[CL4] Ph2 Div 1 - Winner: KoRT MVP: Mudfighter

[Sniper08]

TOFU need to win Game 11176808 and Game 11138593 to get to 8 pts to go through as it looks more and more likely 8 pts not 7 will be enough, if TOFU fail to win either games they are out.

Are you sure?

TOFU beat AOC and EMPIRE (4 points).
TOFU seems like they'll tie with TSM (need to win Gazala and Hive, both looking good for TOFU) looks like i had this as a win for TSM, havent checked it in a while as didnt think TOFU could come back guess i was wrong i think that sums up this entire tournament never count anyone out. and KORT (if KORT wins Berlin and Hive, both looking good for KORT).


Then they have 6 points + the AFOS matchup. AFOS lead 5-4, but TOFU appears to be winning Texan Wars. If they win Hive (Kaskavel is close to the dreaded 35 figure) and Poison Rome, they can get to 8 points.Yup they need PR but we all know region count dont mean shit on that map but AFOS do have a few bonuses so its not looking good for TOFU. so i may have gotten the games wrong but not the figures TOFU is will be on 7 not the golden 8

That said, AFOS are looking good in Poison Rome.

Agree lynchy. It's actually made me reconsider my entire philosophy on how CL5 is structured, coz this has been both intense and fun. A 'true' league may end up with a winner after just 70% of games have completed, whereas moving into a Super League (the way the Scots rearranged their 1st Division) adds a new dimension and ensures there is excitement all the way to the finishing line.

arent we switching to a true league format for next year? like qwerts idea or some other league structure instead of this mini group stage then final knockout stage structure.

[lord voldemort]

Its unbelievable how fricken close these clans are....Any given day with dice can change the results

[usernamer]

its gonna be close but i think IA will beat AOC in Conquer Rome(more troops more RD) but it will take forever for that game to end.

That game probably will take forever to end
But for the record, I really wouldn't rule AOC out of that game. Imo right now, it's totally even between the two sides.
The next couple of rounds will probably be crucial in deciding who will get it, imo.

[codeblue1018]

wow TSM last after the serious spanking they gave us...

I know subprime disappearing affected them quite a bit. I know it's most probably the only reason we're getting a point against them after being down and out

Yes, that definitely hurt us. I do believe we lost three games that were most likely wins because of subprime. That said, as everyone else pointed out, one hell of tourney with top notch performances exhibited by all clans; Was fun to be a part of this. Good luck to all remaining clans.

[tokle]

Round 1:
PACK 8-4 TOFU
AOC 5-6 IA
AFOS 5-7 EMP
TSM 5-7 KORT

Round 2:
IA 5-7 PACK
EMP 5-7 TOFU
KORT 7-4 AOC
TSM 4-8 AFOS

Round 3:
PACK 4-8 EMP
IA 3-8 KORT
TOFU 4-6 TSM
AOC 8-4 AFOS

Round 4:
KORT 7-5 PACK
TSM 6-5 EMP
AFOS 3-7 IA
AOC 4-7 TOFU

Round 5:
PACK 3-9 TSM
KORT 5-6 AFOS
EMP 4-7 AOC
IA 7-5 TOFU

Round 6:
AFOS 2-9 PACK
AOC 6-4 TSM
TOFU 4-4 KORT
IA 4-5 EMP

Round 7:
PACK 5-3 AOC
AFOS 5-4 TOFU
TSM 1-3 IA
KORT 1-4 EMP

[qwert]

its look that only KORT secure move to next stage. PACK its close,but need win against AOC. Empire also in good position.

[lynch5762]

Agree lynchy. It's actually made me reconsider my entire philosophy on how CL5 is structured, coz this has been both intense and fun. A 'true' league may end up with a winner after just 70% of games have completed, whereas moving into a Super League (the way the Scots rearranged their 1st Division) adds a new dimension and ensures there is excitement all the way to the finishing line.

I have to be honest here... This is my first clan league event so I am not sure what the first 3 leagues were like, but It is hard to imagine anything topping this "phase II"......... In fact, I will go out on a limb to say that the remaining phases will most likely end up anti-climatic compared to this.

I don't want to take anything away from the forthcoming battles with the clans that advance but man.... How do you top this 8 clan Armageddon? (not trying to offend anyone with that word I just couldn't think of a better one ) Imagine if TSM had not had their unfortunate AWL player or if AFOS hadn't had to deal with some random assignments in away games? This phase would have been even closer still!

I don't know how a lot of you guys feel but I can tell you that a lot of us in the Pack feel a little burnt out and are ready for a break. Don't get me wrong... we enjoy the excitement of the game and competition immensely but there comes a time where CC can be a bit consuming of precious hours. That being said.... It is hard to imagine that most of us won't look forward to this same event next year. Let's face it... most of the people involved at this level have been / or will be here for a while.

I have enjoyed all of the wars that we have played in up to this point but again I have to be honest.... nothing has come close to comparing to this! I know that there is a lot of discussion about the future of clan leagues and there has also been attempts at having multiple leagues. If I could just put my two cents in... I would say that every effort should be made to agree upon one league and to try and replicate the experience that we all just had...... good times

[jetsetwilly]

Agree lynchy. It's actually made me reconsider my entire philosophy on how CL5 is structured, coz this has been both intense and fun. A 'true' league may end up with a winner after just 70% of games have completed, whereas moving into a Super League (the way the Scots rearranged their 1st Division) adds a new dimension and ensures there is excitement all the way to the finishing line.

I have to be honest here... This is my first clan league event so I am not sure what the first 3 leagues were like, but It is hard to imagine anything topping this "phase II"......... In fact, I will go out on a limb to say that the remaining phases will most likely end up anti-climatic compared to this.

I don't want to take anything away from the forthcoming battles with the clans that advance but man.... How do you top this 8 clan Armageddon? (not trying to offend anyone with that word I just couldn't think of a better one ) Imagine if TSM had not had their unfortunate AWL player or if AFOS hadn't had to deal with some random assignments in away games? This phase would have been even closer still!

I don't know how a lot of you guys feel but I can tell you that a lot of us in the Pack feel a little burnt out and are ready for a break. Don't get me wrong... we enjoy the excitement of the game and competition immensely but there comes a time where CC can be a bit consuming of precious hours. That being said.... It is hard to imagine that most of us won't look forward to this same event next year. Let's face it... most of the people involved at this level have been / or will be here for a while.

I have enjoyed all of the wars that we have played in up to this point but again I have to be honest.... nothing has come close to comparing to this! I know that there is a lot of discussion about the future of clan leagues and there has also been attempts at having multiple leagues. If I could just put my two cents in... I would say that every effort should be made to agree upon one league and to try and replicate the experience that we all just had...... good times

Have to agree, I think phases 1 and 2 have been close to perfect and as you say 3 and 4 won't compete. (Not that we are likely to be competing in them anyway ).

For me a league doesn't involve a play off and actually I would be happy to end it after phase 2 and the only thing I would do differently next to time is to make phase 2 run over a longer period but make it 18 games not 12.

Hats off to the organisers, job well done.

[Chariot of Fire]

Great post lynchy. Agree totally. And jetset said it too - no playoffs. But a way of replicating this Top 8 League next time would be a popular choice I'm sure. I know that right now the talk is of having a true league (no advancing to a 2nd phase etc) over a whole season, and it's something I have always endorsed. But now I'm not so sure coz, as I say, nothing can compare to the excitement that this Div.1 phase 2 has thrown up with all its permutations. Let's do it all again next time!

[codeblue1018]

I agree with Lynch on two fronts; A- I wouldn't want any changes to the structure of this competition; the only change I'd like to see perhaps is if we can arrange this challenge so that it doesn't go too deep into the summer months? B- as far as breaks; 100% agree. I know at TSM, we are working these challenges with almost half our roster on break and believe me, the active players need a breather as well, which will be forthcoming. We also enjoy these challenges immensely, however, nothing that I've been involved with thus far has compared to this; Thota was very close however,

[Leehar]

Stats per division would be really great. If you have time for that.

Is Swifte's article in CC Dispatch [Issue 74.5: 23-06-12] Platoon Report a bit closer to what you're looking for?

[Pirlo]

the only change I'd like to see perhaps is if we can arrange this challenge so that it doesn't go too deep into the summer months?

YES!

[tokle]

Round 1:
PACK 8-4 TOFU
AOC 5-6 IA
AFOS 5-7 EMP
TSM 5-7 KORT

Round 2:
IA 5-7 PACK
EMP 5-7 TOFU
KORT 7-5 AOC
TSM 4-8 AFOS

Round 3:
PACK 4-8 EMP
IA 4-8 KORT
TOFU 5-6 TSM
AOC 8-4 AFOS

Round 4:
KORT 7-5 PACK
TSM 6-5 EMP
AFOS 3-7 IA
AOC 4-7 TOFU

Round 5:
PACK 3-8 TSM
KORT 5-7 AFOS
EMP 4-7 AOC
IA 8-4 TOFU

Round 6:
AFOS 2-10 PACK
AOC 6-4 TSM
TOFU 5-5 KORT
IA 4-6 EMP

Round 7:
PACK 5-3 AOC
AFOS 5-5 TOFU
TSM 2-4 IA
KORT 1-5 EMP

[Sniper08]

Round 1:
PACK 8-4 TOFU
AOC 5-6 IA
AFOS 5-7 EMP
TSM 5-7 KORT

Round 2:
IA 5-7 PACK
EMP 5-7 TOFU
KORT 7-5 AOC
TSM 4-8 AFOS

Round 3:
PACK 4-8 EMP
IA 4-8 KORT
TOFU 5-6 TSM
AOC 8-4 AFOS

Round 4:
KORT 7-5 PACK
TSM 6-5 EMP
AFOS 3-7 IA
AOC 4-7 TOFU

Round 5:
PACK 3-9 TSM
KORT 5-7 AFOS
EMP 4-7 AOC
IA 8-4 TOFU

Round 6:
AFOS 2-9 PACK
AOC 6-4 TSM
TOFU 5-5 KORT
IA 4-6 EMP

Round 7:
PACK 5-3 AOC
AFOS 5-5 TOFU
TSM 2-4 IA
KORT 1-4 EMP

i think you miscounted Pack vs TSM its 3-8 atm with pack winning the final game still active, you also miscounted Pack vs AFOS its currently 8-2 with the remaining two games in Packs favour

[Swifte]

Real quick based on what tokle posted... not updated for any corrections. Still a lot of room for things to move around.

Clan______W%______Finished__Active____Wins
EMP______53.4%____73_______11_______39
KORT_____53.3%____75_______9________40
IA_______ 52.1%____73_______11_______38
PACK_____51.9%____79_______5________41
AOC______50.7%____75_______9________38
TSM______48.6%____74_______10_______36
TOFU_____47.4%____78_______6________37
AFOS_____44.2%____77_______7________34