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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 18-6]

Postby Qwert on Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:11 am

no i dont forget, kort lost and still dont see official end of second semi.
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 18-6]

Postby therev1957 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:30 pm

The pack just locked in the win in the Newcomers Cup! =D> =D> =D>
We are new, but you WILL be hearing from us! :o
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 18-6]

Postby Qwert on Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:36 am

add to table
cl3: IA vs TSM 10-9 [18]
GRIM vs KOA 21-27 [50]
cc2:TOFU vs BOFM 22-19 [32]
TNC vs MYT 27-33 [56]
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 18-6]

Postby Qwert on Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:54 am

add to table
cc2:IA vs FOED 12-29 [48]

1RFG vs RISK 24-16 [53]

nc:GRIM vs PACK 17-26 [42]---(6th consecutive win for pack in 2011 year)

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AKA vs LOTZ
OSA vs VDLL
KOA vs IGF
TNC vs DBC
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 18-6]

Postby Leehar on Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:27 am

What I'd like to know about this ranking, is how much of an effect the end score has on it? It seems to me it's just a simple win/loss calculation over amount of games? Rather than the actual score between the 2. So for example, I wouldn't expect bofm to lose as many points when they're already playing 13v2 in score. Sometimes you can mostly tell which team will win a contest, does that mean it's not worth playing in, when it's still up in the air how close you can get to victory?
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby Qwert on Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:49 am

""by Leehar on Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:27 pm

What I'd like to know about this ranking, is how much of an effect the end score has on it? It seems to me it's just a simple win/loss calculation over amount of games? Rather than the actual score between the 2. So for example, I wouldn't expect bofm to lose as many points when they're already playing 13v2 in score. Sometimes you can mostly tell which team will win a contest, does that mean it's not worth playing in, when it's still up in the air how close you can get to victory?""
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby John Deere on Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:57 pm

1-PACK---6---1258


Finally a clan ranking system that got it right...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :P
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby Lubawski on Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:39 pm

I like how this system encourages farming, especially of new clans.

:roll: That's one of the reasons we moved away from a ELO ranking long ago.
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby John Deere on Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:14 pm

Lubawski wrote:I like how this system encourages farming, especially of new clans.

:roll: That's one of the reasons we moved away from a ELO ranking long ago.


Are you suggesting we have been farming? Well there was KOA..... :lol:
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby grifftron on Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:26 am

Lubawski wrote:I like how this system encourages farming, especially of new clans.

:roll: That's one of the reasons we moved away from a ELO ranking long ago.



Then stop looking at it, you clearly have not moved away from it if you keep following it... And we are a new clan, are we suppose to farm old clans to be worthy?
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby Qwert on Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:01 am

farming? You want to say that Pack(new formed clan) are play against most weak clans here like GRIM-BSS-OSA?
You need to give more explanation how its these farming? Who PACK need to defeat so that these not be considered farming?
Your clan are in 3rd position, and you can easily change board , just take chalenge against PACK, and prove that you are better, quite simple.Its not nice to call all these clans are worthless.
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby Great-Ollie on Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:11 am

Although i love the ranking lol. I do agree these rankings are not as accurate as the other ones, but it is kind of fun to be number 1.
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby Qwert on Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:41 am

actualy nobody have ranking related only to 2011 years-all other ranking are related on acumulated results from all chalenges and all years.
Ofcourse you dont think that Chuuck or Blitzaholic ranking are acurated,because they not use any results only people feels abouth clans.
Farang say something,when he get free time to create hes board related on 2011,so then we will compare results.
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby shocked439 on Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:12 am

This system is great since it mimics the individual elo already in place and tells us just about as much as those little icons next to our names.

Having said that you cannot discredit the pack for making some waves. Sure they weren't formed in tge scrap heap of an old clan bit is that any reason to not respect them and what they've done. They've beaten everyone willing to challenge them.
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby VampireM on Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:37 pm

Lubawski wrote:I like how this system encourages farming, especially of new clans.

:roll: That's one of the reasons we moved away from a ELO ranking long ago.


Lol at everyone from the pack jumping on him got this comment.. what he is trying to say i believe is that it would be easy to move up in the rankings for known top clans to take on weaker clans... the pack is obliviously not ur average new clan.. you guys have done very well, congrats on ur win..
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby Qwert on Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:34 pm

finished chalenges-OSa 3 consecutive defeat. Minus 120 points
GRIM vs TLW 35-25 [55]
IGF vs TNC 18-23 [45]
RISK vs OSA 24-17 [39]
nc:OSA vs PACK 18-25 [40]
nc:GRIM vs OSA 25-18 [41]



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LEG vs BOFM
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-7]

Postby Qwert on Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:00 am

finished
MM vs TLW 25-35 [72]
RISK vs AKA 23-25 [52]
LOTZ vs OSA 18-23 [33]
DBC vs TFFS 16-24 [30]
TNC vs LOTZ 22-18 [35]


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acc:OHIO vs 1RFG
acc:TNC vs LEG
acc:OSA vs PIG
acc:AFOS vs AKA
acc:SOH vs LOTZ
acc:RISK vs AOD
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-8]

Postby Qwert on Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:09 am

new update, no big changes.
Big progress GRIM who move up for 18 places.
Big fall MM,drop from 14 place to 30 place
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-8]

Postby Qwert on Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:44 am

finished
GRIM vs MYT 18-24 [46]

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cc2:THOTA vs TSM
AFOS vs NEM
KOA vs LOTZ
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-8]

Postby Qwert on Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:21 am

finished chalenges
cc2:THOTA vs AOC 35-26 [57]
cc2:TSM vs LOW 40-21 [58]
cc2:TOFU vs EMP 21-40 [64]
ID vs G1 22-27 [60]
TNC vs PIG 15-28 [42]

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IA vs PACK
AKA vs GRIM
acc:1RFG vs AOD
acc:PIG vs AOC
acc:BSS vs DYN
acc:SOH vs BOFM
acc:MM vs NEM
acc:AFOS vs FOED
TNC vs BSS
ID vs TNC
HH vs MDR
ID vs TLW
BOFM vs OSA
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acc its trouble for calculation,because mine formula its multiple with number of games,and scores in Acc its totaly diferent when you look number of played games. need to figure what to do.
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-8]

Postby Qwert on Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:21 pm

LEG vs AOD 38-23
DEVB vs PIG 25-35
cc2:KORT vs FOED 39-22
AKA vs LOTZ 38-12
OSA vs VDLL 28-33
TNC vs DBC 35-6
LEG vs BOFM 17-24
acc:KOA vs DYN 15-25
acc:OHIO vs 1RFG 5-34
acc:TNC vs LEG 12-26
acc:OSA vs PIG 19-20
acc:RISK vs AOD 15-23
acc:TFFS vs BSS 18-21
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-8]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:37 pm

qwert. If your formula is this:

(loser's score / winner's score) *(number of games)

and the TOFU:Empire result was 21:40 (61 games)

How do you arrive at a figure of 64?
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 17-8]

Postby Leehar on Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:53 pm

2768/2646 * 61?
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 21-9]

Postby Qwert on Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:04 am

these is now old formula,now im use new formula who give you benefit from games also.


qwert. If your formula is this:

(loser's score / winner's score) *(number of games)

and the TOFU:Empire result was 21:40 (61 games)

How do you arrive at a figure of 64?


old formula whas related on average score (loser average score/winner average score)*(number of game).
new formula are strictly related on points, and now additionaly clan get points depend on win/loss games

Example
Tofu -1000 points
Empire-1000 points
Chalenge empire vs Tofu 40-21

Empire point calculation
(1000/1000)*61+(40-21)=80 points
empire will now have 1080 points

Tofu get -61 point from chalenge and additionaly -19 from game win/loss diference and will have 920 points.

In every chalenge separate ale calculate rank points and games
These mean that in next chalenge Empire score of 1061 points will be take for loser/winner* number of games part of formula, when game going to other part of formula separate,and together give total score points.
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Re: Active Clan ELO ranking 2011-[update 21-9]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:10 am

ah ok, thanks. You should edit your 1st post and write the new formula (coz that's where I was looking of course).

Thanks qwert
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