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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 12-26

Postby Doc_Brown on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:50 pm

grifftron wrote:5 more wins for TOFU to make this win official. Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5. This will be a fun finish. If KORT pulls this win off, it might be the best comeback in the history of CC wars.

-griff


Berlin (Game 12351867) finished up in favor of TOFU, and at least one (Game 12213224) looks like a nearly certain victory for TOFU. That gets us to 28. We're still looking for those last 3 though! 8-[
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 12-26

Postby Arama86n on Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:41 am

grifftron wrote:5 more wins for TOFU to make this win official. Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5. This will be a fun finish. If KORT pulls this win off, it might be the best comeback in the history of CC wars.

-griff


Most people won't be that suprised when KoRT double their current score (12 as of this post), because it's beeen stated numerous times by both sides as well as outside observers that this will obviously be the case. "Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5" ...this statement is missing the point i feel. There is no new batch going out, all games are active and have been for a while. There are a handfull of even games from which we need a few wins to be victorious in this challenge, and therein lies the questionmark. Otherwise the majority of games are "called" for one side or another, and KoRT will be taking home a substantial amount of those left active.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 12-26

Postby josko.ri on Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:50 am

Arama86n wrote:
grifftron wrote:5 more wins for TOFU to make this win official. Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5. This will be a fun finish. If KORT pulls this win off, it might be the best comeback in the history of CC wars.

-griff


Most people won't be that suprised when KoRT double their current score (12 as of this post), because it's beeen stated numerous times by both sides as well as outside observers that this will obviously be the case. "Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5" ...this statement is missing the point i feel. There is no new batch going out, all games are active and have been for a while. There are a handfull of even games from which we need a few wins to be victorious in this challenge, and therein lies the questionmark. Otherwise the majority of games are "called" for one side or another, and KoRT will be taking home a substantial amount of those left active.

Yup, pretty exciting challenge, and it will come down to game or two to decide. So far result wise the most enjoyable challenge I have been in. OSA and THOTA challenge were also close but there after 4 rounds played in all games in last batch winner was known and here is still unknown althought last batch is deep underway. My hope is that 31st win will wait until No spoils games finish :)
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 12-26

Postby freakns on Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:32 am

Doc_Brown wrote:
grifftron wrote:5 more wins for TOFU to make this win official. Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5. This will be a fun finish. If KORT pulls this win off, it might be the best comeback in the history of CC wars.

-griff


Berlin (Game 12351867) finished up in favor of TOFU, and at least one (Game 12213224) looks like a nearly certain victory for TOFU. That gets us to 28. We're still looking for those last 3 though! 8-[

those 3 will not be easy to find! ;)
in Thysenal frog just said gg, so that might be one.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 12-26

Postby grifftron on Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:58 am

Arama86n wrote:
grifftron wrote:5 more wins for TOFU to make this win official. Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5. This will be a fun finish. If KORT pulls this win off, it might be the best comeback in the history of CC wars.

-griff


Most people won't be that suprised when KoRT double their current score (12 as of this post), because it's beeen stated numerous times by both sides as well as outside observers that this will obviously be the case. "Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5" ...this statement is missing the point i feel. There is no new batch going out, all games are active and have been for a while. There are a handfull of even games from which we need a few wins to be victorious in this challenge, and therein lies the questionmark. Otherwise the majority of games are "called" for one side or another, and KoRT will be taking home a substantial amount of those left active.


Ye. I knew it would be around 28-28ish with 5 or so (maybe less then that now) uncertain. I just love when finished games start to rally one way towards one clan, making it look like the other clan is getting destroyed (Like this war, and our war against TOFU as well). Of course we all know the score is very close, but the finished games on the score board tell us a different story and make for an interesting end (aka "come back finished") when in reality the score is tight atm and the war is almost finished. Now this doesn't happen like this in wars very often where the finished games are racked up for one side but the score is close, so these kinds of wars are fun. The Pack could not pull off the win against TOFU in this very same looking situation, so it will be interesting to see if KORT can do it! GL to a fun finish to both of you fine clans.

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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 12-26

Postby josko.ri on Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:02 am

grifftron wrote:
Arama86n wrote:
grifftron wrote:5 more wins for TOFU to make this win official. Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5. This will be a fun finish. If KORT pulls this win off, it might be the best comeback in the history of CC wars.

-griff


Most people won't be that suprised when KoRT double their current score (12 as of this post), because it's beeen stated numerous times by both sides as well as outside observers that this will obviously be the case. "Can they pull it off or is KORT going to rally in 19 before TOFU can take 5" ...this statement is missing the point i feel. There is no new batch going out, all games are active and have been for a while. There are a handfull of even games from which we need a few wins to be victorious in this challenge, and therein lies the questionmark. Otherwise the majority of games are "called" for one side or another, and KoRT will be taking home a substantial amount of those left active.


Ye. I knew it would be around 28-28ish with 5 or so (maybe less then that now) uncertain. I just love when finished games start to rally one way towards one clan, making it look like the other clan is getting destroyed (Like this war, and our war against TOFU as well). Of course we all know the score is very close, but the finished games on the score board tell us a different story and make for an interesting end (aka "come back finished") when in reality the score is tight atm and the war is almost finished. Now this doesn't happen like this in wars very often where the finished games are racked up for one side but the score is close, so these kinds of wars are fun. The Pack could not pull off the win against TOFU in this very same looking situation, so it will be interesting to see if KORT can do it! GL to a fun finish to both of you fine clans.

-griff

I remember when PACK was in similar situation (like 27/28 vs 28/29 real score) they missed some turns in undecided games. That for sure didn't help.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 12-27

Postby Chariot of Fire on Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:46 pm

Consecutive missed turns in R3 of Game 11826900 cost pink his life. That was a game changer.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby grifftron on Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:51 am

Wow. This just died. Must be very close being that it is so quiet :)
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:05 am

Everyone has disappeared, that's why!

I've been on my own all day. So lonely :(
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby hyposquasher on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:08 am

You can feel the tension mounting as these games keep proceeding, roll by roll, turn by turn, round by round :D ... Will TOFU have enough to finish things off? Will KORT have enough to mount a successful comeback?

Our thread has gotten quite silent as well although it never had the same pizazz of this one anyway. Perhaps due to no freak appearance?
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:10 am

Ah, that explains a lot. One of our absentees has just shown up and there's been a massive snowstorm in the States - power & internet out. Fen did warn us about this yesterday.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby josko.ri on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:27 am

grifftron wrote:Wow. This just died. Must be very close being that it is so quiet :)

Yup it is. Another reason that old sitting abuse habits are back in CoF's performance...
Chariot of Fire wrote:Pedro sucks at Hive and hates it. He'd be the first to admit it.

Obviously Pedro needs assistance when playing turns, he waits for CoF and today they did not have time to meet so he left the turn for CoF to be sat. The abuse that they were already crossed the line twice and was punished for that obviously does not stop when result comes close.

Game 12349146
2013-03-07 00:23:45 - Astoriana ended the turn
2013-03-07 23:53:58 - Pedronicus: CoF for Pedro (rec'd text - no internet at work)

Pedro needed sitting in this game, but somehow he was able to play his turns in other games during this day. But not for hive, there he intentionally left turn for CoF to be sat in order to get strategic advantage.

Game 12305603
2013-03-07 05:15:29 - Pedronicus received 2 troops for holding ?

Game 12384695
2013-03-07 08:18:12 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-03-07 08:18:12 - Pedronicus received 12 troops for 138 regions
2013-03-07 08:18:21 - Pedronicus deployed 8 troops on Q10
2013-03-07 08:21:21 - Pedronicus deployed 4 troops on J06
2013-03-07 08:21:26 - Pedronicus deployed 1 troops on G06
2013-03-07 08:21:35 - Pedronicus assaulted Q09 from Q10 and conquered it from Chariot of Fire
2013-03-07 08:22:07 - Pedronicus reinforced Q09 with 10 troops from Q10
2013-03-07 08:27:49 - Pedronicus reinforced Q10 with 1 troops from Q09
2013-03-07 08:29:16 - Pedronicus reinforced B13 with 1 troops from A12
2013-03-07 08:29:35 - Pedronicus reinforced B13 with 4 troops from A12
2013-03-07 08:29:49 - Pedronicus reinforced A12 with 1 troops from B13
2013-03-07 08:20:46 - Pedronicus: n11, n15, d18, e18, e19 c07, c06,c05,b05 all red
2013-03-07 08:26:41 - Pedronicus: r07 and north all red, m17,n18, o18,p19, q18 to q13, plus r17, r15, p15
2013-03-07 08:28:07 - Pedronicus: s08

So, it is proven that Pedro was online at least twice during this day, as he played turns in 2 other games in 2 different time frames. Especially important to notice is singles game, whoever read log he will see that game is not competitive but is decorative, they do not play for win, they play it in order that they place troops on some way which will be pedro's art. So, Pedro had enough time to spend more than 10 minutes in playing non-competitive game, but somehow did not have time to play Hive turn (which later lasted less than 5 minutes) but rather decided to leave the turn for CoF.

P.S. I know this is not right place for the abuse writing, but we deserve equal playing field. CoF was writing about his suspicions about my abuse in public topic, so why I would not be allowed to do so when it happens to other side? That is the only reason why I put this in public, together with reporting this to officials. CoF, it is time to stop your cheating practices ;)
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby freakns on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:31 am

hyposquasher wrote:You can feel the tension mounting as these games keep proceeding, roll by roll, turn by turn, round by round :D ... Will TOFU have enough to finish things off? Will KORT have enough to mount a successful comeback?

im saying TOFU will close this one! because im the visionary! im the prophet!hell, im the clairvoyant!

(im mean, we already have Moonchild, why shouldnt we have Clairvoyant too, it is from same album after all :P)

hyposquasher wrote:Our thread has gotten quite silent as well although it never had the same pizazz of this one anyway. Perhaps due to no freak appearance?

you guys dont like me :( also, the other clan it war wants to fist everyone, so dont blame ppl running away from it!
also, you dont have premium byatches like this two clans! im getting too much credit here, as i said earlier, i have done nothing but handle the lighter to CoF and Josko :D
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:40 am

Josko,
I realize that you are a far better player than the rest of us mere mortals, but do you find it unreasonable for some of us lowly players to ask questions of our teammates in game chat and wait for responses prior to taking our turns? I know I'm an inexperienced player and could learn a lot from you, but I'd always understood team play to be about working out a strategy with the team rather than a collection of four completely independent players doing their own thing. Surely my perspective is not unique to TOFU? Also, is it unheard of in Japan for a business to unexpectedly lose internet connectivity?
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby freakns on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:42 am

josko.ri wrote:
grifftron wrote:Wow. This just died. Must be very close being that it is so quiet :)

Yup it is. Another reason that old sitting abuse habits are back in CoF's performance...
Chariot of Fire wrote:Pedro sucks at Hive and hates it. He'd be the first to admit it.

Obviously Pedro needs assistance when playing turns, he waits for CoF and today they did not have time to meet so he left the turn for CoF to be sat. The abuse that they were already crossed the line twice and was punished for that obviously does not stop when result comes close.

Game 12349146
2013-03-07 00:23:45 - Astoriana ended the turn
2013-03-07 23:53:58 - Pedronicus: CoF for Pedro (rec'd text - no internet at work)

Pedro needed sitting in this game, but somehow he was able to play his turns in other games during this day. But not for hive, there he intentionally left turn for CoF to be sat in order to get strategic advantage.

Game 12305603
2013-03-07 05:15:29 - Pedronicus received 2 troops for holding ?

Game 12384695
2013-03-07 08:18:12 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-03-07 08:18:12 - Pedronicus received 12 troops for 138 regions
2013-03-07 08:18:21 - Pedronicus deployed 8 troops on Q10
2013-03-07 08:21:21 - Pedronicus deployed 4 troops on J06
2013-03-07 08:21:26 - Pedronicus deployed 1 troops on G06
2013-03-07 08:21:35 - Pedronicus assaulted Q09 from Q10 and conquered it from Chariot of Fire
2013-03-07 08:22:07 - Pedronicus reinforced Q09 with 10 troops from Q10
2013-03-07 08:27:49 - Pedronicus reinforced Q10 with 1 troops from Q09
2013-03-07 08:29:16 - Pedronicus reinforced B13 with 1 troops from A12
2013-03-07 08:29:35 - Pedronicus reinforced B13 with 4 troops from A12
2013-03-07 08:29:49 - Pedronicus reinforced A12 with 1 troops from B13
2013-03-07 08:20:46 - Pedronicus: n11, n15, d18, e18, e19 c07, c06,c05,b05 all red
2013-03-07 08:26:41 - Pedronicus: r07 and north all red, m17,n18, o18,p19, q18 to q13, plus r17, r15, p15
2013-03-07 08:28:07 - Pedronicus: s08

So, it is proven that Pedro was online at least twice during this day, as he played turns in 2 other games in 2 different time frames. Especially important to notice is singles game, whoever read log he will see that game is not competitive but is decorative, they do not play for win, they play it in order that they place troops on some way which will be pedro's art. So, Pedro had enough time to spend more than 10 minutes in playing non-competitive game, but somehow did not have time to play Hive turn (which later lasted less than 5 minutes) but rather decided to leave the turn for CoF.

P.S. I know this is not right place for the abuse writing, but we deserve equal playing field. CoF was writing about his suspicions about my abuse in public topic, so why I would not be allowed to do so when it happens to other side? That is the only reason why I put this in public, together with reporting this to officials. CoF, it is time to stop your cheating practices ;)

i dont want to play devils advocate here, but CoF could left him instructions and let Pedro play that move, its not like it was insanely complicated move... also, you have proclaimed you guys have pretty much won that game, so why risking it in finished game?!
im only trying to use logic here, im not saying you are wrong, im just confused... also, first thing you have done after Pedro started the move was to check his flag?! you need to check with your doctor, that much is certain :D
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby freakns on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:43 am

Doc_Brown wrote:Josko,
I realize that you are a far better player than the rest of us mere mortals, but do you find it unreasonable for some of us lowly players to ask questions of our teammates in game chat and wait for responses prior to taking our turns? I know I'm an inexperienced player and could learn a lot from you, but I'd always understood team play to be about working out a strategy with the team rather than a collection of four completely independent players doing their own thing. Surely my perspective is not unique to TOFU? Also, is it unheard of in Japan for a business to unexpectedly lose internet connectivity?

in Japan maybe is... but in Croatia sure as hell isnt ! :D
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby krikee on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:57 am

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grifftron wrote:Wow. This just died. Must be very close being that it is so quiet :)

Yup it is. Another reason that old sitting abuse habits are back in CoF's performance...
Chariot of Fire wrote:Pedro sucks at Hive and hates it. He'd be the first to admit it.

Obviously Pedro needs assistance when playing turns, he waits for CoF and today they did not have time to meet so he left the turn for CoF to be sat. The abuse that they were already crossed the line twice and was punished for that obviously does not stop when result comes close.

Game 12349146
2013-03-07 00:23:45 - Astoriana ended the turn
2013-03-07 23:53:58 - Pedronicus: CoF for Pedro (rec'd text - no internet at work)

Pedro needed sitting in this game, but somehow he was able to play his turns in other games during this day. But not for hive, there he intentionally left turn for CoF to be sat in order to get strategic advantage.

Game 12305603
2013-03-07 05:15:29 - Pedronicus received 2 troops for holding ?

Game 12384695
2013-03-07 08:18:12 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-03-07 08:18:12 - Pedronicus received 12 troops for 138 regions
2013-03-07 08:18:21 - Pedronicus deployed 8 troops on Q10
2013-03-07 08:21:21 - Pedronicus deployed 4 troops on J06
2013-03-07 08:21:26 - Pedronicus deployed 1 troops on G06
2013-03-07 08:21:35 - Pedronicus assaulted Q09 from Q10 and conquered it from Chariot of Fire
2013-03-07 08:22:07 - Pedronicus reinforced Q09 with 10 troops from Q10
2013-03-07 08:27:49 - Pedronicus reinforced Q10 with 1 troops from Q09
2013-03-07 08:29:16 - Pedronicus reinforced B13 with 1 troops from A12
2013-03-07 08:29:35 - Pedronicus reinforced B13 with 4 troops from A12
2013-03-07 08:29:49 - Pedronicus reinforced A12 with 1 troops from B13
2013-03-07 08:20:46 - Pedronicus: n11, n15, d18, e18, e19 c07, c06,c05,b05 all red
2013-03-07 08:26:41 - Pedronicus: r07 and north all red, m17,n18, o18,p19, q18 to q13, plus r17, r15, p15
2013-03-07 08:28:07 - Pedronicus: s08

So, it is proven that Pedro was online at least twice during this day, as he played turns in 2 other games in 2 different time frames. Especially important to notice is singles game, whoever read log he will see that game is not competitive but is decorative, they do not play for win, they play it in order that they place troops on some way which will be pedro's art. So, Pedro had enough time to spend more than 10 minutes in playing non-competitive game, but somehow did not have time to play Hive turn (which later lasted less than 5 minutes) but rather decided to leave the turn for CoF.

P.S. I know this is not right place for the abuse writing, but we deserve equal playing field. CoF was writing about his suspicions about my abuse in public topic, so why I would not be allowed to do so when it happens to other side? That is the only reason why I put this in public, together with reporting this to officials. CoF, it is time to stop your cheating practices ;)

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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby josko.ri on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:10 am

Doc_Brown wrote:Josko,
I realize that you are a far better player than the rest of us mere mortals, but do you find it unreasonable for some of us lowly players to ask questions of our teammates in game chat and wait for responses prior to taking our turns? I know I'm an inexperienced player and could learn a lot from you, but I'd always understood team play to be about working out a strategy with the team rather than a collection of four completely independent players doing their own thing. Surely my perspective is not unique to TOFU? Also, is it unheard of in Japan for a business to unexpectedly lose internet connectivity?

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=145859&start=255#p3229429
Read this verdict so you will see that it is not ok to wait any longer than you can be sure you will be back from job. Here are times of Pedro's playing turns during weekdays in last month Times shown GMT+9 and Pedro's UK time is GMT 0. I just want to prove that Pedro was NEVER online (in last period) in hours that were before time the sat turn was about to expire:

Game 12349146
2013-03-07 00:23:45 - Astoriana ended the turn
Now here is following analysis when Pedro plays his turns in time which is prior to Astoriana's ending turn time.
Game 12384695
2013-03-01 00:02:24 - Pedronicus missed a turn
2013-03-02 00:12:35 - Pedronicus missed a turn
2013-03-05 00:27:48 - Pedronicus missed a turn
2013-02-20 00:52:01 - Pedronicus began deploying initial troops
2013-02-27 02:23:15 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-02-20 03:49:31 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-02-23 05:03:45 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-03-03 05:49:07 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-02-21 05:49:45 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-03-07 08:18:12 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-03-06 08:53:38 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-02-24 09:51:50 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01
2013-02-22 10:25:28 - Pedronicus received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F01

Obviously, judging by 15 turns from last started Pedro's game, his habit is not to come online on GMT+9 00.23 time or before. All his turns in the analysed game, which was chosen as example because there are 15 turns played, more than in any other his recent game, were played in timeframe of like 10 hours from 00.52 and 10.25 (minus 9 to be UK time). No one of them were played in time close to 00.23, which is another example that it was known fact in advance that Pedro will not be back before that time to play that turn. Obviously, it was not waiting for teammate for advice, it was leaving turn to him to be sat in order to gain strategic advantage.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:31 am

josko.ri wrote:Obviously, judging by 15 turns from last started Pedro's game, his habit is not to come online on GMT+9 00.23 time or before. All his turns in the analysed game, which was chosen as example because there are 15 turns played, more than in any other his recent game, were played in timeframe of like 10 hours from 00.52 and 10.25 (minus 9 to be UK time). No one of them were played in time close to 00.23, which is another example that it was known fact in advance that Pedro will not be back before that time to play that turn. Obviously, it was not waiting for teammate for advice, it was leaving turn to him to be sat in order to gain strategic advantage.


Got it. Somehow you've determined that Pedro leaves work sometime between GMT+9 00.23 and GMT+9 00.52 every day and never takes his turn at work? You've also determined that CoF was lying about receiving the emergency text message from Pedro? I had heard your ability to predict outcomes of games was nearly prophetic in its accuracy. I hadn't heard that your investigative prowess and ability to evaluate the integrity of sources rivals that of InterPol.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Foxglove on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:32 am

Doc_Brown wrote:Josko,
I realize that you are a far better player than the rest of us mere mortals, but do you find it unreasonable for some of us lowly players to ask questions of our teammates in game chat and wait for responses prior to taking our turns? I know I'm an inexperienced player and could learn a lot from you, but I'd always understood team play to be about working out a strategy with the team rather than a collection of four completely independent players doing their own thing. Surely my perspective is not unique to TOFU? Also, is it unheard of in Japan for a business to unexpectedly lose internet connectivity?


Instead of being sarcastic, perhaps you should ask CoF what his thoughts are on people who wait until the last minute for instructions, and then need to have their turn sat because an emergency of one type of another arises (particularly players with a history of many sat turns). If you don't feel like asking him, and you don't feel like using the search functions provided by the forums, I would be happy to search out some quotes for you. Just so you know what to expect - he has *very, very* negative things to say about the practice itself and the people who happen to be involved.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Foxglove on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:39 am

krikee wrote:Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, my friend. Haven't you heard?


I think what's happening here is more of a return volley.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:41 am

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Doc_Brown wrote:Josko,
I realize that you are a far better player than the rest of us mere mortals, but do you find it unreasonable for some of us lowly players to ask questions of our teammates in game chat and wait for responses prior to taking our turns? I know I'm an inexperienced player and could learn a lot from you, but I'd always understood team play to be about working out a strategy with the team rather than a collection of four completely independent players doing their own thing. Surely my perspective is not unique to TOFU? Also, is it unheard of in Japan for a business to unexpectedly lose internet connectivity?


Instead of being sarcastic, perhaps you should ask CoF what his thoughts are on people who wait until the last minute for instructions, and then need to have their turn sat because an emergency of one type of another arises (particularly players with a history of many sat turns). If you don't feel like asking him, and you don't feel like using the search functions provided by the forums, I would be happy to search out some quotes for you. Just so you know what to expect - he has *very, very* negative things to say about the practice itself and the people who happen to be involved.


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I get it. There's a lot of history with the Josko/Moonchild and CoF/Pedro/others. I also totally get that Josko and CoF are probably just amping up the criticism of each other in response to the other. Frankly, I find it tedious. But, I do take issue with direct accusations of dishonesty and lying. CoF explained in the game that he got a text from Pedro that his internet was down unexpectedly. I've skipped over page after page of KORT posts defending Josko for taking Moonchild's turns for him, but my response to Josko is out of line?
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:42 am

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krikee wrote:Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, my friend. Haven't you heard?


I think what's happening here is more of a return volley.


Agreed and understood. Just don't be surprised if the smattering of pebbles you and the other Korties sent our way over the past few weeks has its own return. ;)
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby fishydance on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:50 am

At the risk of being stoned by the masses for being too flippant, can we just go back to discussing beer? That was a lot more entertaining.
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Re: [CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 14-27

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:54 am

I got a text reply from Pedro after I texted him saying he had under 2 hours, simple as that. He was unable to take his turn from work as they are without internet. I left in-game chat last night before I went to bed, so it's hardly a case of Pedro looking at the map and not knowing what to do.

And have you seen the move that was played (of course you have, you were in the game watching). Hardly a complex move was it! You're just looking for reasons to bitch and whinge.

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