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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby nagerous on Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:04 pm

AgentSmith88 wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:Nice job JP, well done (I thought you'd gone quiet for a while, now I know why).

Am I alone in thinking the results would look better written W-T-L (rather than W-L-T) as I find the losing result put in the centre is somewhat deceptive?
5-2-0 should be superior to 5-0-2, yet that's not how it appears. Small matter, but more aesthetically pleasing (and more logical). Thanks :D

(oh...and rank the clans based on Win %)

j/k


You crazy europeans and your soccer. jp was right in that its WLT in North America and WTL with you soccer hooligans. Just a matter of what you are used to.

Nice job on the ladder jp. And anyone who thinks they are undervalued could actually undergo a clan war sometime this year and prove it. (not pointing any fingers.. cough...KORT...cough) :)


No Europeans play soccer...
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby jpcloet on Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:12 pm

Lol, Soccer = Footy

I think we are going to need a translator...
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby nagerous on Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:44 am

I am aware of that, I was being deliberately pedantic. Us British loathe at the thought of football being described as 'soccer'.
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby shaneback on Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:28 am

JP,

We just finished our second challenge, will we be added at the next update?

Thanks

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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby jpcloet on Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:30 am

Likely in 2 weeks when league is near completed.
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby reptile on Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:50 pm

this is the first ive seen this. though i dont agree with everything on here... i think it will do the job and is probably one of the more accurate ones so far. nice job jp... no complaints here. LoW will just have to continue charging until we get back to #2, then we will overthrow THOTA for #1 like we came so closely to months ago...

also i agree... it should be WLT not WTL
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby Eyestone on Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:47 pm

reptile wrote:also i agree... it should be WLT not WTL


Crazy americans... :roll:
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby reptile on Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:15 pm

Eyestone wrote:
reptile wrote:also i agree... it should be WLT not WTL


Crazy americans... :roll:


perhaps ;)
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby shaneback on Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:40 pm

jpcloet wrote:Likely in 2 weeks when league is near completed.


Great

Thanks for the fast reply, I know you have put a lot of work into the ranking system. I am interested to see where we fall

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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby waseemalim on Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:11 am

WTL man. this is confusing.
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby jpcloet on Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:15 am

waseemalim wrote:WTL man. this is confusing.


Well I can add another column later I guess then and give it a special color for our special European friends.
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby AgentSmith88 on Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:11 pm

Or we could come up with rules that allow for sudden death so there are no more ties. That would eliminate the problem entirely. Perhaps instead of 40 or 60 games it could be 41 or 61 games. :D (I realize it could take up to 2 years for the remaining ties to be gone from the ladder)
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby reptile on Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:14 pm

that makes too much sense AS88 ;)
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby cpurcell on Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:25 pm

... why does the Nemesis vs. Empire war count? Nemesis did not become an A clan until after our war with BSS... This seems like manipulation of data, which is why I think that the whole A-B system is bad because it doesn't count some wars.

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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby FrancisBoyle on Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:27 pm

AgentSmith88 wrote:Or we could come up with rules that allow for sudden death so there are no more ties. That would eliminate the problem entirely. Perhaps instead of 40 or 60 games it could be 41 or 61 games. :D (I realize it could take up to 2 years for the remaining ties to be gone from the ladder)


This idea FTW. Why not make it best of 3: 1 dubs, 1 trips, and 1 quads. How would the maps and settings be decided?
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby pmchugh on Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:28 pm

cpurcell wrote:... why does the Nemesis vs. Empire war count? Nemesis did not become an A clan until after our war with BSS... This seems like manipulation of data, which is why I think that the whole A-B system is bad because it doesn't count some wars.

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Haha corey I don't think it should be discounted (although neither should some the others imo). Empire whipped us amd we deserve to be marked down for it, myth look like they are on their way to being a-rated though so does that mean our rank will go up? :lol:
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby reptile on Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:59 pm

jpcloet wrote:Well I can add another column later I guess then and give it a special color for our special European friends.



HAHAHA I just read this!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby cpurcell on Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:53 pm

pmchugh wrote:
cpurcell wrote:... why does the Nemesis vs. Empire war count? Nemesis did not become an A clan until after our war with BSS... This seems like manipulation of data, which is why I think that the whole A-B system is bad because it doesn't count some wars.

---C


Haha corey I don't think it should be discounted (although neither should some the others imo). Empire whipped us amd we deserve to be marked down for it, myth look like they are on their way to being a-rated though so does that mean our rank will go up? :lol:


That's exactly my point. I think that all wars should count, but that if they're only going to count certain battles (A vs. A, and discount the A vs. B), they should discount all of the wars that meet that criteria, and not selectively enforce it. If JP's going to discount all of our wins vs. what are now considered B clans, why should he not discount our loss to an A clan when we were still considered a B clan?

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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby nagerous on Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:26 am

jpcloet wrote:
waseemalim wrote:WTL man. this is confusing.


Well I can add another column later I guess then and give it a special colour for our special European friends.


Typo fixed.
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby jpcloet on Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:10 am

Now that's funny. I've given up on some Canadianisms with this site. I wonder if anyone will find the type lol.
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby AgentSmith88 on Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:16 pm

nagerous wrote:
jpcloet wrote:
waseemalim wrote:WTL man. this is confusing.


Well I can add another column later I guess then and give it a special colour for our special European friends.


Typo fixed.
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby wercool on Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:15 pm

did you use this formula
wp*((owp/50)*(oowp/50)
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby jpcloet on Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:16 pm

wercool wrote:did you use this formula
wp*((owp/50)*(oowp/50)


It is a lot more complicated than that.....but it does follow that general principle.
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby Dai_atan on Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:01 pm

sorry if you've been asked before, I skipped the thread but does conquercup count towards the ladder rankings? because if it does Legion is about to take down ID in that.
Also we recently defeated O&H in a proper war. Don't know if that is counted in yet but I figured I'd mention it. :)
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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Postby jpcloet on Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:04 pm

It would qualify, and yes I'm inclined to include the 40+ series. I'm currently (as we speak actually) trying to figure out how to include A&B together as it's one of the key requests around the ladder.
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