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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Gilligan on Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:21 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.


Huh?

I definitely nominated Lindax for TD when I was one. There has never been a public vote for TeamCC positions.

You may be referring to the TO user group, which is hardly related to the Team. Not to say that the position isn't prestigious, just...no one ever posts there.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Lindax on Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:44 pm

Gilligan wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.


Huh?

I definitely nominated Lindax for TD when I was one. There has never been a public vote for TeamCC positions.

You may be referring to the TO user group, which is hardly related to the Team. Not to say that the position isn't prestigious, just...no one ever posts there.


Yeah, homework Viper. I was a TD long before I was chosen to lead the TO usergroup. Which, incidentally, was after I resigned as a TD.

The rest of your answers in your latest post merely show that you either didn't read my comments properly or you simply don't have anything constructive to say.

Sometimes one is better off by not responding.


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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby ViperOverLord on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:24 pm

Lindax wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.


Huh?

I definitely nominated Lindax for TD when I was one. There has never been a public vote for TeamCC positions.

You may be referring to the TO user group, which is hardly related to the Team. Not to say that the position isn't prestigious, just...no one ever posts there.


Yeah, homework Viper. I was a TD long before I was chosen to lead the TO usergroup. Which, incidentally, was after I resigned as a TD.

The rest of your answers in your latest post merely show that you either didn't read my comments properly or you simply don't have anything constructive to say.

Sometimes one is better off by not responding.


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I read and responded to all of your comments and even thoroughly broke them down. It's cheap for you to say otherwise. If there's a specific point that you think is paramount that I somehow did not regard then go ahead and note it. And you were in a vote with other people that had not been TD's. And everything I said was in a constructive manner. You're just taking (more) cheap shots to be saying otherwise, which is plenty sad. No surprise, given you started your message on an ignorant, condescending note.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby ViperOverLord on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:27 pm

Gilligan wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.


Huh?

I definitely nominated Lindax for TD when I was one. There has never been a public vote for TeamCC positions.

You may be referring to the TO user group, which is hardly related to the Team. Not to say that the position isn't prestigious, just...no one ever posts there.


No. There was a TD position that has been put up for vote multiple times. LX won that vote once or twice. Darin44 won it thereafter. And that's a good thing. The community got to choose whomever they wanted to work with and/or whomever's vision they supported. There is no need for a handful of people to have so much power irrespective of the entire clan community.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Lindax on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:36 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:
Lindax wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.


Huh?

I definitely nominated Lindax for TD when I was one. There has never been a public vote for TeamCC positions.

You may be referring to the TO user group, which is hardly related to the Team. Not to say that the position isn't prestigious, just...no one ever posts there.


Yeah, homework Viper. I was a TD long before I was chosen to lead the TO usergroup. Which, incidentally, was after I resigned as a TD.

The rest of your answers in your latest post merely show that you either didn't read my comments properly or you simply don't have anything constructive to say.

Sometimes one is better off by not responding.


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I read and responded to all of your comments and even thoroughly broke them down. It's cheap for you to say otherwise. If there's a specific point that you think is paramount that I somehow did not regard then go ahead and note it. And you were in a vote with other people that had not been TD's. And everything I said was in a constructive manner. You're just taking (more) cheap shots to be saying otherwise, which is plenty sad.


I could have taken plenty of cheap shots, but I didn't and didn't need to.

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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Gilligan on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:37 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.


Huh?

I definitely nominated Lindax for TD when I was one. There has never been a public vote for TeamCC positions.

You may be referring to the TO user group, which is hardly related to the Team. Not to say that the position isn't prestigious, just...no one ever posts there.


No. There was a TD position that has been put up for vote multiple times. LX won that vote once or twice. Darin44 won it thereafter. And that's a good thing. The community got to choose whomever they wanted to work with and/or whomever's vision they supported. There is no need for a handful of people to have so much power irrespective of the entire clan community.


Sorry, Viper, you are wrong...how can you win a vote to be TD twice?

You are still talking about leading the TO group, which does not come with a gold name.

In fact, one specific requirement for this position is that you CANNOT be a TD.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby ViperOverLord on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:38 pm

Lindax wrote:I could have taken plenty of cheap shots, but I didn't and didn't need to.

Lx


That's all you did was take cheap shots. You were in a freaking vote with people who had not been TDs and you know that. And you knew that when you were saying that it never worked like that anywhere else on CC. Also, you were being cheap when you said I hadn't regarded your points or being constructive. I most certainly was constructive and did fully regard your points in good faith. So, if you have something 'constructive' to add then go ahead.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Lindax on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:40 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.


Huh?

I definitely nominated Lindax for TD when I was one. There has never been a public vote for TeamCC positions.

You may be referring to the TO user group, which is hardly related to the Team. Not to say that the position isn't prestigious, just...no one ever posts there.


No. There was a TD position that has been put up for vote multiple times. LX won that vote once or twice. Darin44 won it thereafter. And that's a good thing. The community got to choose whomever they wanted to work with and/or whomever's vision they supported. There is no need for a handful of people to have so much power irrespective of the entire clan community.


You really have no clue, do you. You are talking about running the TO usergroup. I did that for one term (6 months) then Darin took over. I decided not to put myself up for election for a second term. Again, that was after I resigned as a TD. As a matter of fact TDs aren't even allowed to run that usergroup.

You want a cheap shot? This is all public information, relatively simple to understand for most people. What are you on to make you so thick?

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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby ViperOverLord on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:44 pm

Lindax wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.


Huh?

I definitely nominated Lindax for TD when I was one. There has never been a public vote for TeamCC positions.

You may be referring to the TO user group, which is hardly related to the Team. Not to say that the position isn't prestigious, just...no one ever posts there.


No. There was a TD position that has been put up for vote multiple times. LX won that vote once or twice. Darin44 won it thereafter. And that's a good thing. The community got to choose whomever they wanted to work with and/or whomever's vision they supported. There is no need for a handful of people to have so much power irrespective of the entire clan community.


You really have no clue, do you. You are talking about running the TO usergroup. I did that for one term (6 months) then Darin took over. I decided not to put myself up for election for a second term. Again, that was after I resigned as a TD. As a matter of fact TDs aren't even allowed to run that usergroup.

You want a cheap shot? This is all public information, relatively simple to understand for most people. What are you on to make you so thick?

Lx


I knew it was a vote for TD or something related (But fine; TO group leader). The specifics aren't especially consequential. Either way, another community on CC got to choose who represented them and that was my point. And yes, you've taken cheap shots. I regarded your post fully and you still haven't bothered to say how I didn't do so. And it's cheap for you to say I'm not being constructive. I've regarded improving the system. Just because you don't agree doesn't make it not constructive.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby chemefreak on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:46 pm

Locking this one up before you two get yourselves in trouble.

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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:50 pm

Allowing ordinary members to vote CDs just leaves room for clan bias.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby ViperOverLord on Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:47 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:Allowing ordinary members to vote CDs just leaves room for clan bias.


There's 'bias' in any option. And I'd have clan leaders vote in the CDF. A voting system creates an accountability that is not existent now.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Lindax on Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:33 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Allowing ordinary members to vote CDs just leaves room for clan bias.


There's 'bias' in any option. And I'd have clan leaders vote in the CDF. A voting system creates an accountability that is not existent now.


Ok Viper. Not trying to be an ass. Please explain how that creates accountability (and to whom) and why that is important (and to whom).

Also, why do you say there is no accountability now?

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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby VioIet on Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:42 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Allowing ordinary members to vote CDs just leaves room for clan bias.


There's 'bias' in any option. And I'd have clan leaders vote in the CDF. A voting system creates an accountability that is not existent now.


What about a half/half decision?

Members can nominate someone who they think will be good in the role, and maybe the three people with the most nominations can be selected for review. Of course, those voted, must accept the nomination to indicate that they actually would be interesting and willing to take on the responsibilities and duties of the position. Then the current cd team interviews and ends up selecting one of those three.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby greenoaks on Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:42 pm

VioIet wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Allowing ordinary members to vote CDs just leaves room for clan bias.


There's 'bias' in any option. And I'd have clan leaders vote in the CDF. A voting system creates an accountability that is not existent now.


What about a half/half decision?

Members can nominate someone who they think will be good in the role, and maybe the three people with the most nominations can be selected for review. Of course, those voted, must accept the nomination to indicate that they actually would be interesting and willing to take on the responsibilities and duties of the position. Then the current cd team interviews and ends up selecting one of those three.

what if they are not suitable?
if they need to agree to the nomination what is stopping them from applying with the current method?
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