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by **DJ Teflon** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:07 am

Leehar wrote:So Bofm will advance to these technicalities? Seems kinda lame, no offence

The scoring system was discussed at length at the beginning of the tournament. It was designed for exactly this kind of scenario, where extended games (such as no spoils, adjacent Hive) would have otherwise stalled the tournament from progressing. If the game in question is not concluded by the end of 25 rounds then the game is declared a draw for tournament purposes.

The winning team will advance by virtue of having scored more points, the sane technicality that has applied throughout the tournament.

This is another of those close battles, fortunately not affected by false accusations.

Round 25 has started in the final game so it will be either won or drawn soon.

Again, in the final, my Tournamanet Assistant, jghost7, will be on hand for independant decisions at Tournament Organiser level.

by **danryan** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:17 am

FOED will win more games in the challenge but BOFM will advance. Well done mermaids, you won the rules game even if you couldn't win more games in the challenge.

And with that, gl in the final.

Edit: because of course this was all about not stalling the tournament. k thx bye.

by **L M S** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:06 am

Dynasty vs. *BotFM

how exciting.

I gotta go with *BotFM in the finals to win...You guys have the skill but to win easily, but they have the law on their side, sorry Dynasty.

by **HippieBroker** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:28 pm

congrats mermaids. and good luck in the finals.

Not very often a team ends up losing the war but advances! Congratulations! You've set a precedent!

And DJ... I believe the 25 round limit was put in to avoid "stalemates" that delayed the tourney. The hive game is not a stalemate...the outcome is decided...it is a foed win. I think even you mermaids can acknowledge that!

you have other games in this tourney that have gone past 25 rounds. So why is that not allowed here?
No need to respond to that. Everyone already knows why.

in the grand scheme of things this doesn't matter at all. it is only an online game.
Still a pretty lousy way to lose a war....when you don't actually lose!

Enjoy the finals!
May you have less drama than you did in this one!
cheers

by **Commander9** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:31 pm

Congratulations to BotFM for a completely deserved win in the semi-finals with ability to advance even with managing to lose more games, lose a tie breaker and managing to apply that was done to avoid stalemates to help decide the outcome of the game that was not a stalemate and that would have ended really soon to their favour. What an awesome, fair bunch just filled with integrity you are

Again congrats and good luck in the finals with Dynasty - although I'm sure you won't need that

See if perhaps you'd apply some other rules around that didn't apply to this tournament in general, but would apply just for the final alone. Heck, I'm sure DJ can do it

by **Leehar** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:41 pm

Yeah, as sorrowful as it is, I can't see how this outcome can't go down in the same cloud as the Kort win in the semi-finals of another top tier clan competition. More's the pity

by **Draq** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:54 pm

Aww all theese cute congratulations from the boys in FOED. I´m moved to tears! Thanks bubs! :-({|=

by **Pander88uk** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:06 pm

Well done FOED on winning the war, undefeated through a tough competition is good going! Might well end up being the only team to manage it if Dynasty lose!

by **hotfire** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:50 pm

i would feel for foed if it wasnt their own damn fault in choosing their homemap as hive in a 25 round limit tournament...

by **L M S** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:04 pm

hotfire wrote:i would feel for foed if it wasnt their own damn fault in choosing their homemap as hive in a 25 round limit tournament...

Its not a big deal when the other team actually plays the game without 'accidentally' prolonging the game as a strategy to advance in the tournament, for us to finish the Hive in well under 25 rounds, we know the map well. Hey I guess a tournament win is a tournament win, even if the game counts say otherwise...just ask KORT and now add *BotFM to that list.

For example (just from this tournament):
Game 9974520
Game 9698147

by **macbone** on Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:27 am

Don't forget, FOED won the tiebreaker game that was never needed, too. So even though we ended up winning more games than BotFM, they'll advance. (Why wasn't the tiebreaker included to begin with?)

This is like tying the last game of the National League Championship series and deciding not to go to extra innings. Well-played, guys.

by **danryan** on Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:30 am

hotfire wrote:i would feel for foed if it wasnt their own damn fault in choosing their homemap as hive in a 25 round limit tournament...

We went back and checked the records, because I thought the same thing when it started looking like this would become an issue. Only in something like 2 of the last 20 hive games that team played has it gone that long. Unfortunately for us it happened.

by **pearljamrox2** on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:33 pm

I definitely understand the frustration/outrage from the Foed side, but I don't think there is any way that game would have finished before Round 25. Both clans played very well and deserve to win but there can only be one. That is as close as it gets, but don't try to take anything away from the other side. There is no shame losing to another top clan by the smallest margin possible.

by **Commander9** on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:44 pm

hotfire wrote:i would feel for foed if it wasnt their own damn fault in choosing their homemap as hive in a 25 round limit tournament...

uckuki wrote:I checked my Hive Quads No Spoils games. played 30 total, only 2
games went over 25 rounds (this one and the game against kort).
what did us in was lousy start: they killed mac with no trouble while
we had several dicefails trying to get their guy. we got back into the game
halfway through, in 13th or 14th round. still, a nice comeback indeed.

they have nothing to brag about, winning the series after getting
their ass kicked. lol