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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby MudPuppy on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:51 am

qwert wrote:==========
LOW could qualify only if win against ID
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Crazy!!! LoW could end this thing tied with most overall wins but still not advance!!! :o
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Crazyirishman on Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:21 am

Figures, there's 13 active games left and we're in 6 of them. 2 should be wins, 1 we have the advantage, 1 looks like a loss, and 2 are undecided. Not sure where that will land us.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Qwert on Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:27 am

final table prediction

1.id----9---[46-38]
2.tffs--9---[45-39]
3.myt---8---[44-40]
4.osa---8---[42-42]
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5.low---7---[45-39]
6.pig---7---[40-44]
7.vdll--4---[37-47]
8.dyn---4---[36-48]
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note:Change are possibile,if LOW win against ID,then LOW will go to semifinal and OSA will finish competition. In this scenarion ID will lost medals,and TFFS will Take Medals for Division 2 winner. Then Table will look :
1.tffs--9---[45-39]
2.low---8---[46-38]
3.id----8---[45-39]
4.myt---8---[44-40]
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5.osa---8---[42-42]
6.pig---7---[40-44]
7.vdll--4---[37-47]
8.dyn---4---[36-48]
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Postby Teflon Kris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:00 am

Scores & Table Updated.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Qwert on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:05 pm

ID-LOW--6-3
well now its all finish
ID,TFFS,OSA and MYT are qualify to Semifinal.

edit: ID-LOW 6-5
5 active game left,but they can not change 4th teams who all ready qualify to Semifinal. Only left to determine who will be in 1st position. If ID win then he will be Division winner,if he play 6-6 against LOW,then TFFS are Division winner.
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now its only left to waith begining of SEmifinal.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Leehar on Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:36 pm

Phase 3 isn't semifinals, it's just another league between you top 4
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Qwert on Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:23 am

Leehar wrote:Phase 3 isn't semifinals, it's just another league between you top 4


well i call this Semifinal Group (its hard to call league,because have only 4 team) because you have 4 teams,and two go to finale.
But i supouse that everybody call this on diferent way, someone say LEague, some Group and some(me) call Semifinal. ;)
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Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:36 am

Scores and Table Updated


Confirmation of Clans going forward into Phase 3:

MYTH
ID
OSA
TFFS


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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Crazyirishman on Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:44 pm

Congrats to the four clans listed above, well fought by all. I'm still a bit perplexed how we were 1 win from 2nd, but finished in 5th, just goes to show how close things were (silly me, thinking only games count, not those stupid points).
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby TheCrown on Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:03 pm

I am putting forth chard for MVP of Divison 2

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Scores and Table updated.

We may end up with a tie for the winner.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Qwert on Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:32 pm

TheCrown wrote:I am putting forth chard for MVP of Divison 2

Plyr Games W - L
Chard (24) 16 - 7

1 still going.

can i ask what parameters you take to decide who are mvp?
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Crazyirishman on Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:54 pm

qwert wrote:
TheCrown wrote:I am putting forth chard for MVP of Divison 2

Plyr Games W - L
Chard (24) 16 - 7

1 still going.

can i ask what parameters you take to decide who are mvp?


I think he is just throwing out a suggestion based on games won/lost and how many game played. For example, I am 16-9 with 26 games played and 1 still waiting to finish (6 of 7 in trips, just to toot my own horn). For some weird reason my map rank wont work for this division or I could quickly put together the records for the rest of our clan.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Leehar on Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:07 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:
qwert wrote:
TheCrown wrote:I am putting forth chard for MVP of Divison 2

Plyr Games W - L
Chard (24) 16 - 7

1 still going.

can i ask what parameters you take to decide who are mvp?


I think he is just throwing out a suggestion based on games won/lost and how many game played. For example, I am 16-9 with 26 games played and 1 still waiting to finish (6 of 7 in trips, just to toot my own horn). For some weird reason my map rank wont work for this division or I could quickly put together the records for the rest of our clan.

Tour Stats works fairly well for this

viewtopic.php?f=527&t=86543
Chipv hasn't updated it for a while, but it still works
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby chemefreak on Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:33 pm

The MVP of each division is selected by the TOs and then approved by the CDs. There is no set formula.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Qwert on Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:55 pm

chemefreak wrote:The MVP of each division is selected by the TOs and then approved by the CDs. There is no set formula.

because i notice that one player have 11-1, so this mean that best win % dont mean that will be MVP, very strange .
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby chemefreak on Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:04 pm

qwert wrote:
chemefreak wrote:The MVP of each division is selected by the TOs and then approved by the CDs. There is no set formula.

because i notice that one player have 11-1, so this mean that best win % dont mean that will be MVP, very strange .


Please criticize in English. Thanks.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Crazyirishman on Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:33 pm

qwert wrote:
chemefreak wrote:The MVP of each division is selected by the TOs and then approved by the CDs. There is no set formula.

because i notice that one player have 11-1, so this mean that best win % dont mean that will be MVP, very strange .


So what if 1 player goes 5-0 and another goes 13-3? Who do you think is more valuable, win percentage doesn't mean that much if the sample size is small.

I'm not sure what player you are referring to so I'm not going to criticize that player, but I am willing to bet that they may bring playing with very select settings i.e. only home maps or something along those lines to be 11-1. But that player would is only in 12 of the clans 84 games and only playing 1-2 a week, accounting for roughly 15% of that clans games. For me personally, I find it hard to pick an MVP who played in so few games, even though they played very well when they did.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby aaronvollrath on Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:14 pm

i vote for hambone. we didn't let that asshole play in any of our clan's games and we made it to phase 3.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Qwert on Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:15 am

I only put a question for MVP parameters,and its look that only CD director feels what player will be MVP,withouth any parameters. Usualy statistic are parameters to determine MVP.
Its this not aloved to ask anything ?

Unfortunatly cheme,im all ready put you on foe,so i can not put you twice.
Unbelivabile how in this entire CL,some CD are very hostile,and in any normal question answer very hostile.

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am putting forth chard for MVP of Divison 2

Plyr Games W - L
Chard (24) 16 - 7 (66.66%)

1 still going

Le rodent(28) w-18 L-10(64,28)

geko(12) w-11 l-1(91.66%)
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby Crazyirishman on Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:19 am

Thanks for the link leehar, its very helpful.

I'm sorry qwert, but cheme's answer was not hostile. A smartass response that was a tad bit uncalled for? Yes, but not hostile.

However you do bring up an interesting point. I personally believe that Le Rodent would present a better case for MVP than geko, despite geko playing very well in his 12 games.

Le Rodent is 18-10 in his 28 games while chard is 16-7 (most likely 17-7 if we win the cricket game that we have the lead in) in his 24 games, so both are very deserving of the MVP. Of course it is fairly obvious which one I would lean towards. ;)
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby chemefreak on Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:15 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:Thanks for the link leehar, its very helpful.

I'm sorry qwert, but cheme's answer was not hostile. A smartass response that was a tad bit uncalled for? Yes, but not hostile.

However you do bring up an interesting point. I personally believe that Le Rodent would present a better case for MVP than geko, despite geko playing very well in his 12 games.

Le Rodent is 18-10 in his 28 games while chard is 16-7 (most likely 17-7 if we win the cricket game that we have the lead in) in his 24 games, so both are very deserving of the MVP. Of course it is fairly obvious which one I would lean towards. ;)


Hopefully the TOs will consider this opinion in their analysis. It is well reasoned and coherent. We shall how the TOs go, especially considering that this thing may go down to a tiebreaker. The MVP could very well come out of that set of games.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby benga on Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:55 pm

This is all nice, but OSA used a 35 man roster while others hardly made it a 20-25.

This also has to be taken in account.

But yes Le Rodent seems to most deserving MVP, chard has worse stats and LOW didn't qualify,
so his contribution is smaller in every way.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby chemefreak on Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:06 pm

benga wrote:This is all nice, but OSA used a 35 man roster while others hardly made it a 20-25.

This also has to be taken in account.

But yes Le Rodent seems to most deserving MVP, chard has worse stats and LOW didn't qualify,
so his contribution is smaller in every way.


I'm sure this will be taken into account. A very good observation. So far, the MVP choice for Division 4 was, in my opinion, perfect and extremely well reasoned. So I think everyone will get a fair shake. Plus, they are only medals. And no one cares about medals right? ;)
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 2

Postby benga on Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:17 pm

chemefreak wrote:
benga wrote:This is all nice, but OSA used a 35 man roster while others hardly made it a 20-25.

This also has to be taken in account.

But yes Le Rodent seems to most deserving MVP, chard has worse stats and LOW didn't qualify,
so his contribution is smaller in every way.


I'm sure this will be taken into account. A very good observation. So far, the MVP choice for Division 4 was, in my opinion, perfect and extremely well reasoned. So I think everyone will get a fair shake. Plus, they are only medals. And no one cares about medals right? ;)


But it's also about recognition, I do want geko to be the winner, but from Rodents performance
it's clear that with his 18 wins he contributed the most.
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