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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby hyposquasher on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:10 am

Good luck everyone, and have fun :)
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:14 am

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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby freakns on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:07 pm

Bruceswar wrote:gl all organizers


It was the first day of school and a new student, Suzuki, son of a Japanese businessman, entered the fourth grade class. The teacher said, "Let's begin by reviewing some American history.

"Who said, 'Give me Liberty or give me Death' ?" She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Suzuki's

"Patrick Henry 1775," he said.

"Very good! Who said '...government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth'?"

Again, no response, except from Suzuki. "Abraham Lincoln, 1863."

The teacher snapped, "Class, you should be ashamed. Suzuki, who is new to our country, knows more about its history than you do."

She heard a loud whisper, "Screw the Japs."

"Who said that?" she demanded.

Suzuki raised his hand: "Lee Iacocca, 1982."

At that point a student said, "I'm gonna puke." The teacher glared and asked, "All right! Who said that?"

Suzuki says, "George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister, 1991."

Furious, another student yells, "Oh yeah? Suck this!"

Suzuki jumps up waving his hand and shouts, "Bill Clinton, to Monica Lewinsky, 1997!"

With near mob hysteria, someone screams, "You little s**t. If you say anything else, I'll kill you."

Suzuki yells, "Gary Condit to Chandra Levy, 2001."

At this, teacher yell "OMG, what a mess"

Suzuki: "CC players to CL5 organizers"
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Keefie on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:14 pm

It's a pity we don't have a dislike button for forum posts. Coz I REALLY dislike the last one.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Leehar on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:27 pm

Keefie wrote:It's a pity we don't have a dislike button for forum posts. Coz I REALLY dislike the last one.

dis i like
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Denise on Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:41 pm

:lol: freak. That's funny, but I can sympathize with the organizers. A little hiccup but from now on it's smooth sailing maybe.

Thanks to all the organizers for your hard work. Better the problem was noticed now and not later, after I did something.

Also, thanks to Freak for entertaining us, as always.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Arama86n on Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:46 pm

freakns wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:gl all organizers


It was the first day of school and a new student, Suzuki, son of a Japanese businessman, entered the fourth grade class. The teacher said, "Let's begin by reviewing some American history.

"Who said, 'Give me Liberty or give me Death' ?" She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Suzuki's

"Patrick Henry 1775," he said.

"Very good! Who said '...government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth'?"

Again, no response, except from Suzuki. "Abraham Lincoln, 1863."

The teacher snapped, "Class, you should be ashamed. Suzuki, who is new to our country, knows more about its history than you do."

She heard a loud whisper, "Screw the Japs."

"Who said that?" she demanded.

Suzuki raised his hand: "Lee Iacocca, 1982."

At that point a student said, "I'm gonna puke." The teacher glared and asked, "All right! Who said that?"

Suzuki says, "George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister, 1991."

Furious, another student yells, "Oh yeah? Suck this!"

Suzuki jumps up waving his hand and shouts, "Bill Clinton, to Monica Lewinsky, 1997!"

With near mob hysteria, someone screams, "You little s**t. If you say anything else, I'll kill you."

Suzuki yells, "Gary Condit to Chandra Levy, 2001."

At this, teacher yell "OMG, what a mess"

Suzuki: "CC players to CL5 organizers"


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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Qwert on Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:21 am

all games from round 1 and round 2 are created.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Qwert on Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:13 pm

im appeal to all Division Directors to watch in what round are games labeled. Right now in 5 groups, you have some games who are labeled in wrong rounds(except QG5 who have all correct)
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby chapcrap on Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:33 pm

qwert wrote:in one week player can play maximum 6 games, and consider that one week have 2 round, these its split even (3+3) , its good explained in rules

No, that's not a good explanation. It's best to say 3 games per round is the maximum. Saying 6 per week makes it sound like they can be split up.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby jetsetwilly on Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:47 pm

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qwert wrote:in one week player can play maximum 6 games, and consider that one week have 2 round, these its split even (3+3) , its good explained in rules

No, that's not a good explanation. It's best to say 3 games per round is the maximum. Saying 6 per week makes it sound like they can be split up.


I did make it a little clearer in the rules within each individual thread where it says:

"In one game week,one player can play a maximum of 6 games. One week consists of two rounds and the player can play a maximum of 3 games in each round. "

Qwert, maybe just copy my text to ensure there is no confusion but nobody has made a mistake that I've noticed yet.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Qwert on Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:47 pm

well first results are coming
present results
QG1
LEG-CF 1-0
DBC-CF 1-0

QG2
LOTZ-MB 1-0
EMP-TLW 0-2
MYTH-WAR 0-1

QG3
FOED-SOH 1-0
SOH-UM8 1-0

QG4
AOC-FALL 0-1

QG5
IA-MD 1-0
MM-AQOH 0-1
OTP-AQOH 2-0

QG6
HH-DB 1-0
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby ViperOverLord on Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:40 pm

I think the seeding system let us down. MM was seeded fifth and all of sudden we're playing against a bunch of brigs and colonels. Ah well. I guess it'll all smooth out in the long run. Maybe we're not a premier clan yet anyhow.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby freakns on Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:06 am

well, maybe they improved? ;)

seeding were taken from last clan league, so i think its fair. last year they werent that good, so they got worse seeding... also, bunch of them being brigs and colonels doesnt necessary mean they are top team players. maybe they are good, maybe they arent... dunno. will see when we played them :)
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby ViperOverLord on Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:44 pm

freakns wrote:well, maybe they improved? ;)

seeding were taken from last clan league, so i think its fair. last year they werent that good, so they got worse seeding... also, bunch of them being brigs and colonels doesnt necessary mean they are top team players. maybe they are good, maybe they arent... dunno. will see when we played them :)


That's my point. It was based on last year, but it didn't take into account serious upgrades. But, this is a first year set-up and the leagues will sort it out in the long run. I think it seriously inhibited our shot at premier league though with glitches like that; and could even push us back into a worse league.

You don't want you 5 seed being more like a 3 seed or it's gonna be so much more tougher.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby IcePack on Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:38 pm

Looking to be a solid set vs AOC at their home. Most games appear to be neck and neck.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby freakns on Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:52 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:
freakns wrote:well, maybe they improved? ;)

seeding were taken from last clan league, so i think its fair. last year they werent that good, so they got worse seeding... also, bunch of them being brigs and colonels doesnt necessary mean they are top team players. maybe they are good, maybe they arent... dunno. will see when we played them :)


That's my point. It was based on last year, but it didn't take into account serious upgrades. But, this is a first year set-up and the leagues will sort it out in the long run. I think it seriously inhibited our shot at premier league though with glitches like that; and could even push us back into a worse league.

You don't want you 5 seed being more like a 3 seed or it's gonna be so much more tougher.

what youre missing here is that your main problem IS the 3 seed :P
Q5 group proves to be very solid... i think even AQOH have chance for decent result(well, based on their performance against us). you should be happy for it, its more fun this way!
also, you are unsure about seeding, while out of 8 home games you play 7 flat rate games?! thats just playing for lucky sets...
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Qwert on Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:53 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:
freakns wrote:well, maybe they improved? ;)

seeding were taken from last clan league, so i think its fair. last year they werent that good, so they got worse seeding... also, bunch of them being brigs and colonels doesnt necessary mean they are top team players. maybe they are good, maybe they arent... dunno. will see when we played them :)


That's my point. It was based on last year, but it didn't take into account serious upgrades. But, this is a first year set-up and the leagues will sort it out in the long run. I think it seriously inhibited our shot at premier league though with glitches like that; and could even push us back into a worse league.

You don't want you 5 seed being more like a 3 seed or it's gonna be so much more tougher.


Well MM are even in F400 seeded belove MD. I think that each group are good balanced, if they have brigadiers and colonels why they not move up in F400?
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby ViperOverLord on Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:44 pm

freakns wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
freakns wrote:well, maybe they improved? ;)

seeding were taken from last clan league, so i think its fair. last year they werent that good, so they got worse seeding... also, bunch of them being brigs and colonels doesnt necessary mean they are top team players. maybe they are good, maybe they arent... dunno. will see when we played them :)


That's my point. It was based on last year, but it didn't take into account serious upgrades. But, this is a first year set-up and the leagues will sort it out in the long run. I think it seriously inhibited our shot at premier league though with glitches like that; and could even push us back into a worse league.

You don't want you 5 seed being more like a 3 seed or it's gonna be so much more tougher.

what youre missing here is that your main problem IS the 3 seed :P
Q5 group proves to be very solid... i think even AQOH have chance for decent result(well, based on their performance against us). you should be happy for it, its more fun this way!
also, you are unsure about seeding, while out of 8 home games you play 7 flat rate games?! thats just playing for lucky sets...


I don't buy into the ideal, that flat rate is about fostering luck. Playing flat rate requires a certain sort of strategy just like no spoils. I think escalating is closer to luck, b/c you can be dominating and then a game can turn on a dime much easier. Lucky turn-ins factor much more in that case. But to me saying flat rate is a matter of luck is almost akin to saying dice is a matter of luck. Yes there's luck involved, but you can never take an element of luck out of the game. I may be in the minority with my viewpoint, but that is how I see it.

As far as being disappointed with the draw; I don't know. Something fun about the challenge like you say. But I would have preferred a more even draw was my point. Nothing is ever perfect though and I never disagree with how they did it. I'm really saying MM slipped through the cracks with the way it was done. I think we played them a bit in the past and they were much more ho hum. And when I saw it was a five seed, I held certain maps in reserve, hoping we could get the 5-3 win handily and then save some of aces up our sleeve for 1-3. But then I got to the games and I was like hold crap! What's with all the wings and crowns! They're looking about like a top 11-15 clan and got a five seed, which is supposed to be 25-30. So that does make it considerably tougher for us than if we were in another group.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby freakns on Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:28 pm

you may be in minority or majority, doesnt matter, simple statistic will tell you flat is about luck much more then esc. yes, this is dice based game so luck will be included no matter what map/settings you chose, but every skill player will try to find a way to decrees element of luck. this is why you have ppl who are more skilled in unlimited settings, you have players who are more skilled in adj, you have ppl who are more skilled in esc, and players who are more skilled in no spoils. but since i have played this game i have never, ever heard about someone being skilled in flat rate. i do use flat rate too, but only in special occasions, not in a million years i would use it on standard map.

as for other thing, you and i are completely different in this regard... when i saw bunch of colonels/brigadiers, i say "woot, woot, more free points!!!", not "holly crap, these guys know how to play". anyhow, we are up against them next round, ill get a chance to have some of those free points for myself, so dont take too much out of them :P
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby ViperOverLord on Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:09 am

freakns wrote:you may be in minority or majority, doesnt matter, simple statistic will tell you flat is about luck much more then esc. yes, this is dice based game so luck will be included no matter what map/settings you chose, but every skill player will try to find a way to decrees element of luck. this is why you have ppl who are more skilled in unlimited settings, you have players who are more skilled in adj, you have ppl who are more skilled in esc, and players who are more skilled in no spoils. but since i have played this game i have never, ever heard about someone being skilled in flat rate. i do use flat rate too, but only in special occasions, not in a million years i would use it on standard map.

as for other thing, you and i are completely different in this regard... when i saw bunch of colonels/brigadiers, i say "woot, woot, more free points!!!", not "holly crap, these guys know how to play". anyhow, we are up against them next round, ill get a chance to have some of those free points for myself, so dont take too much out of them :P


I disagree. If anything, flat can help weather the bad luck of going 2nd, getting a bonus down, using it to target a player quickly, building in certain areas to prevent someone from carding and smothering much like in no spoils, only quicker. And in that regard, it's not always about getting an advantage as much as preventing another team from resting back and cheesing if they start with an advantage. I think players who are used to playing no spoils and keying in on a weak link get their ire up when they actually have to deal with the skill of flat. I've seen it happen plenty. Plenty of crying and dismissing the flat luck when they just got beat and we'ren't so dominant after all. You pretend that flat makes a game about luck and I'm here to tell you otherwise. Flat is a skillset like any other setting. It may not be as potent as other settings in your mind's eye. But it requires strategy.

As far as playing higher ranked players. I'm no dummy. That's just generally going to translate into a tougher game b/c that weak link(s) won't be there. I don't consider it free points. I do understand that it can be better for the ranking....so I get your point there.

But as I was saying. We have a freaking tough 5 seed we're playing against! Feels like playing a 3 seed and stuff didn't go our way in that match-up, so now we have to dig our way out of a hole against tough competition.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Qwert on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:06 pm

present results (wow so many interesting matches)
QG1
GR-DBC 1-2
PIG-LEG 4-0
PIG-TOFU 1-1
LEG-CF 2-3
TOFU-GR 2-1
DBC-CF 1-2

QG2
LOTZ-MB 6-0
EMP-TLW 1-2
MYTH-WAR 3-2
MYTH-EMP 1-1
WAR-MB 3-2
TLW-LOTZ 3-2

QG3
FOED-SOH 5-1
AFOS-FOED 2-0
ID-DYN 4-0
SOH-UM8 1-2
DYN-UM8 2-3
ID-AFOS 1-3

QG4
FALL-RA 2-1
AOC-FALL 0-2
VDLL-AOK 1-3
RA-AOK 1-1
LOW-VDLL 1-1
LOW-AOC 1-1

QG5
TFFS-OTP 2-2
IA-MD 2-0
MM-AQOH 2-3
TFFS-IA 0-2
MD-MM 2-3
OTP-AQOH 3-3

QG6
LHDD-DB 2-3
OSA-HH 3-1
OSA-KORT 0-1
HH-DB 3-2
KORT-TNC 2-1
TNC-LHDD 1-0
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Qwert on Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:46 am

well i realised that add link will be very hard,because many people dont put correct labels, right now i have these combinations
Correct label are
- [R1]

wrong
- [R1 ]
-(RD1)
-(Rd1)
-- [R1]
- Round 4
- [RD4]
- RD 1
- Round 2
- 2013 [CL5][QG4]-R4
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its look that for Qualification phase i will not add links, for now only QG5 are totaly correct ,probably because benga very good observe all games ,and he even put links in third post, so maybe all other DD need to do same like benga did.
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby Leehar on Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:40 pm

Hey, no need to give all the credit to benga :P
It could just be that they all did it right because I had to recreate all their games for the first batch ;)
They learnt their lesson faster than the others :)



qwert wrote:well i realised that add link will be very hard,because many people dont put correct labels, right now i have these combinations
Correct label are
- [R1]

wrong
- [R1 ]
-(RD1)
-(Rd1)
-- [R1]
- Round 4
- [RD4]
- RD 1
- Round 2
- 2013 [CL5][QG4]-R4
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its look that for Qualification phase i will not add links, for now only QG5 are totaly correct ,probably because benga very good observe all games ,and he even put links in third post, so maybe all other DD need to do same like benga did.


For the Labels, could you perhaps do a search for all game labels with "1"? As a stopgap measure.
Except for that last lengthy one, it should be able to retrieve all the other games.

We should send this post of yours as a pm to all clan contacts tho. Need to get everyone on the same page
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Re: [CL5]-Clan League 5- main page

Postby benga on Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:59 pm

Lee is right, but also wrong :)

qwert wants to give direct links to games, and this can't been done like that, as far as I know
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