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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby chapcrap on Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:35 am

jetsetwilly wrote:If 2 clans agree to deviate on this point then that clearly does no harm.

This is a point where I differ. I want this thing to not drag on for ages. Which is why I care more about the away teams getting it filled quickly more than the home teams having the games filled. But, either way, I'd like to see the game joining enforced stricter so that the tournament moves at a quicker pace. If everyone is taking an extra day or two throughout the war to do things, that's gonna add up to an extra month by the end of the tournament.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

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chapcrap wrote:
jetsetwilly wrote:If 2 clans agree to deviate on this point then that clearly does no harm.

This is a point where I differ. I want this thing to not drag on for ages. Which is why I care more about the away teams getting it filled quickly more than the home teams having the games filled. But, either way, I'd like to see the game joining enforced stricter so that the tournament moves at a quicker pace. If everyone is taking an extra day or two throughout the war to do things, that's gonna add up to an extra month by the end of the tournament.


Sorry to be clear, I agree on a strict schedule for away teams joining, just not on the fact that all home invites should be accepted before exchange, simply sent. Clearly a home team invitation should not drag on and should certainly be accepted before the away team deadline.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby eddie2 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:57 pm

Dako wrote:
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Dako wrote:Yes, I saw that both clans thinks that's a silly rule but AKA is actually following it while KORT doesn't. That is what concerns me most.

In time of exchanging games in set 1, all 10 AKA's games had invites sent but no single game was joined by home team.

It is your false statement that AKA followed this rule while KORT did not. For me it is no wonder that you are following KORT everywhere trying to write something negative about us, even when your statements are false like this one =D>

There was no traction about batch 1 games so it passed me that AKA games were not filled on the moment. I cannot confirm this now and it has never been mentioned in the forums before. And don't make this personal josko, it is very low and just shows that you have no argument but coming down to name calling.



i will voice up to this one...

games were due by the 26th may i did not know this and it was not posted in the aka kort thread... bruce sent me the games in last few minutes of the 26th unsigned upto invites only.. bruce then asked me in live chat for aka games asap which i created them straight away and sent him them.... i then invited to both home and away games at same time on the night of the 27th i seen someone in live chat who had not signed upto a kort home game and asked if they were going to join (this was because i was sending aka players in the games pms to say game had started.) i was told they were waiting for aka members to join there home games first so they could get screen shots. (which fog rule was offered to them but refused.)
that is what i was complaining about in the first exchange it wasn't us both being late (due to lack of dates in the thread.) it was the fact that kort players were not signing up to games to get screen shots. by having last member join there home game....
on that day i told bruce if you are busy and need extra time drop me a pm before the due time... this he did not do he manipulated razorvich one hour before the deadline when invites had not been sent.. then today again bruce sent me games not completely signed up to.. so i visited live chat to give him the option to let me know.. (even though it was after the deadline.)
i then posted in the thread highlighting that there was no appology for being late on sending games fully signed upto..
and not even a pm to say sorry will have it done asap..

which he could of done then there would of been no drama instead he baits and flames me..
You really are a piece of work... Congrats you found 1 invite yet to be accepted. Want a cookie? Stop trying to cause BS and just play your games.


and you can check with nicky 15 i was not reporting them for breaking the rule until bruces post. i gave him the option to say sorry for not having it done. and you can ask nicky15 that one because i posted aka complaint the same min bruce posted his flame instead of sorry.

so who is the one in the wrong me for wanting a appology for kort showing up late again or kort for me highlighting it again...

thats enough from me anyway because really the rule should not be there if not being backed up. and players who highlight it are being punished. while players who break it are not.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby josko.ri on Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:07 pm

On the time when you submitted report that we broke rules because one slot of our home games were not joined (so you are handicapped that you cannot know our roster in that game?) KORT joined 10,75 games of batch 2 (9,75 from home set and 1 from tie breaker), while AKA joined their 10 home games. In this moment KORT joined all 10 home games and tie breaker, while You joined only your 10 home games. Isn't that unfair advantage given to AKA, that you know who you will play vs in tie breaker game while we do not know, so you can manage your team and time of joining according to your preferences while we cannot do it?

How it is fair that you can see 10,75 games of our roster, and we can see only 10 games of your roster? Why did not you asked for tie breaker to be joined (invites sent) at the same time, but you rather gained unfair advantage that you knew information of our tie breaker roster first while we did not know information of your roster for that game?

If you want to be picky, I can be also. We revealed to you 0,75 players of our roster MORE than you revealed to us in batch 2, and you complain that we got unfair advantage? Mr. Fairness2, If you want to be fair and equal to everyone, why you did not suggest that we send invites for tie breaker at the same time but you rather gained unfair advantage that you know our roster for that game before we know your roster?
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Vid_FISO on Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:42 pm

What difference does it make as to WHO is playing in any given game? The bigger the ranks, the more points on offer!
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby eddie2 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:17 pm

In this moment KORT joined all 10 home games and tie breaker, while You joined only your 10 home games. Isn't that unfair advantage given to AKA, that you know who you will play vs in tie breaker game while we do not know, so you can manage your team and time of joining according to your preferences while we cannot do it?


lets take this to the kort aka thread this does not need talked about here.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Qwert on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:21 am

i dont understand why games need to be split in two sets?
If we want to speed up tournament, then its better if bouth clans agree, that all 41 games be created in same time.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Nicky15 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:45 am

qwert wrote:i dont understand why games need to be split in two sets?
If we want to speed up tournament, then its better if bouth clans agree, that all 41 games be created in same time.


If both clans agreed. Then this would be fine.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:43 pm

Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Foxglove on Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:59 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$


It's probably more to your benefit anyway to focus your efforts on your games instead of war thread posts. ;)

I can't imagine anyone actually inviting eddie to participate in their war thread, and I sincerely hope you don't do so when our match begins!
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby freakns on Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:01 am

Foxglove wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$


It's probably more to your benefit anyway to focus your efforts on your games instead of war thread posts. ;)

I can't imagine anyone actually inviting eddie to participate in their war thread, and I sincerely hope you don't do so when our match begins!

i will do that!
if we beat OSA, and you ladies beat both AKA and TFFS, and ofc eddie agrees, i hope he will be on our side in possible Otpisani vs Cows war thread ! :D
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby eddie2 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:03 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$


lol patrickaa i would love to but i will not play against any member of kort again. they actually disgust me in how they let there leadership run the war showing no respect to the other clan... even now the thread op does not hold the correct details. it has just been copied from the main thread. there was no fog rule in the war.....

show: rule

does not mean anything if not enforced at the time especially when all the clan had to do was say sorry not signed up to yet. communication is the key to anything and what caused 50 percent of the trouble...

then you got the sitting rule for clans which is stricter than site rules and does not recieve a ban. 3 times in the war players had been online playing games during the time they could of taken there shot only for them to have a sitter taking there shot in the closing minutes.
3. Emergency cover may be given if the person is in danger of missing a turn. A person will be in danger of missing a turn when:


this is another rule that means nothing all it does is give certain players a thing to say well we took that turn within the 2 hour time. and actually goes against why it was introduced.

then we have another thing from this same rule...
5. You must not be in another persons account for any reason, other than to cover turns during a prearranged sit, or in an emergency situation. Adding to chat in a game you are not in for example will not be allowed. You must also not give permission for anyone to wander in and out of your account at their will. Take care of your account. What happens with it is your responsibility.


now this rule means nothing because while aka and kort were talking about the closing of the threads one of the members accounts was jumping from usa to canada then back to usa... when i highlighted this because i wanted to know if we were actually talking with the said member i got this response.
I checked that time frame.
taken no turns here. Looks like normal team chatters

if anyone wants to see this which is screen shot send me a pm.
so someone else signed into another account to do team chat weather this was in all games or a non clan game who knows but was still against the rule above and site rules for sitting.

so the only advice i can give you patricaa is play the games and if you think you are being unfairly treated by kort just ignore it and play on dont pull them for anything wrong don't involve the organizers because really it will be a waste of time and effort because kort is run by the person who created the rules and knows what rules he can bend to the max and not be punished for them

and this is my final post on any of the kort aka issue and my words of advice to any clan that faces them.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Foxglove on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:49 pm

You're a broken record, eddie. I can't even imagine how much of the clan director's time you must have wasted with your repetitive, spurious accusations. Cut it out. Are you trying to get every thread in the clan area permanently locked?
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby jetsetwilly on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:51 pm

eddie2 wrote:
and this is my final post on any of the kort aka issue and my words of advice to any clan that faces them.


Of course it is.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Shannon Apple on Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:13 pm

Reported. Flaming KoRT again. This is getting ridiculous. I do have him foed, but someone linked the 1 post. We do not deserve this!
I am not going to respond to anything said, because if I do I will get accused of flaming.
I am just tired.
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Postby iAmCaffeine on Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:32 pm

You would only get accused of flaming if you were flaming. Haters gonna hate.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Qwert on Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:47 pm

man, instead that this topic ,become related on Results, change of players, news abouth schedules, this become arguing arena.
Every problem need to be solve wia PM with CD, no need to read pointless and irelevant post.
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Postby eddie2 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:47 pm

Sorry i think people misunderstood my post.

Ok 2 clans said they would like me 2 get involved in threads when they face kort. I replied to that with my reason not mentioning names.

The part about late games was to try get the rule worded properly or changed for the next rounds where if a clan is late once then if late again in that war they are punished for it.

As for the sitting part this has been dealt with but there is a loophole in the rule which makes the rule needing altered for future issues.

Sorryif you felt offended shannon but i stated how i felt and didnt name the people who made me fell that way about kort.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby freakns on Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:13 pm

eddie, i can not guarantee for patrickaa, but im pretty sure i was joking!

and take this as friendly suggestion. your language towards KORT was/is vicious, so just stop. you are trying to find any silly thing and accuse them for something, its just not healthy. are you the only one to be blamed? ofc not, there are many highly dislikable persons in KORT, mainly the most vocal ones, but truth to be told, they were provoked by your constant slandering. you may not like how they handle their business, but its not up to you or me to judge them for it. no serious rule was broken, and yet we got ourselves 40 pages of mutual accusations(with not more then 5 funny posts(even rimes were mostly bad... except the one i think cowboyz posted, which was fucking brilliant but stupid censorship wiped it :( ), and not a single picture of naked women). next time when you think about replying, just think of that, and post a smiley.

and everyone, please remember, this is still a game, so try to enjoy it!
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Qwert on Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:17 pm

freakns wrote:eddie, i can not guarantee for patrickaa, but im pretty sure i was joking!

and take this as friendly suggestion. your language towards KORT was/is vicious, so just stop. you are trying to find any silly thing and accuse them for something, its just not healthy. are you the only one to be blamed? ofc not, there are many highly dislikable persons in KORT, mainly the most vocal ones, but truth to be told, they were provoked by your constant slandering. you may not like how they handle their business, but its not up to you or me to judge them for it. no serious rule was broken, and yet we got ourselves 40 pages of mutual accusations(with not more then 5 funny posts(even rimes were mostly bad... except the one i think cowboyz posted, which was fucking brilliant but stupid censorship wiped it :( ), and not a single picture of naked women). next time when you think about replying, just think of that, and post a smiley. And qwert had best rimes in this topic.

and everyone, please remember, this is still a game, so try to enjoy it!


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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby josko.ri on Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:05 pm

jetsetwilly wrote:
eddie2 wrote:
and this is my final post on any of the kort aka issue and my words of advice to any clan that faces them.


Of course it is.

I already lost count on how many "final" posts you wrote my friend ;) If you spend so much time on some strategy workshop with your clan how many time you spent for making spurious accusations, it would not happen that we will easy win hive, regardless of your 2 three carder mixed sets conparing to our one red set, and your for example breaking our bonus 3v1,2 with killIng teammate on the way. I know, you are man who desperately need attention and when you cannot get attention by your results (who would give you attention for winning 10 of 41 games?) then this is the only way left to you ;)
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby HardAttack on Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:50 pm

eddie2 wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$


lol patrickaa i would love to but i will not play against any member of kort again. they actually disgust me in how they let there leadership run the war showing no respect to the other clan... even now the thread op does not hold the correct details. it has just been copied from the main thread. there was no fog rule in the war.....

show: rule

does not mean anything if not enforced at the time especially when all the clan had to do was say sorry not signed up to yet. communication is the key to anything and what caused 50 percent of the trouble...

then you got the sitting rule for clans which is stricter than site rules and does not recieve a ban. 3 times in the war players had been online playing games during the time they could of taken there shot only for them to have a sitter taking there shot in the closing minutes.
3. Emergency cover may be given if the person is in danger of missing a turn. A person will be in danger of missing a turn when:


this is another rule that means nothing all it does is give certain players a thing to say well we took that turn within the 2 hour time. and actually goes against why it was introduced.

then we have another thing from this same rule...
5. You must not be in another persons account for any reason, other than to cover turns during a prearranged sit, or in an emergency situation. Adding to chat in a game you are not in for example will not be allowed. You must also not give permission for anyone to wander in and out of your account at their will. Take care of your account. What happens with it is your responsibility.


now this rule means nothing because while aka and kort were talking about the closing of the threads one of the members accounts was jumping from usa to canada then back to usa... when i highlighted this because i wanted to know if we were actually talking with the said member i got this response.
I checked that time frame.
taken no turns here. Looks like normal team chatters

if anyone wants to see this which is screen shot send me a pm.
so someone else signed into another account to do team chat weather this was in all games or a non clan game who knows but was still against the rule above and site rules for sitting.

so the only advice i can give you patricaa is play the games and if you think you are being unfairly treated by kort just ignore it and play on dont pull them for anything wrong don't involve the organizers because really it will be a waste of time and effort because kort is run by the person who created the rules and knows what rules he can bend to the max and not be punished for them

and this is my final post on any of the kort aka issue and my words of advice to any clan that faces them.


REPORTED of Flame, baiting, being rude, bringing up issues back and back again to cause trouble in every possible thread, being unrespectful to community, being intentionally annoying...

Reasons of reporting;

1/ These accuasitions are basing full of lies, basing points which have been brought into the CDs attention previously in KORT AKA thread and caused a lot of flames there so got that thread locked. Why once back now we have got this bullshit once back again here ? Isnt it flame ? Someone, excluding eddie2 himself, please explain what is the point flaming every possible where ? CDs have come to a conclusion already about these untrue/wrong/false accuasitions...So what is the point bringing all of these previously presented flames once back again here ? This is if he is rising against everyone, rising against all KORT members, rising agaainst CDs and their given final desicions and more...

2/ The language eddie2 uses over the members of one of the most respected and successfull clan is real real low, dishonourfull, not good sport...
He all the times does it...This has to stop...Someone should come around give him the neccesary warning or punishment.

3/ He is telling he does not want to play any KORT ppl anymore...How funny is this ? Dont do it, change your mind please, KORT ppl are so so sad and regretful, please consider playing with them again mate!!! They have only single reason being in conquer club is this; playing with eddie2, do not hold them back from this please, we all beg you mate. How hilarious !!!

4/ you wonder why i am here and speaking against you, dont you ? Regardless of i am in or not in a clan, clan world/scene is my hobby and sure one day i ll be in a clan back again. This is my fun, interest...I dont have to explain anyone why i write anywhere...
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby HardAttack on Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:34 pm

this is your live chat lines eddie;
21/06/2013 19:24:03 ‹eddie2› hey bg blake i hope you gonna ban this player.
21/06/2013 19:24:05 ‹eddie2› viewtopic.php?f=441&t=192027#p4208992
21/06/2013 19:24:26 ‹eddie2› thread was closed so he takes baits over to a new war im not even running


now tell me,
if that thread is closed and you VERY WELL KNOW IT, to such a degree to complain about my FUNNY/JOKE post that in return resulted me 24 hours forum ban,

why on the hell, you now bring very the same points those have been dealt with and reached to a conclusion, caused a lot of flames already in KORT AKA thread and got that thread locked, tell me, what sort of right is that to prevent me post/make joke in another thread but strangely that same right to allow you to post in almost every threads ?

This question, i am not asking only to eddie2 himself, i am asking this to moderators who has issued my ban...
I deserved my ban, i am not crying out of it, do not miss my point please, my point is, very well same looking cases, so eddie should recieve something i had recieved i guess, if not, where is the fairness ?
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby patrickaa317 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:44 pm

I was joking and now I realize I should have said anything at all. It appears my joke threw some gasoline on a fire that was put out due to the CD's locking that AKA/KORT thread. Everyone should stop arguing in this one to prevent it from also being locked. Except Qwert fixing the one post saying that he has the best rhymes. That was funny.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby chemefreak on Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:58 am

Everyone play nice. I am going to bed.
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