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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby chapcrap on Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:35 am

jetsetwilly wrote:If 2 clans agree to deviate on this point then that clearly does no harm.

This is a point where I differ. I want this thing to not drag on for ages. Which is why I care more about the away teams getting it filled quickly more than the home teams having the games filled. But, either way, I'd like to see the game joining enforced stricter so that the tournament moves at a quicker pace. If everyone is taking an extra day or two throughout the war to do things, that's gonna add up to an extra month by the end of the tournament.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby jetsetwilly on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:54 am

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jetsetwilly wrote:If 2 clans agree to deviate on this point then that clearly does no harm.

This is a point where I differ. I want this thing to not drag on for ages. Which is why I care more about the away teams getting it filled quickly more than the home teams having the games filled. But, either way, I'd like to see the game joining enforced stricter so that the tournament moves at a quicker pace. If everyone is taking an extra day or two throughout the war to do things, that's gonna add up to an extra month by the end of the tournament.


Sorry to be clear, I agree on a strict schedule for away teams joining, just not on the fact that all home invites should be accepted before exchange, simply sent. Clearly a home team invitation should not drag on and should certainly be accepted before the away team deadline.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby eddie2 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:57 pm

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josko.ri wrote:
Dako wrote:Yes, I saw that both clans thinks that's a silly rule but AKA is actually following it while KORT doesn't. That is what concerns me most.

In time of exchanging games in set 1, all 10 AKA's games had invites sent but no single game was joined by home team.

It is your false statement that AKA followed this rule while KORT did not. For me it is no wonder that you are following KORT everywhere trying to write something negative about us, even when your statements are false like this one =D>

There was no traction about batch 1 games so it passed me that AKA games were not filled on the moment. I cannot confirm this now and it has never been mentioned in the forums before. And don't make this personal josko, it is very low and just shows that you have no argument but coming down to name calling.



i will voice up to this one...

games were due by the 26th may i did not know this and it was not posted in the aka kort thread... bruce sent me the games in last few minutes of the 26th unsigned upto invites only.. bruce then asked me in live chat for aka games asap which i created them straight away and sent him them.... i then invited to both home and away games at same time on the night of the 27th i seen someone in live chat who had not signed upto a kort home game and asked if they were going to join (this was because i was sending aka players in the games pms to say game had started.) i was told they were waiting for aka members to join there home games first so they could get screen shots. (which fog rule was offered to them but refused.)
that is what i was complaining about in the first exchange it wasn't us both being late (due to lack of dates in the thread.) it was the fact that kort players were not signing up to games to get screen shots. by having last member join there home game....
on that day i told bruce if you are busy and need extra time drop me a pm before the due time... this he did not do he manipulated razorvich one hour before the deadline when invites had not been sent.. then today again bruce sent me games not completely signed up to.. so i visited live chat to give him the option to let me know.. (even though it was after the deadline.)
i then posted in the thread highlighting that there was no appology for being late on sending games fully signed upto..
and not even a pm to say sorry will have it done asap..

which he could of done then there would of been no drama instead he baits and flames me..
You really are a piece of work... Congrats you found 1 invite yet to be accepted. Want a cookie? Stop trying to cause BS and just play your games.


and you can check with nicky 15 i was not reporting them for breaking the rule until bruces post. i gave him the option to say sorry for not having it done. and you can ask nicky15 that one because i posted aka complaint the same min bruce posted his flame instead of sorry.

so who is the one in the wrong me for wanting a appology for kort showing up late again or kort for me highlighting it again...

thats enough from me anyway because really the rule should not be there if not being backed up. and players who highlight it are being punished. while players who break it are not.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby josko.ri on Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:07 pm

On the time when you submitted report that we broke rules because one slot of our home games were not joined (so you are handicapped that you cannot know our roster in that game?) KORT joined 10,75 games of batch 2 (9,75 from home set and 1 from tie breaker), while AKA joined their 10 home games. In this moment KORT joined all 10 home games and tie breaker, while You joined only your 10 home games. Isn't that unfair advantage given to AKA, that you know who you will play vs in tie breaker game while we do not know, so you can manage your team and time of joining according to your preferences while we cannot do it?

How it is fair that you can see 10,75 games of our roster, and we can see only 10 games of your roster? Why did not you asked for tie breaker to be joined (invites sent) at the same time, but you rather gained unfair advantage that you knew information of our tie breaker roster first while we did not know information of your roster for that game?

If you want to be picky, I can be also. We revealed to you 0,75 players of our roster MORE than you revealed to us in batch 2, and you complain that we got unfair advantage? Mr. Fairness2, If you want to be fair and equal to everyone, why you did not suggest that we send invites for tie breaker at the same time but you rather gained unfair advantage that you know our roster for that game before we know your roster?
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Vid_FISO on Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:42 pm

What difference does it make as to WHO is playing in any given game? The bigger the ranks, the more points on offer!
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby eddie2 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:17 pm

In this moment KORT joined all 10 home games and tie breaker, while You joined only your 10 home games. Isn't that unfair advantage given to AKA, that you know who you will play vs in tie breaker game while we do not know, so you can manage your team and time of joining according to your preferences while we cannot do it?


lets take this to the kort aka thread this does not need talked about here.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Qwert on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:21 am

i dont understand why games need to be split in two sets?
If we want to speed up tournament, then its better if bouth clans agree, that all 41 games be created in same time.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Nicky15 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:45 am

qwert wrote:i dont understand why games need to be split in two sets?
If we want to speed up tournament, then its better if bouth clans agree, that all 41 games be created in same time.


If both clans agreed. Then this would be fine.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:43 pm

Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Foxglove on Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:59 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$


It's probably more to your benefit anyway to focus your efforts on your games instead of war thread posts. ;)

I can't imagine anyone actually inviting eddie to participate in their war thread, and I sincerely hope you don't do so when our match begins!
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby freakns on Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:01 am

Foxglove wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$


It's probably more to your benefit anyway to focus your efforts on your games instead of war thread posts. ;)

I can't imagine anyone actually inviting eddie to participate in their war thread, and I sincerely hope you don't do so when our match begins!

i will do that!
if we beat OSA, and you ladies beat both AKA and TFFS, and ofc eddie agrees, i hope he will be on our side in possible Otpisani vs Cows war thread ! :D
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby eddie2 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:03 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:Looks like we'll be taking on KORT next round. Unfortunately TFFS will not be able to provide the banter thread that AKA has. Perhaps we can hire Eddie to watch the clock to the minute on all the games to ensure no major or minor infractions occur... :-$


lol patrickaa i would love to but i will not play against any member of kort again. they actually disgust me in how they let there leadership run the war showing no respect to the other clan... even now the thread op does not hold the correct details. it has just been copied from the main thread. there was no fog rule in the war.....

show: rule

does not mean anything if not enforced at the time especially when all the clan had to do was say sorry not signed up to yet. communication is the key to anything and what caused 50 percent of the trouble...

then you got the sitting rule for clans which is stricter than site rules and does not recieve a ban. 3 times in the war players had been online playing games during the time they could of taken there shot only for them to have a sitter taking there shot in the closing minutes.
3. Emergency cover may be given if the person is in danger of missing a turn. A person will be in danger of missing a turn when:


this is another rule that means nothing all it does is give certain players a thing to say well we took that turn within the 2 hour time. and actually goes against why it was introduced.

then we have another thing from this same rule...
5. You must not be in another persons account for any reason, other than to cover turns during a prearranged sit, or in an emergency situation. Adding to chat in a game you are not in for example will not be allowed. You must also not give permission for anyone to wander in and out of your account at their will. Take care of your account. What happens with it is your responsibility.


now this rule means nothing because while aka and kort were talking about the closing of the threads one of the members accounts was jumping from usa to canada then back to usa... when i highlighted this because i wanted to know if we were actually talking with the said member i got this response.
I checked that time frame.
taken no turns here. Looks like normal team chatters

if anyone wants to see this which is screen shot send me a pm.
so someone else signed into another account to do team chat weather this was in all games or a non clan game who knows but was still against the rule above and site rules for sitting.

so the only advice i can give you patricaa is play the games and if you think you are being unfairly treated by kort just ignore it and play on dont pull them for anything wrong don't involve the organizers because really it will be a waste of time and effort because kort is run by the person who created the rules and knows what rules he can bend to the max and not be punished for them

and this is my final post on any of the kort aka issue and my words of advice to any clan that faces them.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Foxglove on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:49 pm

You're a broken record, eddie. I can't even imagine how much of the clan director's time you must have wasted with your repetitive, spurious accusations. Cut it out. Are you trying to get every thread in the clan area permanently locked?
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby jetsetwilly on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:51 pm

eddie2 wrote:
and this is my final post on any of the kort aka issue and my words of advice to any clan that faces them.


Of course it is.
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Re: CCup4 - Games MUST be fully JOINED prior exchanges!

Postby Shannon Apple on Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:13 pm

Reported. Flaming KoRT again. This is getting ridiculous. I do have him foed, but someone linked the 1 post. We do not deserve this!
I am not going to respond to anything said, because if I do I will get accused of flaming.
I am just tired.
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