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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby amazzony on Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:50 am

I kinda understand what you mean and I don't want to get you off track or push my views on you but I think that the template that I put together from CoF's ideas could be something that each clan has under their profile in Clanpedia. You want a more personal approach of each clan and that can be done for sure, added later as additional information. I'm sure every clan can put together a few paragrahp history/essey/whatever about their clan, their doings and most important qualities. It will just take time to get that info. Perhaps it's better to start with a simple form, get some attention to the project, get ideas and discussion flowing and then move from there.

You mentioned the the information in the form is something that can simply found in the forums. Maybe it can but I think that it can be found even faster when it's all gathered to one topic - to Clanpedia. When I first read the topic then I understood/imagined that this could be a place where everything about clans can be found easily and from one place. That's why I created the form, to plant a seed so it can start growing. Of course, if I understand it differently then you do then I'm sorry and, as I mentioned before, I don't want to butt in and mix your vision!
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Leehar on Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:42 am

No, of course not, thats what my predominant vision was as well. And therefore I'm pretty much agreeing with most of what you're saying as well. My only concern is, that when sending out these template to the clan leaders, and if the information they'd put into the templates is stuff thats readily available, I'll be berated at for not doing it myself? And I guess that may very well be true, since perhaps I haven't put as much energy into this as I should have.
So yeah, I may have been a bit lazy in collating all the necessary information, but it's never nice to be caught out being actively lazy (ie foisting the task on to others). So I guess I just basically felt that if I requested something from the clan leaders that required a bit more of there input, it would be easier?

But anyway, I think you are right, specially with regards to starting simply and getting the ball rolling, so I think I'll just swallow my pride (what little of it I have left ;) ) and just go ahead with your template and sending it to clan leaders.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby amazzony on Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:47 am

You shouldn't look at it like that. You have quite a big job ahead. First you have to look up all the clans, make a list of leaders, message them all. Then collect all the data, put it into correct form (I'm sure you'll get answers back in all kind of forms and ways) and finally post to public. And, like I might of mentioned before, you should collect data about the "dead" clans also (clans that once existed but have fallen apart now). Later you have to make sure that data is updated, answer questions, keep up with the discussion and keep developing the project. There's plenty of work for you, don't worry :D

Whenever you need help, don't hesitate to message me.

Oh, and perhaps let me finish G1 form first so you would have a fully filled example to show to clan leaders? I need a day or two to collect links if you allow me to do it and want to use it as an example.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Leehar on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:07 am

That may be nice ;)
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby amazzony on Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:24 am

Well, I've updated G1 form and it should be more or less ready, it's in this post.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Leehar on Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:49 am

Ok, I think I'll send it out some time tomorrow. Then most of the clans will have the weekend to go over what they'd like to put into it.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Master Fenrir on Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:11 pm

You need to edit my name out of the IA info.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby pmchugh on Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:21 pm

Master Fenrir wrote:You need to edit my name out of the IA info.


Interesting, although this does pose a problem with this idea. There are many parts of this that are incorrect and keeping the data up to date once it has all been gathered will be difficult.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Leehar on Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:04 am

Master Fenrir wrote:You need to edit my name out of the IA info.

tbh, you're still in the IA thread memberlist as well >_<
So where are you now anyway? flying solo?

pmchugh wrote:
Interesting, although this does pose a problem with this idea. There are many parts of this that are incorrect and keeping the data up to date once it has all been gathered will be difficult.

I'm only as good as my sources ;)
Thats why in Amaz's template, it helps having the links to the appropriate places, since even if the thread doesn't stay updated, the link to the usergroup memberlist will still be up-to-date
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Georgerx7di on Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:44 pm

Just a comment for TSM. We do still accept new members, we're not totally closed. We don't have a recruitment thread or advertise it, but we do consider people if they are good. Usually new members just talk to one of us directly and ask to join. Recruitment is slow because we like to thorough, and for that I apologize in advance to anyone who applies. Anyway, maybe you could edit it to say, something like selective recruiting or something like that.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Leehar on Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:50 pm

Template wrote:
show: clan name - abbr here


And, here's an example with some data about the clan, G1
show: Generation One The Clan - G1 - GenOne



The following clans (leaders) have been contacted with this template:
show: Clan


I know I intended to send this out a few weeks ago, but stuff came up... :oops:
Anyway, message sent to as many people as I could find. Now to sit and await the deluge... 8-[
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Leehar on Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:47 am

Ok, I've gotten submissions in from Memento Mori and A Fistful of 6's so the first post has been updated.
And from what I know, Thota, Kort, Aod, and the Devils Brigade will be working on theirs.
Also, there's no reason to rush this. As long as you're happy with the information you're giving or being given on you possibly being the main source on your clan. And also, to make the entry perhaps a bit cleaner, it might be helpful quoting the message, and inserting the information directly into the appropriate place
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby JoshyBoy on Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:55 pm

I've submitted TIME's. Short and sweet. Good luck with this, it will be hard work keeping it all up to date.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Incandenza on Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:57 pm

Indeed, I'm working on the THOTA one.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby amazzony on Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:36 pm

Just a note:
Memento Mori [MM] - Memberlist link not working.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby Leehar on Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:08 pm

amazzony wrote:Just a note:
Memento Mori [MM] - Memberlist link not working.

Yeah, I had the same problem with the link AFoS gave me as well. It seems that when you go through someones wall to their clan, it gives you https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=group without the actual identifying '&g=193040' at the end. Not really sure why that happens, but I just went through the control panel and usergroups to enter the right data in.

I've also decided to do away with the CC cup, league and Other links options for those clans that have N/A (not applicable) in those fields. I think it'll just save some clutter.

And in other news, entries for Time and Dynasty have been inserted.
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Re: Clan Information and Lists (Clanpedia?)

Postby jpcloet on Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:13 pm

You have to go through the control panel to get the proper link to the group. Not sure why that is.
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Re: The C.C.C.C.C

Postby Commander9 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:37 pm

Why is this not stickied?
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: The C.C.C.C.C

Postby QoH on Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:04 pm

Can you add in TNC?
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Re: The C.C.C.C.C

Postby Leehar on Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:05 pm

Commander9 wrote:Why is this not stickied?

Lol, I was more worried that this would get carried away into the sin-bin since I haven't really been able to compile all the info I wanted to. (Nice resurrection btw, at least the clean-up made it more visible ;))
I think I've gotten experienced enough on my own to be able to put a relatively detailed enough sketch in place myself, just need to find the time and effort to put into this while still working on other projects.

QoH wrote:Can you add in TNC?

Lol, it was initially intended that clans submit their own info and it can be compiled in the template fashion we discussed a page or 2 back. That didn't really work out as plans so I seem to have a mismatch on the template (good) info and just some random challenge or recruitment thread outlines which I'm not so happy with as adequate representation.

If we can get a collaborative process going it can still work out nicely, but otherwise it may just end up needing me as a 1 man army to do all the info gathering which I haven't been up to performing as yet.
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Re: The C.C.C.C.C

Postby Commander9 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:11 pm

Leehar wrote:Lol, I was more worried that this would get carried away into the sin-bin since I haven't really been able to compile all the info I wanted to. (Nice resurrection btw, at least the clean-up made it more visible ;))
I think I've gotten experienced enough on my own to be able to put a relatively detailed enough sketch in place myself, just need to find the time and effort to put into this while still working on other projects.


Well, I think it already is a fairly good thread with good representation that would be useful to those, who are not too knowledgeable about CC clans. I'm sure that you will tailor it to be a bit more eye-friendly, but it's already a good thread that should be accessible to anyone who is interested in CC Clans (A name change would be a good idea as well).

Also, if you need some help with this, I do believe I'd be able to help you out a bit.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: The C.C.C.C.C

Postby Leehar on Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:38 pm

k, I'll get in touch with you tomorrow then to see if we can improve it a bit.
I quite liked the name tho ;)
We can still go back to clanpedia I guess
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Re: The C.C.C.C.C

Postby ckyrias on Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:40 am

hey mate.
if you need details on TNC let me know in which format and i will provide all info necessary!
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Re: The C.C.C.C.C

Postby Leehar on Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:38 pm

Unfortunately I don't really have the time (or energy) to chase the respective clans for their info (the curse of taking on other duties), but I have included the Vdll info that JBlombier sent me.

It's kinda ironic that when I started this I didn't have the knowledge of clans and needed to try hunt out info, and now that I do consider myself knowledgeable on the different clans around, I still am unable to complete the project for other reasons. #-o
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Re: The C.C.C.C.C

Postby chemefreak on Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:45 pm

Leehar wrote:Unfortunately I don't really have the time (or energy) to chase the respective clans for their info (the curse of taking on other duties), but I have included the Vdll info that JBlombier sent me.

It's kinda ironic that when I started this I didn't have the knowledge of clans and needed to try hunt out info, and now that I do consider myself knowledgeable on the different clans around, I still am unable to complete the project for other reasons. #-o


Yeah, this was going to be a bitch! One of the reasons that we started a "Clan Challenge" Thread was to make the general clan section a kind of "History" section for clans. So we have recruitment in one, challenges in another, and this general section is for histories. There are quite a few clans that have been using this section for just that purpose, including mine, so clans are encouraged to start their own history thread. Perhaps once most clans have a history thread this project will be a bit more manageable.
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