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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby IcePack on Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:34 am

jeraado wrote:I disagree also. If you shut down game chat how will sitters notify? I also think it would just encourage secret diplomacy

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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:04 am

Yeah, bad idea. If you really don't like "deals", then there are a couple (that I know of) usergroups that are set up solely for people who want to play "no deal" games. Try joining one of those. The two I can think of are The Lone Wolves (or Rangers, or something like that) and Xi Games.
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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby JoshyBoy on Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:20 am

Hey! TFO! Get this moved to Rejected! :lol:
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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:36 am

jeraado wrote:I disagree also. If you shut down game chat how will sitters notify? I also think it would just encourage secret diplomacy


Why is it such a big deal that sitters identify themselves anyway?
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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby JoshyBoy on Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:43 am

Metsfanmax wrote:Why is it such a big deal that sitters identify themselves anyway?


You're joking right? Right?!?
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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby mybad on Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:11 pm

deals are part of the game. how are you going to stop it? just protest deals.
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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby natty dread on Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:20 pm

If you want to play "no truce" games, you can always post in callouts. I'm sure you'll find lots of other players who are willing to play games without truces.

As for turning off the game chat, that's a lousy idea. Game chat is the soul of the game.


Question to op: would you enjoy playing a game of risk (the boardgame) with your friends, where each of you would have to duct-tape your mouths for the duration of the game?

I don't think you would.
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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby TheForgivenOne on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:09 pm

natty_dread wrote:Question to op: would you enjoy playing a game of risk (the boardgame) with your friends, where each of you would have to duct-tape your mouths for the duration of the game?

I don't think you would.


I know it wasn't directed at me, but I know I would. But I'm special in that kind of way.


This idea has been suggested before, and has been rejected before. Main reasoning is that players would be more inclined to make a deal via PM's or wall's, or even send the player an email to get a truce, another being that sitters are meant to announce in chat that if they are taking somebodies turn. Truth be told, in most of my games, I never see truces. Very few are made.

So I will be moving this to Rejected.
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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby Pacohell on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:08 am

Okidoki...Couldnt find it in the mountain of suggestions : )
So the general notion is the chat always stays on.

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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby Pacohell on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:11 am

natty_dread wrote:
Question to op: would you enjoy playing a game of risk (the boardgame) with your friends, where each of you would have to duct-tape your mouths for the duration of the game?



How did you know how i like to play! Duct-tape Risk is a classic! :lol:
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Re: NO DEAL BUTTON

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:33 pm

Wow, this idea sucks. The site was designed, and it seems to have been made clear many times, to encourage social interaction. Turn off the chat, well... you get the idea. I certainly wouldn't join. :lol:
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Make In-Game Chat an Option

Postby GreecePwns on Sun May 08, 2011 10:52 am

Concise description:
  • Give the game creator the option to turn the chatbox on/off

Specifics/Details:
  • This option would be listed when a player creates a game and, when turned off, the chat box would be only available for notes to self

      How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
      • In Fog of War games, players who are against giving away positions (some are, some aren't) can make that impossible
      • In all games, players who are against diplomacy altogether can make that impossible
      • In tournaments, an organizer can use this function to fit a certain tournament theme
      • Who doesn't like more options?
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Re: Make In-Game Chat an Option

Postby TheFissk on Sun May 08, 2011 5:04 pm

i like chatting however i see the validity of your point i think it is a easy to do OPTION
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Re: Make In-Game Chat an Option

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun May 08, 2011 5:36 pm

GreecePwns wrote:Concise description:
  • Give the game creator the option to turn the chatbox on/off

Specifics/Details:
  • This option would be listed when a player creates a game and, when turned off, the chat box would be only available for notes to self

      How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
      • In Fog of War games, players who are against giving away positions (some are, some aren't) can make that impossible
      • In all games, players who are against diplomacy altogether can make that impossible
      • In tournaments, an organizer can use this function to fit a certain tournament theme
      • Who doesn't like more options?


This has been suggested before, and rejected before. This will only make users use Secret Diplomacy more-so. If you want a game where there is no Diplomacy, consider joining the Lone Rangers usergroup.
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Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby Demen on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:33 pm

Hello there,
I have attempted to find similar suggestions without any luck and I apologise in advance if this is in the wrong place or duplicates prior discussion.

Concise description:
  • Proposed new game setting: Game Chat Y/N (ability to disable game chat)

Specifics/Details:
  • New option on the Start A Game page that has radio buttons for Yes or No against an option labelled Game Chat
  • This would allow users to set up games with the Game Chat disabled.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Reduce the ability for players to use diplomacy.
  • Reduce the ability for players and teams to form alliances.
  • Reduce the ability for players to disclose strategic information.
  • Reduce the ability for teams to rely on a single player.
  • Encourage teams who play at a similar level or in a similar style.
  • Encourage players to base their game on strategy and deduction.
  • It is also hoped that because this is a reduction of functionality as oppose to additional functionality, it should be relatively straight forward to implement.
  • Finally as the proposal is for an game 'option' that may or may not be utilised by players, it is hoped that this functionality is:
    a) unlikely to cause offence to those who are happy with the existing format
    b) likely to add a new dimension for others
    c) resolve a variety of issues with game dynamics for some.
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:48 pm

Why would any person who wants to win a team game, want to ignore communication with his/her teammates?
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby spiesr on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:57 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:Why would any person who wants to win a team game, want to ignore communication with his/her teammates?
Why would anyone playing a team game on this setting not simply use other methods of communication such a pms? To the OP, since your idea appears to be that games of this type would ban communication between players, even if they are on the same team, how would you recommend enforcing the rules against team mates who pm/email/talk to each other?
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby jghost7 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:02 pm

Wouldn't be too bad if it were 'disable open chat' where it just disabled chat from opposing players and kept the team chat in team games. it wouldn't matter for standard games.


spiesr wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Why would any person who wants to win a team game, want to ignore communication with his/her teammates?
Why would anyone playing a team game on this setting not simply use other methods of communication such a pms? To the OP, since your idea appears to be that games of this type would ban communication between players, even if they are on the same team, how would you recommend enforcing the rules against team mates who pm/email/talk to each other?


no, i don't think he is suggesting a rule change, just an option that closes the chat box, so no enforcing necessary. I would be ok with this as long as team chat remained.
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:05 pm

spiesr wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Why would any person who wants to win a team game, want to ignore communication with his/her teammates?
Why would anyone playing a team game on this setting not simply use other methods of communication such a pms? To the OP, since your idea appears to be that games of this type would ban communication between players, even if they are on the same team, how would you recommend enforcing the rules against team mates who pm/email/talk to each other?


I think the OP is suggesting that people will want to do team games without conversing with their teammate (?) and not having a game chat makes this easier to do.
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby jghost7 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:41 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
spiesr wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Why would any person who wants to win a team game, want to ignore communication with his/her teammates?
Why would anyone playing a team game on this setting not simply use other methods of communication such a pms? To the OP, since your idea appears to be that games of this type would ban communication between players, even if they are on the same team, how would you recommend enforcing the rules against team mates who pm/email/talk to each other?


I think the OP is suggesting that people will want to do team games without conversing with their teammate (?) and not having a game chat makes this easier to do.



LOL, yeah, I was purposely ignoring that....dang it Max!....lol

Minus the team portion, it is ok. It would be ludicrous to assume that a team game would be played with no chat. Even if this option somehow passes with the teamchat removed, they will still likely chat using some of the previously mentioned options. Great for standard games, and speed games. If it is not an option to allow teamchat while regular chat is disabled, then I would probably just set it as an option for standard games only.
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby spiesr on Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:I think the OP is suggesting that people will want to do team games without conversing with their teammate (?) and not having a game chat makes this easier to do.
But wouldn't those people presumably want their opponents to be held to the same restriction? And won't some people want to gain an advantage by communicating with their teammates anyway? An actual ban between players would be like Secret Diplomacy, easy to circumvent, impossible to enforce, only more so...
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby jghost7 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:28 pm

spiesr wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I think the OP is suggesting that people will want to do team games without conversing with their teammate (?) and not having a game chat makes this easier to do.
But wouldn't those people presumably want their opponents to be held to the same restriction? And won't some people want to gain an advantage by communicating with their teammates anyway? An actual ban between players would be like Secret Diplomacy, easy to circumvent, impossible to enforce, only more so...


lol, yes, and that is what I said earlier, besides, it would only be an added setting, no new rule would be created for that setting.
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:44 pm

All this will cause, in my opinion, is people trying harder for Diplomacy.
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby northeastern on Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:28 pm

I think its a great idea. :D :D
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Re: Game setting: Disable Game Chat

Postby jfktolax on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:19 pm

Team have to be able to talk to each other.

Maybe in games like Assassin or Terminator or Fog of War games where information is at a premium a 'filter' could be used. By filter I mean certain words (like the names of territories) would never show up in text chats, or numbers.

This might have been off on a tangent.

Please don't take the human aspect of verbal warfare out of this game. No talk would take us even further away from the physical board game around the kitchen table we grew up on.

That might have just aged me.

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