The Clan League Vase - TNC Winners

[Dukasaur]

All games have been created and Home team invitations sent out.

You have until Monday midnight to send me your Away lineups, but some teams have already started, so we may be able to start doing Away invites sooner.

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[ScaryTeded]

Round 2 Lotz Home
dubs:
1.Game 11017062 Antarctica - no spoils,chained,foggy -
2.Game 11017109 Conquer Rome -foggy, no spoils, chained -
3.Game 11017116 WWII Poland -no spoils ,chained,foggy -
4.Game 11017119 Classic , Escalting , chained , foggy -
5.Game 11017124 Ireland - flat,chained,foggy -
6.Game 11017126 Arms Race - no spoils , chained,foggy -
trips;
1.Game 11017137 City Mogul - no spoils,chained,foggy -
2.Game 11017149 Balkan Peninsula - no spoils,chained,foggy -
3.Game 11017155 Solar System - no spoils,chained,foggy -
4.Game 11017230 Castle Lands - Escalating ,chained,sunny -

[dazza2008]

Round 2 Lotz Home
dubs:
1.Game 11017062 Antarctica - no spoils,chained,foggy -
2.Game 11017109 Conquer Rome -foggy, no spoils, chained -
3.Game 11017116 WWII Poland -no spoils ,chained,foggy -
4.Game 11017119 Classic , Escalting , chained , foggy -
5.Game 11017124 Ireland - flat,chained,foggy -
6.Game 11017126 Arms Race - no spoils , chained,foggy -
trips;
1.Game 11017137 City Mogul - no spoils,chained,foggy -
2.Game 11017149 Balkan Peninsula - no spoils,chained,foggy -
3.Game 11017155 Solar System - no spoils,chained,foggy -
4.Game 11017230 Castle Lands - Escalating ,chained,sunny -

That's confidence.

[Agent 86]

Dukasaur, we have a problem with 1RFG vs MB. You have put the wrong Agent 86 in, I wondered why the games weren't showing in my waiting list so checked. I'm Agent 86 who represents 1RFG and I never knew until now that there is another player under this name Agent86..wow confusing for me, how did this happen and I only found out now.

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[cookie0117]

Dukasaur, we have a problem with 1RFG vs MB. You have put the wrong Agent 86 in, I wondered why the games weren't showing in my waiting list so checked. I'm Agent 86 who represents 1RFG and I never knew until now that there is another player under this name Agent86..wow confusing for me, how did this happen and I only found out now.

86

Do some people just join anything they get sent??

[Dukasaur]

Dukasaur, we have a problem with 1RFG vs MB. You have put the wrong Agent 86 in, I wondered why the games weren't showing in my waiting list so checked. I'm Agent 86 who represents 1RFG and I never knew until now that there is another player under this name Agent86..wow confusing for me, how did this happen and I only found out now.

86

Ok, I'll write to him and ask him to drop the game. Luckily the games won't start until Team 2 joins.

[Dukasaur]

Okay, PM sent. If worst comes to worst I'll have to re-make those games, but let's try the easy way first.

[General Brock II]

Dukasaur, we have a problem with 1RFG vs MB. You have put the wrong Agent 86 in, I wondered why the games weren't showing in my waiting list so checked. I'm Agent 86 who represents 1RFG and I never knew until now that there is another player under this name Agent86..wow confusing for me, how did this happen and I only found out now.

86

Ok, I'll write to him and ask him to drop the game. Luckily the games won't start until Team 2 joins.

Good catch, 86. haha I guess you didn't copy and paste, dukasaur? I had the space in there. Ahh well, it's all good, since you've got it sorted.

[Agent 86]

Okay, PM sent. If worst comes to worst I'll have to re-make those games, but let's try the easy way first.

He dropped the games, so we are ready to go again

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[Dukasaur]

Dukasaur, we have a problem with 1RFG vs MB. You have put the wrong Agent 86 in, I wondered why the games weren't showing in my waiting list so checked. I'm Agent 86 who represents 1RFG and I never knew until now that there is another player under this name Agent86..wow confusing for me, how did this happen and I only found out now.

86

Ok, I'll write to him and ask him to drop the game. Luckily the games won't start until Team 2 joins.

Good catch, 86. haha I guess you didn't copy and paste, dukasaur? I had the space in there. Ahh well, it's all good, since you've got it sorted.

No I don't copy and paste, I just type it in full the first time and then I let the auto-complete help me after that.

The really ironic thing is that I was watching for mistakes. Several clans DID send me rosters with mistakes in them and I caught them all, but yours was correct and I managed to add a mistake.

Oh, the perversity of the universe.

[dazza2008]

Dukasaur, we have a problem with 1RFG vs MB. You have put the wrong Agent 86 in, I wondered why the games weren't showing in my waiting list so checked. I'm Agent 86 who represents 1RFG and I never knew until now that there is another player under this name Agent86..wow confusing for me, how did this happen and I only found out now.

86

Ok, I'll write to him and ask him to drop the game. Luckily the games won't start until Team 2 joins.

Good catch, 86. haha I guess you didn't copy and paste, dukasaur? I had the space in there. Ahh well, it's all good, since you've got it sorted.

No I don't copy and paste, I just type it in full the first time and then I let the auto-complete help me after that.

The really ironic thing is that I was watching for mistakes. Several clans DID send me rosters with mistakes in them and I caught them all, but yours was correct and I managed to add a mistake.

Oh, the perversity of the universe.

[Dukasaur]

Ok, time to send your away rosters.

So far, I have gotten the away rosters for TNC and DBC. The other six must send them to me by midnighrt tonight.

[ScaryTeded]

Dubs:
1. USA Southeast- rjhankey, Faro, chained, no spoils, foggy
2. Europe1914- , chained, no spoils, foggy -Gumby, , braddersp,
Trips:
1. Africa -no spoils chained/foggy -kuma32478,Yellow Peril
2. Lunar War -no spoils,chained,foggy -totalacid1,biggz
Quads:
1.Poker Club- , chained, no spoils, foggy- rjhankey,Jimmy V,ScaryTeded,
2. Clandamonium -no spoils,chained,foggy -Benzorrr,Faro, Jimmy V, J_Indr

[JP007]

DB roster for Away games vs LOTZ

Dubs:
1.Unification Germany - 2007spaceodyssey Aaron234
2. Alantis - Dualta General Smithas

Trips:
1.8 Thoughts - dr.liltz Karl_R_Kroenen Willo.Kings
2.All Your Base Are Belong To Us - PatXCore jay1471 Matt2006

Quads:
1.feudal epic -shaneback jp007 wolfmaster deathcomesrippin
2.Balkan Peninsula - BuckySinister LLC22 NooNooNinners fire_dragon

[Dukasaur]

Ok, time to send your away rosters.

So far, I have gotten the away rosters for TNC and DBC. The other six must send them to me by midnighrt tonight.

Five teams (TNC, DBC, SOH, TLW, and MB) sent their away rosters correctly and on time.


DB posted their away roster today (late but correct):

DB roster for Away games vs LOTZ

Dubs:
1.Unification Germany - 2007spaceodyssey Aaron234
2. Alantis - Dualta General Smithas

Trips:
1.8 Thoughts - dr.liltz Karl_R_Kroenen Willo.Kings
2.All Your Base Are Belong To Us - PatXCore jay1471 Matt2006

Quads:
1.feudal epic -shaneback jp007 wolfmaster deathcomesrippin
2.Balkan Peninsula - BuckySinister LLC22 NooNooNinners fire_dragon

LOTZ sent the following (on time but not correct):

Dubs:
1. USA Southeast- rjhankey, Faro, chained, no spoils, foggy
2. Europe1914- , chained, no spoils, foggy -Gumby, , braddersp,
Trips:
1. Africa -no spoils chained/foggy -kuma32478,Yellow Peril
2. Lunar War -no spoils,chained,foggy -totalacid1,biggz
Quads:
1.Poker Club- , chained, no spoils, foggy- rjhankey,Jimmy V,ScaryTeded,
2. Clandamonium -no spoils,chained,foggy -Benzorrr,Faro, Jimmy V, J_Indr

1RFG has not sent an away roster at all.

The rules provided for a mandatory penalty if teams were late submitting their Home roster. However, reading as carefully as I can, there doesn't seem to be a penalty for being late with your Away roster. So, everybody is okay for now, but please let's not delay things!

[General Brock II]

1RFG Away Games:

Doubles:
Age of Realms I - General Brock II & mr. CD
High Seas - Pirlo & italianipastido

Triples:
Feudal War - MarshallBobby, jasoncederblom, Agent 86
Das Schloss - General Brock II, mr. CD & ask me2

Quads:
New World: Agent 86, Colonel Krink, Baby-Bjorn, spartan2
Classic: A Co. Crarg, queen victorious, Onagras, hiloopy

Cheers and sorry about the delay! Thanks, Dukasaur, for keeping me straight and on track. I got a bit confused with the scheduling.

General Brock II

[Dukasaur]

1RFG Away Games:

Doubles:
Age of Realms I - General Brock II & mr. CD
High Seas - Pirlo & italianipastido

Triples:
Feudal War - MarshallBobby, jasoncederblom, Agent 86
Das Schloss - General Brock II, mr. CD & ask me2

Quads:
New World: Agent 86, Colonel Krink, Baby-Bjorn, spartan2
Classic: A Co. Crarg, queen victorious, Onagras, hiloopy

Cheers and sorry about the delay! Thanks, Dukasaur, for keeping me straight and on track. I got a bit confused with the scheduling.

General Brock II

No probs. It is a bit confusing; I find myself going back and re-re-re-reading it....

[Leehar]

The rules provided for a mandatory penalty if teams were late submitting their Home roster. However, reading as carefully as I can, there doesn't seem to be a penalty for being late with your Away roster. So, everybody is okay for now, but please let's not delay things!

Isn't there a random assignation of players to games? Using the 10 player list handed in at the beginning?

[Dukasaur]

The rules provided for a mandatory penalty if teams were late submitting their Home roster. However, reading as carefully as I can, there doesn't seem to be a penalty for being late with your Away roster. So, everybody is okay for now, but please let's not delay things!

Isn't there a random assignation of players to games? Using the 10 player list handed in at the beginning?

I read it carefully, and it only says that if they are late with their Home roster, they will have members randomly assigned to 2 of their Away games, but it doesn't say the same penalty applies if they are late with their Away roster.

[Dukasaur]

The rules provided for a mandatory penalty if teams were late submitting their Home roster. However, reading as carefully as I can, there doesn't seem to be a penalty for being late with your Away roster. So, everybody is okay for now, but please let's not delay things!

Isn't there a random assignation of players to games? Using the 10 player list handed in at the beginning?

I read it carefully, and it only says that if they are late with their Home roster, they will have members randomly assigned to 2 of their Away games, but it doesn't say the same penalty applies if they are late with their Away roster.

I guess I didn't dig deeply enough.

Looking here:
Subject: The Clan League Vase
We find:

All other rules from CL4 apply to the knock-out tournaments (settings, deadlines for map and player list submissions etc).

And following that to here:
Subject: Clan League Season 4 Sign Up's
We find:

[*]The primary contacts are also asked to PM to their Division Director their players for away games according to the weekly schedule (see below). If the deadline is not met the the Division Director will randomly invite players from the clan's preliminary player list (provided at the start of the season). Once details are sent to the Division Director there will be no changes allowed.

So, I should have penalized the offending teams and invited random players.



Well, this is a case of the Umpire being tired and senile, and unless someone wants to appeal to the League office I would say that letting the ruling stand is the lesser of two evils.

[cookie0117]

Im happy for the ruling to stand. The rules for these tournaments are quite long winded and you dont have the benefit of having been through the clan league first and all the many many pages of discussion there.

As a learning curve the rules of these tournaments are pretty steep

[dazza2008]

I think 1 RFG should be kicked out of this. All its member banned from the site and Brock should be shot.

[TheCrown]

I think 1 RFG should be kicked out of this. All its member banned from the site and Brock should be shot.

Pull Brock's toenails off 1st, then shoot.

[Dukasaur]

Im happy for the ruling to stand. The rules for these tournaments are quite long winded and you dont have the benefit of having been through the clan league first and all the many many pages of discussion there.

As a learning curve the rules of these tournaments are pretty steep

True, that!

Anyway, all teams have now sent their Away rosters, and all invites for Home and Away games have been sent, with the following exception: Game 11020813. I accidentally invited azezzo, and I'm going to wait for him to drop the game before inviting the correct team, just to make sure.

Once all Home and Away games have started, I'll start looking at the tiebreaker rosters.

[Agent 86]

I think 1 RFG should be kicked out of this. All its member banned from the site and Brock should be shot.

Yes, but the military tribunal has ruled in his favor. Otherwise 1RFG would have proceeded with a court martial and shot him ourselves.

Pull Brock's toenails off 1st, then shoot.

No we don't condone the torture of anyone !!, waterboarding is excepted though

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