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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby WPBRJ on Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:34 pm

Hey JP let me see if I have this right

All clans that were in last year are automatically in this year if they so choose correct?

Any clan that meat the requirements that want in are not guaranteed a spot and might have to play another clan to get in is this correct?

Ok is all this is correct? Then this is not a clan league per say this is nothing more than a tournament. A clan league would mean all competitive clans have a right to play and should not have to play to get in the league.

I personally am not to supportive of this. I very well could have to play a top team like FOED or the LEGION to get into the league witch I think would be a great battle and think we could beat or be beaten by ether one of them and maybe a very low ranked team gets in by default or has to play another low ranked clan to get into the league?

I for one think if any clan meets the requirements to get in they should be in and you and who ever else is helping should be able to make it work. If clans are eliminated due to a short series of games this is nothing more than a tournament and should not count for anything towards a ranking system.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby jrh_cardinal on Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:50 pm

WPBRJ wrote:Hey JP let me see if I have this right

All clans that were in last year are automatically in this year if they so choose correct?

Any clan that meat the requirements that want in are not guaranteed a spot and might have to play another clan to get in is this correct?

Ok is all this is correct? Then this is not a clan league per say this is nothing more than a tournament. A clan league would mean all competitive clans have a right to play and should not have to play to get in the league.

I personally am not to supportive of this. I very well could have to play a top team like FOED or the LEGION to get into the league witch I think would be a great battle and think we could beat or be beaten by ether one of them and maybe a very low ranked team gets in by default or has to play another low ranked clan to get into the league?

I for one think if any clan meets the requirements to get in they should be in and you and who ever else is helping should be able to make it work. If clans are eliminated due to a short series of games this is nothing more than a tournament and should not count for anything towards a ranking system.

This isn't all correct. The only clans that are automatically in are clans that would have qualified for Division 1 after last year's Clan League (so they would be in Division 1 this year if the format had stayed the same). All other clans may have to qualify if too many clans sign up (which isn't going to happen).
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby josko.ri on Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:06 pm

WPBRJ wrote:Hey JP let me see if I have this right

All clans that were in last year are automatically in this year if they so choose correct?

Any clan that meat the requirements that want in are not guaranteed a spot and might have to play another clan to get in is this correct?

Ok is all this is correct? Then this is not a clan league per say this is nothing more than a tournament. A clan league would mean all competitive clans have a right to play and should not have to play to get in the league.

I personally am not to supportive of this. I very well could have to play a top team like FOED or the LEGION to get into the league witch I think would be a great battle and think we could beat or be beaten by ether one of them and maybe a very low ranked team gets in by default or has to play another low ranked clan to get into the league?

I for one think if any clan meets the requirements to get in they should be in and you and who ever else is helping should be able to make it work. If clans are eliminated due to a short series of games this is nothing more than a tournament and should not count for anything towards a ranking system.

it s not that single match decide who will be in. single match is only the last chance. the first chance was to be one of promoted teams in season 2 of league from division 2, or one of the first 6 teams in division 1. so you cant say that you are eliminated in just 1 match because you had chances to get in before.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby WPBRJ on Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:41 pm

josko.ri wrote:it s not that single match decide who will be in. single match is only the last chance. the first chance was to be one of promoted teams in season 2 of league from division 2, or one of the first 6 teams in division 1. so you cant say that you are eliminated in just 1 match because you had chances to get in before.


well first off DYNASTY was not in the league last year so we have no chance to excel from year 2 and even if we were a auto bid i still would not agree with a clan that meets the requirement to have to play to get in a COMPETITIVE CLAN LEAGUE

but here is the auto get rule

The top 6 clans in both Div1A and Div1B plus the 4 clans (1 disbanded) that were to be promoted from Div2A and Div2B from Season 2


if i recall witch i cant find the standing from season 2 that is just about every team that was in season 2 almost i think there was a few more anyway

its simple ether this is a league for all competitive clans or it isn't make up your mind and if it isn't witch that's what it sounds like to me there should be a play to get in just like the TLO or CCcup ever one plays to get in
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby the.killing.44 on Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:51 pm

WPBRJ wrote:its simple ether this is a league for all competitive clans or it isn't make up your mind and if it isn't witch that's what it sounds like to me there should be a play to get in just like the TLO or CCcup ever one plays to get in

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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby jrh_cardinal on Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:59 pm

jpcloet wrote:a defined play in process will be outlined upon signups for the remaining spots

it's not just one game.

WPBRJ wrote:if i recall witch i cant find the standing from season 2 that is just about every team that was in season 2 almost i think there was a few more anyway
there were 4 more clans in Division 1 that got "demoted" to Division 2, as well as 9 more Division 2 clans that didn't get promoted, so it's not just about every clan, it's just over half the clans.

WPBRJ wrote:its simple ether this is a league for all competitive clans or it isn't

it's not meant to be every single clan. There's a limit on what the Clan Directors can do/control, and they pushed their limits when they decided to accept up to 32 clans last year. Division 2 wasn't exactly an overwhelming success, it didn't completely fill up, and it was a lot of work, so they're changing how the league runs.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby jpcloet on Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:33 pm

WPBRJ wrote:All clans that were in last year are automatically in this year if they so choose correct?


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Incorrect, in Div 1, 12 of the 16 clans get automatic bids as 4 were demoted.
In Div2, where most of the issues were, only 4 of the 16 (or however many ended up finishing the season) get auto-bids due to promotion.

WPBRJ wrote:Any clan that meat the requirements that want in are not guaranteed a spot and might have to play another clan to get in is this correct?


There are currently 9 play in spots and so far 11 play in teams have applied. If I were a leader of a play in team, I think I would like those odds. Given that 8 of the auto-bids have not confirmed, there may not have to be any play in battles. We will see in the next few days what actually happens. If all clans applied, then the likely scenario would be groups of balanced 3, and 2 teams moving on. Not sure exactly how play-ins will work.

WPBRJ wrote:Ok is all this is correct? Then this is not a clan league per say this is nothing more than a tournament. A clan league would mean all competitive clans have a right to play and should not have to play to get in the league.


There are no real rights here, only privileges. Every clan last year was given the privilege to play in the league, and a number of clans disappointed me, and made running Division 2 very difficult. I would like to be all-inclusive, however, practicality will win out.

WPBRJ wrote:I personally am not to supportive of this. I very well could have to play a top team like FOED or the LEGION to get into the league witch I think would be a great battle and think we could beat or be beaten by ether one of them and maybe a very low ranked team gets in by default or has to play another low ranked clan to get into the league? I for one think if any clan meets the requirements to get in they should be in and you and who ever else is helping should be able to make it work. If clans are eliminated due to a short series of games this is nothing more than a tournament and should not count for anything towards a ranking system.


I would like to think that I am very fair. Have a little faith. There are potentially 26 clans right now that may want to participate. If I believe all 26 can make it through the season, I have not ruled out letting all play. 26 would be 2 groups of 6 and 2 groups of 7.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby WPBRJ on Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:58 pm

well i dint mean to start up a war but i not sure were you guys are getting 1 game play in from i never said that or never implied it ether

but i do respect you and what you have done jp i just read the rules and if dynasty has to play a FOED or a legion clan that means a solid clan wont get in that's what i am saying there is no out line on the play in yet so while i trust you there is nothing saying that better established clans might just make it over maybe a new clan that just started

also again clan league to me is all clans that qualify just my opinion and last time i look i was entitled to my own opinion
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby chemefreak on Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:42 pm

WPBRJ wrote:I very well could have to play a top team like FOED or the LEGION to get into the league witch I think would be a great battle and think we could beat or be beaten by ether one of them and maybe a very low ranked team gets in by default or has to play another low ranked clan to get into the league?


Thanks for the compliment WP...and to tell you the truth, I think everyone would love to have us in the league...especially since we took last year's "punching bag" title! :lol:

But to jp's point, I completely understand. There were some clans that simply quit or disbanded last year. I think he will find a way to make it work for those that will stick around.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby Incandenza on Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:57 am

THOTA will not be participating in this season of the league, but I and my clanmates wish all involved good luck and fair drops.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby jpcloet on Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:50 am

Deadline for sign ups has been extended to end of Saturday, Sept 12th. On Sunday I will try and finalize the schedule.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby chemefreak on Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:50 am

Incandenza wrote:THOTA will not be participating in this season of the league, but I and my clanmates wish all involved good luck and fair drops.


Wow. This surprising. Remember when TSM didn't participate in the CCup and their relevance dropped to about zero for a while? It is really disappointing to hear that THOTA won't be participating...although, a part of me is happy to hear this :D
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby jpcloet on Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:41 am

Not surprising given the CCup is still going. I think a few more clans are likely to opt out for various reasons and the CD's knew that going into the season.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby lord voldemort on Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:22 pm

wow no thota...
this just makes 0 sense
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby danryan on Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:32 pm

Updated FOED contact info.

As far as who participates, I suspect the most active, lively clans are likeliest to try and be involved in all events. I can understand after a long reign as the undisputed best clan on cc, THOTA wanting to take a break and focus on the CCup, which they're already in. The league will suffer for not having them participate but still will be a success given the caliber of the other clans involved.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby Ace Rimmer on Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:30 pm

Very magnanimous of you danryan, but I bet it's more likely they're feeling the heat from LoW and are afraid another poor showing like season 2 will prove that they are no longer the undisputed best clan on cc.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby Dako on Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:41 pm

They also don't participate in TLO. So the game load must not be high and tense.

I think it possible for a clan to participate in all 3 major clan events.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:43 pm

Dako wrote:They also don't participate in TLO. So the game load must not be high and tense.

I think it possible for a clan to participate in all 3 major clan events.



For some clans it is. For those who enjoy lower game counts it is surely not always best to play in everything offered up.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby Dako on Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:51 pm

5 games for TLO, 5-7 for CCup, 5 for CLA. So max of 20games per top clan players. Others can surely stay at ~10 games.

If I am counting right.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby josko.ri on Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:08 pm

Dako wrote:They also don't participate in TLO. So the game load must not be high and tense.

I think it possible for a clan to participate in all 3 major clan events.

so, except Clan league and CCup which is the 3rd one major clan event? if you think on TLO like 3rd one, it s wrong because TLO is normal tournament, not clan event.

I also agree that average clan, with 15-20 active players at every time, can successfully handle all ongoing major clan events.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby jpcloet on Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:39 pm

TLO is mainly clans now I think, although given you only play 4-6 players, technically it resides in the tournament area. A TLO style for the league was considered, however, fixed maps is not a popular choice right now. Another clan event could see fixed maps etc. in the future.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby lokisgal on Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:45 pm

Any chance you can update the first page with the clans that have joined thus far? And is tomorrows deadline hard and fast? Seems some of the higher ranked clans along with us are still debating
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby Dako on Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:51 pm

josko.ri wrote:
Dako wrote:They also don't participate in TLO. So the game load must not be high and tense.

I think it possible for a clan to participate in all 3 major clan events.

so, except Clan league and CCup which is the 3rd one major clan event? if you think on TLO like 3rd one, it s wrong because TLO is normal tournament, not clan event.

I also agree that average clan, with 15-20 active players at every time, can successfully handle all ongoing major clan events.

I know that TLO is just a tournament, but 80% of the people are from clans there and I count it as a clan event. It is very popular right now and I value the win there nearly as much as the CLA. Thou winning CCup seems more worthy.
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby Leehar on Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:58 pm

jpcloet wrote:Deadline for sign ups has been extended to end of Saturday, Sept 12th. On Sunday I will try and finalize the schedule.

Sorry, it's not really my business but I'm sure it could lead to some confusion...
Do you mean Saturday the 11th or Sunday the 12th? I'm inclined to think the former, but it'd be good to have it more accurate... 8-[
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Re: Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

Postby jpcloet on Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:06 pm

lokisgal wrote:Any chance you can update the first page with the clans that have joined thus far? And is tomorrows deadline hard and fast? Seems some of the higher ranked clans along with us are still debating


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