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josko.ri wrote:I think it is better to not update all before you include Random League II results from December. You have already ranking which is not accurate excluding those 100+ games, so when on inaccurate rankings you chain more results which are directly related to the inaccurate ones because strength of an opponents also has important role in rankings, then the final standings become even more inaccurate.
Dako wrote:They should be added if they are moved to completed challenges and have finished. Are they?
Keefie wrote:It's all available on the website. Does the exact finish date really matter that much ???? As I said add 14 days to the start date and you wont be far wrong.
benga wrote:I am making the update as we speak, will have it by the end of day or night
Keefie wrote:"You are clearly not understanding what I've said. Its up to the organizers. You arent really contributing to the discussion by repeating the same thing over and over. Unless you have something more constructive to say, i wont be reaponding to you anymore in F400. Thanks and have a great day."
Thanks for the pm Ice
I was hoping for an answer to my question.
Gunn never used to put in the CL results and when he did, he stated quite clearly that their impact was minimal. I'm all for these mini war results being included but if having the exact end dates makes the data collection onerous for the organisers, then what would the impact be if the end date was input as 14 days after the start date (which is freely available). If the difference is zero or negligible, is the extra data collection worth the effort ?
Chariot of Fire wrote:"If a job's worth doing it's worth doing well"
Both Josko and Ice are right in respect of wanting to record the results in proper chronological order, so yeah....a couple of weeks out can make a difference. As Ice says it can come down to a single point here or there. It may not seem like much, but when this ladder is the basis on which seedings are done for Clan League and Conqueror's Cup it can have a huge impact as it could put a clan either in a different division (league) or other half of the draw (cup).
The best solution is if the responsibility is placed on the warring clans to post their results here (we can't expect TO's to do it, nor for them to be prompt when moving a challenge to 'Completed'). So if every clan head is given implicit instructions to post clan vs clan results in this thread they will only have themselves to blame if they're not moving up the ladder (obviously I'd expect the winning clan to be the one to post).
This is Ice's baby though, so I'll butt out and leave him to administer it as he sees fit. If he'd like help though in promoting the idea of all clans posting results here then I can help with some suggestions.
Chariot of Fire wrote:OK mate, fair comment. There are certainly fewer organizers to be held accountable than there are clans, but I just wonder if they mind that onus of responsibility? Clans (esp clan heads) tend to remain stable, whereas organizers change and new ones may not be aware of the requirement to post data promptly (or at all).
John Deere wrote:LOL we went down by 2.... dont see that being realistic but we will prove this whole chart wrong this year
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