am

I love all the stats Gameknot puts on my page. It lists my rating (score), my percentile (a horrible 20%), games won, games lost, draws, and total games.

In addition, I have games in progress, my mini-tournament points, my team rating (how cool would a clan rating be?), my rating floor, timeouts, average time per move, longest winning streak, and longest losing streak (10 - ouch!)

I have my games won/lost/drawn/moves made broken down for all games, team games, playing as white, and playing as black.

Then, I have my ratings for the past 90 days, year, and all rated games: Average chess rating, highest chess rating, lowest chess rating, average opponent rating, highest rating won against, lowest rating lost against, and average moves per game, along with arrows that show if those stats are increasing or decreasing.

They're certainly incentive for improvement!

And then there's a pie chart for wins, losses, and draws, and a line graph that plots my own rating over the past year and my opponents' average rating.

Granted, my stats are pretty awful, but they're still nice to have. =)
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby b00060 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:30 am

i think it is a great idea!
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:47 pm

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you must have a very impressive low score max after your christmas tilt! :lol:
yes, I think no one is against low score + medium/median score as well.

Funky, where else would you want it to be? the profile is where you can see all statistics from a player, and if you're facing someone and you want to see quickly this information, there is no place else that could be more convenient. high/median/low is part of the profile of a player.

I'm just not seeing the highest/lowest being any value other than flash, there being so many ways to artificially alter these two(battle royales, point dumps, etc.). Median I can see as being potentially useful as it gives a much more accurate impression of the overall skill of a player in respect the their entire cc career but the other two I still think are more or less useless.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby betiko on Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:23 pm

so basically what you're saying is that if you're facing a caporal; it's irrelevant information for you to know that this guy is a former brig or that caporal is actually his best rank ever?
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:30 pm

macbone wrote:I love all the stats Gameknot puts on my page. It lists my rating (score), my percentile (a horrible 20%), games won, games lost, draws, and total games.

In addition, I have games in progress, my mini-tournament points, my team rating (how cool would a clan rating be?), my rating floor, timeouts, average time per move, longest winning streak, and longest losing streak (10 - ouch!)

I have my games won/lost/drawn/moves made broken down for all games, team games, playing as white, and playing as black.

Then, I have my ratings for the past 90 days, year, and all rated games: Average chess rating, highest chess rating, lowest chess rating, average opponent rating, highest rating won against, lowest rating lost against, and average moves per game, along with arrows that show if those stats are increasing or decreasing.

They're certainly incentive for improvement!

And then there's a pie chart for wins, losses, and draws, and a line graph that plots my own rating over the past year and my opponents' average rating.

Granted, my stats are pretty awful, but they're still nice to have. =)


Sent you a friend request on GameKnot!

Also, the rating graph might be the best thing ever. Whenever I go into a losing streak, being painfully reminded of that in graph form is a serious motivation to stop sucking.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:51 pm

betiko wrote:so basically what you're saying is that if you're facing a caporal; it's irrelevant information for you to know that this guy is a former brig or that caporal is actually his best rank ever?

Yes, because he/she could have become brig from some sort of artificial means so it doesn't actually show you anything concrete. Besides, if you're facing a Corporal and his/her median score is above or below Corporal that's going to tell you what you really need to know right?
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby chapcrap on Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:04 pm

So, everyone likes this except Funky?
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:49 pm

chapcrap wrote:So, everyone likes this except Funky?

Everyone who bothered to post in this thread, yeah looks that way.
Although, this has sort of turned into a suggestion for lowest, highest and mean rank, the last of which I think may have some use.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby chapcrap on Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:49 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
chapcrap wrote:So, everyone likes this except Funky?

Everyone who bothered to post in this thread, yeah looks that way.
Although, this has sort of turned into a suggestion for lowest, highest and mean rank, the last of which I think may have some use.

I think the real point of this is to brag and remember good times, not demean and remember bad times. So, I think the lowest is probably a bad idea.

As for mean, I don't remember reading that, but I believe it's in there. I'm not sure how that would work. Average score at midnight since the day you joined? Average score after each game finished? That's a little more hazy and probably a lot more harder to code than the highest score.

Either way, I'm going to sticky this thread for a bit.
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Re: Show highest attained rank on profile

Postby Armandolas on Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:09 pm

The low and high score should at least be possible to a user to check it somewhere in the site, without needing to use maprank
Not necessarly in the profile, but in the scoreboard for ex.
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