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if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:41 am
by khazalid
do KoRT forfeit their ccup win?

seems only fair to me...

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:05 am
by greenoaks
khazalid wrote:do KoRT forfeit their ccup win?

seems only fair to me...

as it is possible to get a point reset because you get busted doing things the site is against then yes, being stripped of any titles/medals you received should be an option if you did things the site is against to get them.

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:41 am
by lord voldemort
thota pay tofu??
the plot thickens

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:51 am
by khazalid
assuming they are subject to the same player-limitation violations that TOFU suffered, the cup would default to THOTA, no? where's chuuuck when you need him...

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:55 am
by lord voldemort
now a member of tofu ;)
lol...it just gets messy really..
the whole sitting issue just came up in the tofu challenge

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:12 am
by benga
khazalid wrote:assuming they are subject to the same player-limitation violations that TOFU suffered, the cup would default to THOTA, no? where's chuuuck when you need him...


LOL and why THOTA when Blitz is a sitter abuser?

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:14 am
by pascalleke
benga wrote:
khazalid wrote:assuming they are subject to the same player-limitation violations that TOFU suffered, the cup would default to THOTA, no? where's chuuuck when you need him...


LOL and why THOTA when Blitz is a sitter abuser?

Comparing Apples to Melons :-s

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:55 am
by jackal31
Personally, thats not the way I would want it.

During the challenge, everyone said "rules are rules" and TOFU should be disqualified from their match with KoRT for the "addition" problem. I think everyone in THOTA would agree we would want a match to play. But, on the pending ruling, should THOTA be awarded the 1st CCUP? I dont feel we would have justifiably won it, but going back to what everyone was saying......

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:58 am
by TheSaxlad
In that case:

KoRT: CCup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (josko)
THOTA:cup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (blitzaholic)
TOFU: Ccup win is nullified due to sitting abuse (CoF)

So by right the cup should default to the next highest clan which happens to be nemesis. If you all gonna try and take the cup on technicalities, then don't even both. KoRT won the Cup. Either move on or give it to nemesis.

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:04 am
by Leehar
Whoa, I'm not sure how exactly you arrived at that, but awesome! ;)

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:22 am
by Dako
TheSaxlad wrote:In that case:

KoRT: CCup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (josko)
THOTA:cup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (blitzaholic)
TOFU: Ccup win is nullified due to sitting abuse (CoF)

So by right the cup should default to the next highest clan which happens to be nemesis. If you all gonna try and take the cup on technicalities, then don't even both. KoRT won the Cup. Either move on or give it to nemesis.

How come CoF is a sitting abuse violator? Image

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:27 am
by jpcloet
And how does Blitz sitting in non-war games get included? Maybe I missed something.

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:32 am
by Fruitcake
jpcloet wrote:And how does Blitz sitting in non-war games get included? Maybe I missed something.


Story of your whole existence.

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:40 am
by jrh_cardinal
TheSaxlad wrote:In that case:

KoRT: CCup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (josko)
THOTA:cup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (blitzaholic)
TOFU: Ccup win is nullified due to sitting abuse (CoF)

So by right the cup should default to the next highest clan which happens to be nemesis. If you all gonna try and take the cup on technicalities, then don't even both. KoRT won the Cup. Either move on or give it to nemesis.

The 4th clan in the semis was LoW, not Nemesis. Just saying

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:09 am
by nagerous
Dako wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:In that case:

KoRT: CCup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (josko)
THOTA:cup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (blitzaholic)
TOFU: Ccup win is nullified due to sitting abuse (CoF)

So by right the cup should default to the next highest clan which happens to be nemesis. If you all gonna try and take the cup on technicalities, then don't even both. KoRT won the Cup. Either move on or give it to nemesis.

How come CoF is a sitting abuse violator? Image


I think he meant joining 16 games instead of 15.

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:26 am
by keyborn
TheSaxlad wrote:In that case:

KoRT: CCup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (josko)
THOTA:cup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (blitzaholic)
TOFU: Ccup win is nullified due to sitting abuse (CoF)

So by right the cup should default to the next highest clan which happens to be nemesis. If you all gonna try and take the cup on technicalities, then don't even both. KoRT won the Cup. Either move on or give it to nemesis.


These three examples are not the same type of circumstance. Your comparisons are more like should a team that won the World Series forfeit the Series win because one of their players was arrested and convicted of a crime that had nothing to do with the Series?

If the crime in question skewed the results (or had the potential to skew the results) of the Series, like throwing a game, ie. Shoeless Joe Jackson, then should the team forfeit the Series?

The abuse in question here occurred during the TOFU v KoRT and THOTA v KoRT clan wars. Therefore, since that abuse could have skewed the results of the clan wars, should the CC1 cup be forfeited?

Lets stick to comparing apples to apples.

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:31 am
by Ace Rimmer
CoF in the TOFU/KORT war was playing in 21 games instead of 20. If we hand any one of his wins to KORT, we still beat them in number of games won.

Josko taking both turns in his doubles games with moon plus sitting for many other players is different.

Blitz breaking the rules outside of the clan games doesn't matter, imho

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:36 am
by TheSaxlad
I know there are flaws in my logic.

I was just pointing out that if there was any sign that THOTA could even have a chance of winning the cup then they would.

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:10 am
by greenoaks
Blitz's infringement on non-clan games does not invalidate the efforts of hs clan

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:39 pm
by Incandenza
TheSaxlad wrote:I was just pointing out that if there was any sign that THOTA could even have a chance of winning the cup then they would.


I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Care to elaborate? I'd be particularly interested in knowing how you came to be so mentally attuned to the thought processes of 25 or so strangers on the internet.

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:54 pm
by owenshooter
pascalleke wrote:Comparing Apples to Melons :-s

yes, because one is accused and the other was sent on a month long vacation for his violation...-the black sense of reason

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:39 pm
by comic boy
owenshooter wrote:
pascalleke wrote:Comparing Apples to Melons :-s

yes, because one is accused and the other was sent on a month long vacation for his violation...-the black sense of reason


Excellent , the morons arguing against us gotta mean we have a strong case , must buy some silver polish for the cup :D

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:08 am
by pascalleke
comic boy wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
pascalleke wrote:Comparing Apples to Melons :-s

yes, because one is accused and the other was sent on a month long vacation for his violation...-the black sense of reason


Excellent , the morons arguing against us gotta mean we have a strong case , must buy some silver polish for the cup :D

yeah , looks like they touched something here .... -the white cup polisher

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:46 am
by zips5000
I don't know about you guys, but I could stare at pascal's avatar all day long.....

What is she saying?

Re: if the josko bust goes down

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:45 am
by greenoaks
pascalleke wrote:
benga wrote:
khazalid wrote:assuming they are subject to the same player-limitation violations that TOFU suffered, the cup would default to THOTA, no? where's chuuuck when you need him...


LOL and why THOTA when Blitz is a sitter abuser?

Comparing Apples to Melons :-s

my wife has apples, i always compare them to melons