josko.ri wrote:Legal by clan rules, but abuse by site rules, you know it the best when there is need to point finger in others about breaking rules, but somehow you are missing to realize it when it is about you.
Here is reminder which rule is broken, and it is NOT rule about 2 hour gap.
Rodion wrote:As far as I understand, clan sitting rules did not revoke site-wide sitting rules.
And you do know that "playing turns when the sitee was online in that 24-hour period" is punishable.
I would like to hear an explanation from CD's on that. Looks like we have two sets of rules here and one contradicts another. Which one is correct? And please don't tell me that both are. Right now (it looks like, at least to josko and Rodion) that if you sit for a person legitimately under clan rules then you break site rules which is nonsense.
I always thought that clan sitting rules extend site rules and override them when it comes to clan games. Please enlighten me how we should live in this chaotic world.
We don't have two sets of rules regarding this. When it has been mentioned by the multi hunters in past cases. What they meant was It is against the rules to intentionally leave particular games for account sitters. If the owner deliberately leaves certain games for the sitter. That's account sitting abuse. You may offer emergency sitting when there is a genuine reason for it and not to gain an unfair advantage.
When we mention common sense. We mean that we will look at each sitting case and apply common sense. If the person had a genuine reason for needing emergency cover then we will accept that, if they don't and it happens regularly then we will act. We can spot abuses by looking at a players regular gaming habits, log on times etc. Also we need the rules to factor in today's modern technology. Many people log on in different ways throughout the day. Logging on via a phone to answer a pm doesn't mean you could have taken your turns for example.
I will remind everyone that the CD team work hand in hand with the multi hunter team when dealing with clan sitting abuse cases. We don't have the tools so all investigations go via the MH team. So if it comes under a site rule they will take over. If its sitting we deal with it. Providing emergency cover is not against the rules so long as the turn wasn't left on purpose.