TOFU vs T4C [40-10 of 50] [Final]

[eddie2]

tofu are you Farming lol 45 v 5 to tofu

Actually no. TOFU is not farming, but T4C has contacted most of the top clans including KORT. They want a match to see how far along they are vs top clans. They asked about 4 or 5 clans I know of. We opted out due to being in 2 events already, but looks like TOFU is gonna take them on. Good Luck to both sides.

You should know better than to feed the troll Bruce. Good luck to both clans.

post reported. move on bogangod and stop trying to bait me.

[lord voldemort]

lol he did nothing of the sort eddie...
now im positive i have spoken to both of you in regards to ignoring each other...
I really dont wnat to get involved


Anyway..tofu in a whitewash. But good on them for not being elitist douches

[chemefreak]

But good on them for not being elitist douches

I agree with this completely. TOFU has nothing to gain here and everything to lose. Good for them for having the balls to play a challenge against a newer clan. Mmmm. I say 32-18 TOFU. I shall be rooting for the little guys! Good luck to both clans.

[Chariot of Fire]

Thank you lovo.

I think Eddie had a valid point tho tbh.

oh...and thank you too Nick.

[jpcloet]

Well the perception seems to be that this is not fair. This is a good chance for the CD's to further clarify policy as this goes on. Eg. What is fair (leap frog would help a bit here) standard rules (eg CLA discussion on forfeits and penalties) etc.

[Ace Rimmer]

We don't want to be perceived as elitist douches (thanks for that LV) like some other clans and tell people that they can only play us once they've "proven themselves". Like CoF said, we were a new clan (and no we weren't all from existing clans, I know at least Dako and I had not previously been in clans) and ID accepted our challenge. In our public challenge thread, we haven't been challenged by anyone else, and I am not certain if we've received any PMs about clans that are looking for a challenge right now, but I don't know of any.

JP, I'd love a standard template for us to build from on forfeits/penalties/etc. Good luck figuring out a ladder that all clans will agree on, it seems that every time you try it's shot down.

[ljex]

We don't want to be perceived as elitist douches (thanks for that LV) like some other clans and tell people that they can only play us once they've "proven themselves". Like CoF said, we were a new clan (and no we weren't all from existing clans, I know at least Dako and I had not previously been in clans) and ID accepted our challenge. In our public challenge thread, we haven't been challenged by anyone else, and I am not certain if we've received any PMs about clans that are looking for a challenge right now, but I don't know of any.

JP, I'd love a standard template for us to build from on forfeits/penalties/etc. Good luck figuring out a ladder that all clans will agree on, it seems that every time you try it's shot down.

To be honest i dont care who you face that is up to you, but I know for a fact there are other clans wishing to challenge you.

[Chariot of Fire]

Well the perception seems to be that this is not fair. This is a good chance for the CD's to further clarify policy as this goes on. Eg. What is fair (leap frog would help a bit here) standard rules (eg CLA discussion on forfeits and penalties) etc.

I'm not really sure which is more unfair here: TOFU having a greater standing than T4C, or TOFU being told who they can or can not face in a challenge?

Now I don't expect this contest to raise our standing at all in terms of perceived strength or ability, but I do expect it to set some precedent that not every clan turns down an invitation for a battle due to the credentials of the challenger. Let's give T4C a bit of credit before everyone starts writing them off please.

And it's worth reiterating - we are the party that responded to the challenge. If you wish to implement rules that prevent an elite clan from picking on lesser outfits then do so by all means, but don't deny these guys a shot at the big time if that's what they seek.

[Rodion]

If you don't mind me asking, weren't you guys considering a challenge vs. either TSM or EMPIRE?

How did that go?

[Ace Rimmer]

To be honest i dont care who you face that is up to you, but I know for a fact there are other clans wishing to challenge you.

I don't know that we've gotten an official request or interest in a challenge. Granted I'm not our war head, but I am active in the forums.

[eddie2]

ok guys i think i started this off having a joke with tofu. All these people that have came in slagging tofu off are clans that say prove yourself before we face you. If that was the case every clan could say this against any new clan that opens. if t4c were to join the ccup or clan league would you slag them off for facing them in these things. at the end of it when the league was made you had top ranks in all groups facing lower ranked clans giving the lower ranks no chance of getting into the 2nd round.

enough said on this gl to both clans in this challenge..

[Master Fenrir]

Admittedly, my first response when I saw the heading for the war was "What?" And then I began reading through the thread. I have two thoughts here.

1) I don't know anybody in TOFU who I would classify as a "medal whore," so I doubt that's what this is about. I'm not really sold on the whole "accepting the war to prove we're not elitist douches," as it's evident from the public response that had TOFU denied the challenge, most would have thought of them as "not clan-farmers" as opposed to "elitist douches." However, I'm sure that TOFU foresaw this response, and would not have accepted the challenge had their actual intention been to farm. I'm chalking this up to "some people just like warrin'."

2) T4C are probably going to get their asses beat, as they probably knew they would. Based on Bruce's post, it's highly possible that T4C's intention here is not to win, but to learn game-play and clan-organization from a top clan. If that's there reason for challenging the Top 5 clans, I'm cool with that. Win or lose, T4C has much to gain from this challenge.

[tyche73]

Well the perception seems to be that this is not fair. This is a good chance for the CD's to further clarify policy as this goes on. Eg. What is fair (leap frog would help a bit here) standard rules (eg CLA discussion on forfeits and penalties) etc.

You'd never think it'd be a lose lose situation organising a clan war for Tofu
Maybe we should take the protest as a compliment
So if we play we're farmers and if we don't we're elitist but you might not wanta interfere with current structure ie leap frog as conquerors cup involves some miss matchs at the start
Although a discussion on on forfeits and penalties would be welcomed maybe even a bit of common sense thrown in instead of draconian rules, i think CoF covered rest of the arguement

[trapyoung]

If you don't mind me asking, weren't you guys considering a challenge vs. either TSM or EMPIRE?

How did that go?

Any challenge considered against TSM or Empire would likely have not gotten off until after the Holiday season anyway. This challenge commences Friday and is intended to be carried out through the Holiday season, thus it has no bearing on any challenge or availability against TSM or Empire in late January/early February as had been suggested in a cornucopia of other threads.

To set out something more definitive, I suggest either posting in our Clan Challenge thread or pm'ing either Dako or COF directly.

[Chuuuuck]

All these people that have came in slagging tofu off are clans that say prove yourself before we face you.

Eddie, once again I struggle with you. Do you actually read anyone's post before you make comments like this? Or do you just see a post written by someone and make up your mind on what it says without reading it?

I am thinking the ladder because of how stupid this comment is. If you read through all of the posts in this thread, the only person that "slagging tofu" is Eyestone. Every other player has defended TOFU or said "good for them" for giving a new clan a chance. What makes it even more stupid of a comment is I very much doubt Agents of Chaos is one of the "elitist clans" that tell people to prove themselves before they will play you.

It could benefit you greatly if every time you want to make a post you take 10 deep breaths and wait 2 min. to think about what you want your post to say and read others' posts again before you do. Now I know you are going to be all anxious to hit reply to this as soon as you read it (or just see my name and it includes your name and you will just assume what I wrote without reading the rest), but remember 10 breaths, 2 min., read posts again. Have a nice day.

PS, to TOFU for taking them on. Best of luck to T4C and all involved.