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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby eddie2 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:10 am

Bruce i have posted a rough draft to put the idea of the tournament to the clans to see if they would be interested in it.as for beta map usage why wouldi not be allowef to have privs you gave privs and medals to the 1v1 tourney which was against the rules of privs
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby Keefie on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:16 am

Bruceswar wrote:Eddie as you know this event needs a lot of work for it to be run in this section.


4. MVP medals will likely not be given, unless this event draws 30+ clans and has a substantial amount of games. (That is just how it works) And if it does, usually only 1 medal is given.


The above is not true, the Random League has already set a precedent. Random League II had only 9 clans but Snuden of the Headless Horsemen was awarded an MVP medal.
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:36 am

Keefie wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Eddie as you know this event needs a lot of work for it to be run in this section.


4. MVP medals will likely not be given, unless this event draws 30+ clans and has a substantial amount of games. (That is just how it works) And if it does, usually only 1 medal is given.


The above is not true, the Random League has already set a precedent. Random League II had only 9 clans but Snuden of the Headless Horsemen was awarded an MVP medal.



And the random league has quite a few games also. 30+ clans was just a and or many games. In other words if 4 clans signed up, then there would not be any MVP medal(s) handed out.
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby Seulessliathan on Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:50 am

Bruceswar wrote:
Keefie wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Eddie as you know this event needs a lot of work for it to be run in this section.


4. MVP medals will likely not be given, unless this event draws 30+ clans and has a substantial amount of games. (That is just how it works) And if it does, usually only 1 medal is given.


The above is not true, the Random League has already set a precedent. Random League II had only 9 clans but Snuden of the Headless Horsemen was awarded an MVP medal.



And the random league has quite a few games also. 30+ clans was just a and or many games. In other words if 4 clans signed up, then there would not be any MVP medal(s) handed out.



Seriously Bruce ....

Once you say 30+ clans. Then someone brings an example where you give medals although only 9 clans are involved.
Then you say more than 4 clans, and many games.
This is exactly the vague reply of somebody who wants to be able to set and change the rules whenever he wants.If this is NOT the case ( and i hope it isn´t) , then:


Do yourself and everybody else a favor: Don´t post such vague replies. Discuss with the CDs and the clan leaders and work out a number you can give us. Minimum of participating clans, minimum of games.

Answer can be something like: (numbers are quickly picked at random)
a) 10+ clans, 500+ games in total
b) 24+ clans
c) 1000+ games

If you continue with vague replies, people will lose faith in CD (seems like this already happened to several clan players, but it´s never too late to regain some reputation and rebuild what was damaged lately)
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:41 am

Eddie knows what it takes to get an MVP medal. Just like any tournament giving out GA medals. This must be worthy of such a medal. That means it must be one of a few things. Either A) A large sum of games such as CL5, B) Have a bunch of clans taking part, such as CC4, or CL5, or likely the TLO. C) A good bit of length also. These medals are meant to be handed out when they are earned. I have told eddie what he needs to do in order to get them.

My answer was not meant to be vague, but rather a mistype(Yes I am not mistake proof). I am not trying to say he cannot get an MVP medal, but it will take more than a few wars to get there.
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby Keefie on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:20 am

So Random League II was completed with 432 games being played and an MVP medal was awarded. Am I right in saying that Eddies Cup will need around 10/12 clans in order to achieve about the same number of matches ?
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:22 am

Those numbers look about right. CD's have rights to those medals and issue them as seen fit. (Assuming the event ask for them) Lets see how this pans out before we start talking about a single few medals.
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:40 pm

I think you'd want to have a default set-up for a match-up in the event two clans cannot reach an agreement.
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby eddie2 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:21 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:I think you'd want to have a default set-up for a match-up in the event two clans cannot reach an agreement.


these are things i am going to add patrickaa i think i will sort out the full format tonight tommorow i just posted this thread to get a rough idea if clans would like the format.. just now i have contacted 1 or 2 departments to see where i stand....

1) asking clan mods if they will allow this kind of event to draw other areas to the clan section..
2) drawing clans to the tourney section..
3) finding a home for this event (asking for special privileges from admin to have privs to run it in general discussion refused (due to rules for privs(im ok with that).) if nobody will let me host it there
i have asked 3 areas if they would be willing to let me run this event if i follow certain rules or what rules they would want.. and waiting for a response.

all i can say is that so far from different sections i have been told i can have.

1)3 entrys into the conquerors cup
2)12 months premium added to 12 months i will donate...
3) some medals for one of the awards i want to give (with terms to it that dont sound 2 bad. all that has to happen is some feedback from teams/clans)
4) a match of half the premium i put down. (if another department agrees to give some medals.)
5)another department not confirming but i might get some medals to issue
6) i department saying they can not run the event but have asked if they are willing to pass some medals my way for terms they want for issuing of them medals.

this is the reason i posted this as has to be confirmed. because this event will incorporate several departments into the issue of medals and i need to find a home for it.. i also need to find out roughly how many clans will be interested in this style of event to get a rough idea if it is a go ahead. at the end of it i want a clan style event that will make it that even if you dont win there will be something up for grabs each round for everyone who takes part. i myself am going to be putting up to 5 years premium in this event to be split up between all clans who or if need be non clans who have teams of 14 as long as they sign up under a name and are not part of a clan who has a team in already.....

things i have still got to ask is...
1)will i be able to split the premium up into the 1 month terms that ccup4 has.
2)will i be able to get the privs if i have to move this to general discussions or callouts denied
3)will i be able to get some form of different medal for the winners.
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby eddie2 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:25 pm

well it has to be either clans or tourneys for this.
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby eddie2 on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:58 am

cannot be held in tourneys
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby josko.ri on Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:13 am

eddie2 wrote:these are things i am going to add patrickaa i think i will sort out the full format tonight tommorow i just posted this thread to get a rough idea if clans would like the format.. just now i have contacted 1 or 2 departments to see where i stand....

So you will sort out the full format tonight-tomorrow, and there have already passed more than 2 weeks without any word?
You will run the tournament, you will add your own premium, you will bla bla bla. So what you have done of all that that you said you will do?
You are very active when you are asking other tournament organizers what they are doing and when you are criticizing them and their work, so where is your activity now when you need to do something?
How you expect that someone will take you seriously when you cannot stay even behind your own words that you will run the tournament?
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:18 am

josko.ri wrote:
eddie2 wrote:these are things i am going to add patrickaa i think i will sort out the full format tonight tommorow i just posted this thread to get a rough idea if clans would like the format.. just now i have contacted 1 or 2 departments to see where i stand....

So you will sort out the full format tonight-tomorrow, and there have already passed more than 2 weeks without any word?
You will run the tournament, you will add your own premium, you will bla bla bla. So what you have done of all that that you said you will do?
You are very active when you are asking other tournament organizers what they are doing and when you are criticizing them and their work, so where is your activity now when you need to do something?
How you expect that someone will take you seriously when you cannot stay even behind your own words that you will run the tournament?

Why bump this post other than to attempt to bait eddie?
Give it a rest
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby josko.ri on Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:24 am

BGtheBrain wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
eddie2 wrote:these are things i am going to add patrickaa i think i will sort out the full format tonight tommorow i just posted this thread to get a rough idea if clans would like the format.. just now i have contacted 1 or 2 departments to see where i stand....

So you will sort out the full format tonight-tomorrow, and there have already passed more than 2 weeks without any word?
You will run the tournament, you will add your own premium, you will bla bla bla. So what you have done of all that that you said you will do?
You are very active when you are asking other tournament organizers what they are doing and when you are criticizing them and their work, so where is your activity now when you need to do something?
How you expect that someone will take you seriously when you cannot stay even behind your own words that you will run the tournament?

Why bump this post other than to attempt to bait eddie?
Give it a rest

Because every clan need to have its own management. In KORT case, we need to discuss whether we will join this event, and/or LX's event, or nothing. If this event will not happen then I think it is fair to say that, and not anymore waste other clans' time ion discussing joining it or not. But if eddie says he will run the event, and then just disappear, is it fair to clans who planned their activity and maybe left some space for this event (maybe skipped CC4 because of that), and the space will now be empty?

I just want that people stay behing their own said words, is it too much what I ask?
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Re: (to be comfirmed) cup

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:50 am

The tone of your post was clear.

You were antagonistic. You can pretend you werent, but its easy for anyone to see.

We all know Eddie gets fired up easy.

So please, if you seriously want to know if this event will happen, just ask him.

Eddie, is this thing going to happen or whats up?
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