1v1 Clan Challenge {winners: Empire}

[barterer2002]

Are you going to be the lead on this for Empire LV?

[Bruceswar]

Shame KORT could not get enough interest for this.

[Gold Knight]

Updating with a player list for AOD...

Most likely AOD will participate, want to make sure with the bossman before giving the definate.

Primary contact: jpcloet
Secondary Contact: Gold Knight

Player list: Jpcloet
Gold Knight
Jghost7
Dustin800
Chiefsfan4ever
Jgazaille
BluU
Wbt66
CaronylKluster
Friendly1
Kgbpizza
Murphy16
DarkSheet
Boss_oss_ss
Codierose
Paws1610
KingConan
Gambler2121o
Eddie666
MrPicklePepper

[QoH]

Since there are only 9, how will this work? Round Robin, Play in for last place, or what?

[Timminz]

I'm amazed at the response to this. Great work Bart!

[Gold Knight]

Since there are only 9, how will this work? Round Robin, Play in for last place, or what?

We could hold off for a tenth, im pretty sure we could recruit one more clan to get a squad together, perhaps one of the newer clans coming up... Come on Bruce, get KORT on board!

[lord voldemort]

Are you going to be the lead on this for Empire LV?

not likely...id assume denise if we are in

[dowian2]

I'll be the lead contact for EMPIRE in this challenge. I'm currently doublechecking to get a list of players for you, but count us in.

[barterer2002]

Well you'll note that I posted earlier that we;ll start on Monday so we've got the weekend to get another clan (or 3) in. If we have an odd number there will be a few byes. See the front for the rules and how we're going to handle these things.

dow I'll get you down as the Empire's contact.

[barterer2002]

So here's how it'll work with 10 just so we're all on the same page

Round 1

10-7
8-9

Round 2
1- (lowest surviving seed)
3-6
4-5
2-(other play in winner)

[IcePack]

Greetings,

Consider KOA in please, player list up and coming.

Primary Contact: IcePack
Secondary Contact: MegasWoman

[dowian2]

Here's a more official entry for EMPIRE:

Primary Contact: dowian2
Secondary Contact: Lubawski

Preliminary Roster:
CandaVespin
Chuuuuck
dowian2
dwilhelmi
jj3044
ljex
lord voldemort
Lubawski
mkcummins
Ninja Champion
pconnolly365
The Voice

[ljex]

can manual be an option for this? its not like team games in the respect that it makes it less strategic, if anything i think it is more strategic and it is more fun to play 1 vs 1 that way

[jj3044]

And, so to be clear, beta maps are allowed?

[dowian2]

can manual be an option for this? its not like team games in the respect that it makes it less strategic, if anything i think it is more strategic and it is more fun to play 1 vs 1 that way

And, so to be clear, beta maps are allowed?

And I sent bart a question via PM... see what happens when you let us in?

[jj3044]

can manual be an option for this? its not like team games in the respect that it makes it less strategic, if anything i think it is more strategic and it is more fun to play 1 vs 1 that way

And, so to be clear, beta maps are allowed?

And I sent bart a question via PM... see what happens when you let us in?

LOL, we bring problems everywhere we go apparently.

[chemefreak]

can manual be an option for this? its not like team games in the respect that it makes it less strategic, if anything i think it is more strategic and it is more fun to play 1 vs 1 that way

Manual is not allowed. Neither is freestyle. Unlimited only on a few maps. Those were the basic rules. If manual is to be allowed, a few clans, including mine, may reconsider our entry.

[ljex]

can manual be an option for this? its not like team games in the respect that it makes it less strategic, if anything i think it is more strategic and it is more fun to play 1 vs 1 that way

Manual is not allowed. Neither is freestyle. Unlimited only on a few maps. Those were the basic rules. If manual is to be allowed, a few clans, including mine, may reconsider our entry.

why? manual works great with 1 vs 1, I can understand why it sucks for team games but it is a great setting to use in a 1 vs 1 game IMO and i dont see how the inclusion of a setting would such a difference as to cause your clan to sit out of the event.

can you please provide a logical argument for why it should be left out?

[shaneback]

can manual be an option for this? its not like team games in the respect that it makes it less strategic, if anything i think it is more strategic and it is more fun to play 1 vs 1 that way

Manual is not allowed. Neither is freestyle. Unlimited only on a few maps. Those were the basic rules. If manual is to be allowed, a few clans, including mine, may reconsider our entry.

why? manual works great with 1 vs 1, I can understand why it sucks for team games but it is a great setting to use in a 1 vs 1 game IMO and i dont see how the inclusion of a setting would such a difference as to cause your clan to sit out of the event.

can you please provide a logical argument for why it should be left out?

There have been 3.6 million 1 v 1 seq games played here and only 180,000 were manual, which is 5%. It is not really a popular setting, as it rewards going first, which is already an advantage.

[ljex]

can manual be an option for this? its not like team games in the respect that it makes it less strategic, if anything i think it is more strategic and it is more fun to play 1 vs 1 that way

Manual is not allowed. Neither is freestyle. Unlimited only on a few maps. Those were the basic rules. If manual is to be allowed, a few clans, including mine, may reconsider our entry.

why? manual works great with 1 vs 1, I can understand why it sucks for team games but it is a great setting to use in a 1 vs 1 game IMO and i dont see how the inclusion of a setting would such a difference as to cause your clan to sit out of the event.

can you please provide a logical argument for why it should be left out?

There have been 3.6 million 1 v 1 seq games played here and only 180,000 were manual, which is 5%. It is not really a popular setting, as it rewards going first, which is already an advantage.

Well lets be fair, there have been way more doubles games (424473) than there have been quads (56135) but quads accounts for more games in clan league, cc cup2 and a lot of challenges so clearly number of games played on certain settings should dictate what games clans played. Second, automatic has been here since the site was first around, manual only since late 2009 so that is a skewed statistic. Thirdly, this is a 1 vs 1 challenge clearly luck is going to be a big factor in the games but beyond that I am a big believer that skill is way more important in manual 1 vs 1 than it is in automatic 1 vs 1. Along with unlimited, I don't see why if you think a setting will make it more luck you decide to say it is not allowed in the competition. If that were the case why would anyone host games on those settings? If it were such a luck game then they would have no advantage choosing that as a home map/settings, it just makes no sense to take away "luck based settings" because it thats what they truly were no one would choose them for their home maps anyway...

[nippersean]

can you please provide a logical argument for why it should be left out?

Ljex,

Yep - it's in the rules (on page 1)
"For purposes of this event there will be no freestyle, or manual settings. Unlimited forts will be allowed on certain (primarily single start) maps only (Feudal War, Feudal Epic, AOR1, AOR2, AOR3, Galapagos, Jamaica, New World, Lunar War, Poker Club, Monsters, Arms Race) (please let me know if I've missed any)"

Nipp

[Lubawski]

Manual paired with freestyle is basically cheating in any event because you can guarantee your first turn. I haven't played manual sequential, so I really don't have a comment, but the rules are set, so let's not turn this into a discussion. We knew the rules when we signed up.

[danryan]

If manual is in, we're out. End of story. Same for freestyle. Sequential and Automatic are baseline requirements from my perspective.

[MegasWoman]

If manual is in, we're out. End of story. Same for freestyle. Sequential and Automatic are baseline requirements from my perspective.

Ditto.

[ljex]

can you please provide a logical argument for why it should be left out?

Ljex,

Yep - it's in the rules (on page 1)
"For purposes of this event there will be no freestyle, or manual settings. Unlimited forts will be allowed on certain (primarily single start) maps only (Feudal War, Feudal Epic, AOR1, AOR2, AOR3, Galapagos, Jamaica, New World, Lunar War, Poker Club, Monsters, Arms Race) (please let me know if I've missed any)"

Nipp

yes i see it in the rules, why does everyone hate manual 1 vs 1. Also im not even saying freestyle should be in i think its good that its not, but i would like to know why manual is not. Or why people would leave if manual were allowed?