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Break up the Conquer medal

Postby smegal69 on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:30 am

Have a Conquer medal for each setting and then add them all up to see who is the best all round player


Have a Conquer Medal for each setting (maybe call it a King or Queen Medal), and then add them all together to get the top Conquer
  • best standard player
  • best team player
  • best freestyle player
  • best trench player
    and so on

Specifics/Details:
  • have a score board for each setting then add them all up to see who the best player is...... i.e
    Player A has the most points for standard play, so he/she is King of Standard play, Number 1 (worth 1 point)
    Player B has the second highest points from standard play, so he/she is Number 2 (worth 2 points) and so on down the list from top to bottom
  • So now to work out Who is the Top King is or "The Conquer" you add all them up and Who has the lowest points is Number 1.... i.e
    Player A is Best freestyle player, that is 1 point. but he is 12th for foggy play, that 12 points. He is 69th at dubs play so that 69 points and so on, if you add all the points up Player A has X amount, lets say it all adds up to 82 points
    Player B is 3rd best freestyle player, so that is 3 points, 10 best at foggy play, that is 10 points and 29th at dubs play, thats another 29 points... so the Conquer Score Board would read
    Conquer Player B with 42 points
    2nd ......Player A with 82 points
    3rd ......Player X with what ever points and so on and so on

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • In light of the recent Conquers and there tactics to become number One, it has tarnished the Conquer Medal.
    Now instead of been Who is the best player, it has become Who can find a loophole and exploit it.
    if we did not just use Highest Points to rate the Conquer we would get a much better idea on who the top all round players are.
  • We will also see who the best players are at different style of play,
  • maybe call them "KINGS"
    King of Standard Player
    King of Terminator Player
    King of Assassin Player
    King of Doubles Player
    King of Trips Player
    King of Quads Player
    King of Manual Player
    King of Trench Player
    King of Fog Player
    King of Escalating Player
    King of Nukes Player
    King of Freestyle Player
    King of Speed Player
  • would be more exciting for some players and it will add more competition ...... i.e I can be Number 1 at this style of play
  • we could use the same medals we have now, but put a Crown on top of them..... sorry i can't do a pretty pic of them, but i sure someone will (griff)
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby betiko on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:44 am

sounds good
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby nicestash on Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:10 pm

The problem is that some people will lose a ton of points on assassin and once their score is low, get them all back on standard (or something along those lines) and so they could be the king of standard with a very low win percent on the map and as long as their score is low enough, they'll keep gaining points.
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby simmons4 on Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:53 pm

smegal69 wrote:Have a Conquer medal for each setting and then add them all up to see who is the best all round player


Have a Conquer Medal for each setting (maybe call it a King or Queen Medal), and then add them all together to get the top Conquer
  • best standard player
  • best team player
  • best freestyle player
  • best trench player
    and so on

Specifics/Details:
  • have a score board for each setting then add them all up to see who the best player is...... i.e
    Player A has the most points for standard play, so he/she is King of Standard play, Number 1 (worth 1 point)
    Player B has the second highest points from standard play, so he/she is Number 2 (worth 2 points) and so on down the list from top to bottom
  • So now to work out Who is the Top King is or "The Conquer" you add all them up and Who has the lowest points is Number 1.... i.e
    Player A is Best freestyle player, that is 1 point. but he is 12th for foggy play, that 12 points. He is 69th at dubs play so that 69 points and so on, if you add all the points up Player A has X amount, lets say it all adds up to 82 points
    Player B is 3rd best freestyle player, so that is 3 points, 10 best at foggy play, that is 10 points and 29th at dubs play, thats another 29 points... so the Conquer Score Board would read
    Conquer Player B with 42 points
    2nd ......Player A with 82 points
    3rd ......Player X with what ever points and so on and so on

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • In light of the recent Conquers and there tactics to become number One, it has tarnished the Conquer Medal.
    Now instead of been Who is the best player, it has become Who can find a loophole and exploit it.
    if we did not just use Highest Points to rate the Conquer we would get a much better idea on who the top all round players are.
  • We will also see who the best players are at different style of play,
  • maybe call them "KINGS"
    King of Standard Player
    King of Terminator Player
    King of Assassin Player
    King of Doubles Player
    King of Trips Player
    King of Quads Player
    King of Manual Player
    King of Trench Player
    King of Fog Player
    King of Escalating Player
    King of Nukes Player
    King of Freestyle Player
    King of Speed Player
  • would be more exciting for some players and it will add more competition ...... i.e I can be Number 1 at this style of play
  • we could use the same medals we have now, but put a Crown on top of them..... sorry i can't do a pretty pic of them, but i sure someone will (griff)












what if a yearly tournament was started and you had to be the best player from each category for the previous year to be entered. the winner of that tournament would be named conquer for the next year
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby smegal69 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:30 am

nicestash wrote:The problem is that some people will lose a ton of points on assassin and once their score is low, get them all back on standard (or something along those lines) and so they could be the king of standard with a very low win percent on the map and as long as their score is low enough, they'll keep gaining points.



The Points system for all games stays the same, so your rank will still go up and down just like it does now,
the Points for the "King/Queen medal come from same place...... if you win X amount of points for this game, X amount is add to your rank score and X amount is add to that setting score.

if a player just play 1 kind of Setting to try be king in that one it's fine...... there are lots of players that just play 1 style of games, good luck to them if they want to be king of that setting, but to be number 1 you have to be high across the settings and not just one

i.e Player A is King at Standard he will get 1 point to the conquer score board, but he is ranked 15,000 at Freestyle he gets 15,000 points, he is ranked 12,000 at Foggy he get 12,000 points.
Now you add all them points up for all the setting and you get X amount (that means player A has 27,001 points)
Player B maybe ranked 100th at Standard and 500th at Freestyle and 10,000th at foggy (player B has 10,600 points)
so Player B would be higher up the Conquer score board
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby jsnyder748 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:48 am

I don't know how much this would show. I am something like plus 12,000 in freestyle but negative some number in standard. wouldn't all the score added back together equal the total amount of points just equal our score as it is now on the conquer boards? lol
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby king achilles on Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:35 am

Let's just be clear that breaking up the conqueror medal does not stop people from resorting to whatever they can in order to achieve their medal hunt. So although these medals look good, at some point in time, there will always be someone or some people who will be questioned how he accomplished to get that medal.

I'm thinking maybe the top achievement medal will have 2 different colored figures but will still have the same value and people can vote on it.

One medal will represent that people agree to what he achieved as deserving.
One medal will mean that how he got there is questionable and not really approved by those who voted.
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby eddie2 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:21 am

king achilles wrote:Let's just be clear that breaking up the conqueror medal does not stop people from resorting to whatever they can in order to achieve their medal hunt. So although these medals look good, at some point in time, there will always be someone or some people who will be questioned how he accomplished to get that medal.

I'm thinking maybe the top achievement medal will have 2 different colored figures but will still have the same value and people can vote on it.

One medal will represent that people agree to what he achieved as deserving.
One medal will mean that how he got there is questionable and not really approved by those who voted.


this one sounds good to me but instead of a vote a simple look at games and if any form of cheating happening they get the 2nd medal.
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby jghost7 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:35 am

king achilles wrote:...
I'm thinking maybe the top achievement medal will have 2 different colored figures but will still have the same value and people can vote on it.

One medal will represent that people agree to what he achieved as deserving.
One medal will mean that how he got there is questionable and not really approved by those who voted.


Nope. Way too subjective. Smegals idea is pretty solid though.
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:07 pm

nicestash wrote:The problem is that some people will lose a ton of points on assassin and once their score is low, get them all back on standard (or something along those lines) and so they could be the king of standard with a very low win percent on the map and as long as their score is low enough, they'll keep gaining points.


This pretty much devastates the idea, I think. The only way to get around this would be to use win percentage as the metric, rather than points.
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby nicestash on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:49 pm

Or another option would be to have separate scores for each category. Then you could average them out to come up with a cumulative score which would be shown on your profile/for your rank.
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:02 am

Another issue is that settings arent set in stone. A 1v1 assassin game is undistinguishable from a 1v1 standard or terminator. Why should they have seperate medals?

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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby nicestash on Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:11 am

You aren't allowed to set up a 1v1 assassin or a 1v1 terminator
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby greenoaks on Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:02 pm

i suggested something like that here.


if you break it up then the score for each setting needs to be calculated independantly of the score for every other setting. that way it is not possible to bomb a stack of Assassin games to lower your score to make a run at No. 1 Terminator.
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Re: Break up the Conquer medal

Postby nicestash on Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:59 pm

The only problem I can see with that is implementing it- does everyone go back to 0 or is every score recalculated (and how?).
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