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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(2)

Postby benga on Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:47 pm

VioIet wrote:I have to say that I'm not liking how the scoring is being updated here. Gunn, if you are going to give The Pigs credits for wins, before they have actually won the game, then you should do the same for RA.

The actual score right now should read Pigs (4) RA (2).

Where do you get this Pigs (6) RA (2) from? If you're going to factor in 2 games that The Pigs haven't won yet, then you might as well credit RA with the three remaining Pearl Harbor games.

However, I would prefer for you to wait until a game is actually finished, from both sides.


the score 6-2 is correct, maybe you should read on rules first?
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(2)

Postby VioIet on Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:52 pm

I just realized that it is possible that Gunn is doing the scoring by points, instead of by wins. I keep forgetting that the ACC Cup is determined by the most number of points. If that is the case Gunn, then please disregard my prior post.

Also, Gunn can you please put points somewhere on the tittle, so I won't forget that its the points being calculated.

When I see the number within the parenthesis, I think it means number of wins.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(2)

Postby VioIet on Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:54 pm

Looks like I was fast-posted by Benga:

benga wrote:
the score 6-2 is correct, maybe you should read on rules first?



It's correct if it is 6 points vs 2 points. It's incorrect if its 6 wins vs 2 wins.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(2)

Postby Gunn217 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:32 pm

Thanks for seeing it correctly, Benga.

The score in the title is correct, Violet. If I was counting games that weren't yet finished I would would put a little indicator by the game. And why would I care to only count the games that were in our favor? The only score that matters is the final one.

And I don't get where the attitude is coming from. I put in a public post that you guys were stomping us right now despite the close score.

There is no reason to put "points" in the title. The score is the score. All of the ACC games for two years have been scored this way.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(2)

Postby eggrollonedolla on Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:42 pm

I would assume his attitude would be coming from feeling disrespected in some way. I think embarrassed is more the case now. Mistakes happen.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(2)

Postby Gunn217 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:53 pm

I think he's a her, eggy. Unlike you, who is a hermaphroditic pig-man!

And I don't know how I can respect someone more than publicly saying that they are kicking our asses.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(3)

Postby alt1978 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:50 am

I think we've been pretty forthcoming with how horrible some of these early games have been going. Well played set so far RA. Now that we have the count settled, we should be able to get back to business.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(3)

Postby benga on Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:10 am

VioIet wrote:RA's Singles Games

Player 1: Trailman- Benelux, flat rate, chained, sunny
Player 2: Scipio79- Europe1914, No spoils, chained, fog
Player 3: doublediamond-Age of Merchants, no spoils, chained, fog
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(2)

Postby VioIet on Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:41 am

Gunn217 wrote:Thanks for seeing it correctly, Benga.

The score in the title is correct, Violet. If I was counting games that weren't yet finished I would would put a little indicator by the game. And why would I care to only count the games that were in our favor? The only score that matters is the final one.

And I don't get where the attitude is coming from. I put in a public post that you guys were stomping us right now despite the close score.

There is no reason to put "points" in the title. The score is the score. All of the ACC games for two years have been scored this way.


Well that's interesting because in the two years that RA has been in the ACC cup, I always put the number of wins in the title, as that was much easier for me to calculate. Someone else did the points total or me. It didn't seem to be a big deal of how I did it in the title, because the final score was indeed based on points.

I think putting whether it was number of games won, or number of points would make things more clear, especially for me. However, it's your choice how you want to post it. Now that I understand, I will respect that.

As far as where my "attitude," is coming from, I don't see my post being nearly as harsh and dramatic as you and your squad are making it out to be. Second, I do tell you to disregard the post later on. Third, I think if anyone felt bothered that the clan they were playing against wasn't showing the score correctly, that they would bring it to attention. Also, they probably wouldn't be stating it in an "overly sweet" kind of tone. Likewise, when you felt that I was accusing you of manipulating the score, you weren't exactly happy about it either. Same exact thing.


alt1978 wrote:ink we've been pretty forthcoming with how horrible some of these early games have been going. Well played set so far RA. Now that we have the count settled, we should be able to get back to business.


That is actually not accurate from my point of view. In my current predictions I have The Pigs winning 11 games and RA winning 8. 14 games are still open and aren't swinging towards any particular side as of yet. And I have never heard anything from either side about how horrible a game has been :?


Gunn217 wrote:And I don't know how I can respect someone more than publicly saying that they are kicking our asses.


Well, the outcome of a war would be a public result in itself. Simply factual. However, I don't believe that RA is winning quite as much as The Pigs may have you believe. It's interesting how we see it so differently. From my point of view, we are struggling in quite a few games, and trying to turn things around.


eggrollonedolla wrote:I would assume his attitude would be coming from feeling disrespected in some way. I think embarrassed is more the case now. Mistakes happen.


HE????

Wow, I never knew that Violet was a guy's name. :shock: But other than strangely mixing up my gender, you hit the nail straight on the head. Imagine my mindset: of course I would feel slighted if I felt that the clan I was playing against was giving themselves more wins than they actually had, without doing the same for the other clan. I want the score to be as fairly represented as possible. I am sure that we all do.

Then, yes I was embarrassed when I realized my mistake. Which is I made a subsequent post admitting my possible misunderstanding, and telling Gunn to disregard my first post. Seems like no one even bothered to read it... :roll: If so, this would be a non-issue.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(2)

Postby doublediamond on Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:29 am

eggrollonedolla wrote:I would assume his attitude would be coming from feeling disrespected in some way. I think embarrassed is more the case now. Mistakes happen.


i think you are right, a mistake was made, is all.

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back to the games, i got my first taste here Game 12219738, and it was good, but i am still achin for some more bacon yup yup yup.

these are not winnie the pooh piglets we are dealing with here. more like bepop and rocksteady. anyone remember them?
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(3)

Postby padsta on Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:28 am

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line drawn under the whole issue, now lets get back to enjoying the war
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(3)

Postby Janomike on Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:30 am

Well played games so far, no place for mistakes against you guys :(

Very interesting war so far.

You guys are really lucky that i stopped eating pork lately ;)
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(6) vs RA(3)

Postby Gunn217 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:52 am

I'm going to leave the score as it is. I think it would be more confusing to put the games won in the heading, then change the score after calculating it at the end.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(18) vs RA(11)

Postby Gunn217 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:20 pm

We remade the PIG singles game due to a labeling error on my part.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(18) vs RA(11)

Postby Conchobar on Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:45 am

So pedantic.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(18) vs RA(11)

Postby VioIet on Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:16 am

Conchobar wrote:So pedantic.


I like pedanticness :) If that is even a word though... :?

Thank you for remaking the games Gunn. I plan to make RA's tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. I know my "busy-ness" lately has been annoying, but I should finally have some time tomorrow.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(25) vs RA(30)

Postby Janomike on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:39 am

sorry but according to the ACC rules, the indian empire Game 12212957
should not count as victory for you guys:

"A round limit of 20 rounds (for singles and doubles) and 30 rounds (for trips and quads) will be set - there will be no result if there is no winner within the limit. It is anticipated that this will only occur extremely rarely and is only introduced to prevent a stalemate-game from holding the tournament up."

same goes for Game 12329342 but this doesnt change the result of the single bout as scipio
won the other game!
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(25) vs RA(30)

Postby Gunn217 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:13 am

Janomike wrote:sorry but according to the ACC rules, the indian empire Game 12212957
should not count as victory for you guys:

"A round limit of 20 rounds (for singles and doubles) and 30 rounds (for trips and quads) will be set - there will be no result if there is no winner within the limit. It is anticipated that this will only occur extremely rarely and is only introduced to prevent a stalemate-game from holding the tournament up."

same goes for Game 12329342 but this doesnt change the result of the single bout as scipio
won the other game!


Yeah, the games was supposed to be made with a round limit. But it shouldn't matter. Whoever wins the monsters game wins the war. And you guys appear to be winning that one.

EDIT: Assuming we win NYC.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(25) vs RA(30)

Postby Conchobar on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:10 pm

Janomike wrote:"A round limit of 20 rounds (for singles and doubles) and 30 rounds (for trips and quads) will be set - there will be no result if there is no winner within the limit. It is anticipated that this will only occur extremely rarely and is only introduced to prevent a stalemate-game from holding the tournament up."


What a retarded rule.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(24) vs RA(30)

Postby Janomike on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:29 pm

I agree!
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(24) vs RA(30)

Postby Ickyketseddie on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:39 pm

I think it was put in for fear of hive no spoils or similar things holding up the tourney. Maybe he should have thought about putting a rule in for when the TO vanishes halfway through the competition! :lol:
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(24) vs RA(30)

Postby VioIet on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:12 am

LOL Eddie! :lol: :D

I agree that the rule is quite dumb, and I hate the round limits, to be honest. The Pigs really did deserve to have that win for the AH dubs game. But we have to stick to the rules.

I think maybe in consideration for ACC 3 (if there is one with a different TO), the round limit should count only on certain maps (such as Hive), and would be agreed to between to participating clans.

DS will be a win for The Pigs for sure. NYC will most likely be won by The Pigs, but it isn't over.

And as long as nothing crazy happens, I think RA will win Monsters.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(24) vs RA(30)

Postby Dibbler on Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:48 pm

What I can't understand is why 20 rounds for doubles games and 30 for trips and quads? Isn't it far less likely that a quads or trips game gets to 30 rounds? 20 in dubs, though unlikely is far more likely then 30 in trips and doubles. It should be the other way around or 30 for both or actually put the round limit in the games.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(24) vs RA(30)

Postby Gunn217 on Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:22 pm

13th Quads Game
Game 12219772--Italy(R) **RA**

This game has been listed as a tiebreaker. It was actually just the 13th Quad Random game. Fixed the OP to read correctly.
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Re: [ACC2] PIG(26) vs RA(30)

Postby John Deere on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:39 pm

WOW! Nice showing RA! We noticed you guys playing better last time we played :)
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Thanks grifftron for the pic! Your the man:)
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