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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby chapcrap on Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:41 pm

Leehar wrote:American Sports League
International Clan League

hmm, I wonder whats missing

What would you have the name be? Clans are International.

And it is not just USA that has leagues set up in this format. Baseball leagues all over the world are setup up like this. As are the majority of basketball leagues. It's not set up like European soccer. No apologies.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby xman5151 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:36 pm

The Grim Reapers are interested, looks like a fun event, I like a league that follows an American sports league like this with playoffs.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:08 pm

From a CD standpoint.... Privs and Medals will be issued. There is even a possible MVP Medal up for grabs.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Finsfleet on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:17 am

chapcrap wrote:And it is not just USA that has leagues set up in this format. As are the majority of basketball leagues.

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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Chuuuuck on Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:40 pm

I actually like it. Nice work. I would enjoy playing it. But the truth to the matter is, I don't think you will have any of the very top sign up for it. Too many games already for the clans that make it deep into the Conqueror's Cup and the league's later rounds.

But, that could just mean more opportunity for other clans to step up and win.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby MNDuke on Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:46 am

Bruceswar wrote:From a CD standpoint.... Privs and Medals will be issued. There is even a possible MVP Medal up for grabs.


Fucking right. I've been waiting for a pm and here it was all along you sly bastard. Yes.

Chuuuuck wrote:I actually like it. Nice work. I would enjoy playing it. But the truth to the matter is, I don't think you will have any of the very top sign up for it. Too many games already for the clans that make it deep into the Conqueror's Cup and the league's later rounds.

But, that could just mean more opportunity for other clans to step up and win.


So if I understand correctly, you are saying "might as well sign us (TOFU) up now."

Cool got it.

BTW. Thank you for the kind words and I hope you enjoy playing it.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:48 am

MNDuke wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:From a CD standpoint.... Privs and Medals will be issued. There is even a possible MVP Medal up for grabs.


Fucking right. I've been waiting for a pm and here it was all along you sly bastard. Yes.



You must have missed my PM. :) GL! More details to follow later. BTW to get privs you will need hard commits, so line your ducks up soon if you know what I mean.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby MNDuke on Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:53 am

Bruceswar wrote:
MNDuke wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:From a CD standpoint.... Privs and Medals will be issued. There is even a possible MVP Medal up for grabs.


Fucking right. I've been waiting for a pm and here it was all along you sly bastard. Yes.



You must have missed my PM. :) GL! More details to follow later. BTW to get privs you will need hard commits, so line your ducks up soon if you know what I mean.


Very cool. Any chance you can forward the pm to me? Not sure how I didn't see it. Thanks.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:00 am

Basically it said what I said here. :)
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Chuuuuck on Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:19 pm

MNDuke wrote:
But, that could just mean more opportunity for other clans to step up and win.


So if I understand correctly, you are saying "might as well sign us (TOFU) up now."

Cool got it.

BTW. Thank you for the kind words and I hope you enjoy playing it.[/quote]

Nope, you understood that 100% wrong. ;)

Too busy as is. All I see us playing is the CCup, CLA, and TLO.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby MNDuke on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:54 pm

Chuuuuck wrote:
MNDuke wrote:
But, that could just mean more opportunity for other clans to step up and win.


So if I understand correctly, you are saying "might as well sign us (TOFU) up now."

Cool got it.

BTW. Thank you for the kind words and I hope you enjoy playing it.


Nope, you understood that 100% wrong. ;)

Too busy as is. All I see us playing is the CCup, CLA, and TLO.[/quote]

Just the usually suspects. Don't you ever get tired of round robin and tournament after tournament? Oh well. TOFU's loss.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby niMic on Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:38 am

The problem is, there's already enough stuff going on. The top clans tend to get further in the already existing tournaments and leagues, so there's a lot more games to play. Nothing you can do about that, I'm afraid.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby MNDuke on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:15 pm

niMic wrote:The problem is, there's already enough stuff going on. The top clans tend to get further in the already existing tournaments and leagues, so there's a lot more games to play. Nothing you can do about that, I'm afraid.


I'm aware of this, however, that was the point of coming up with something new and different from the same mundane crap. Change doesn't happen over night and takes time for people to accept it. People have to be willing to try something new and stand up for it instead of following the herd and I'm hoping there's enough clans out there that are willing to give this a shot and make it a success.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby IcePack on Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:24 am

I'm back! Duke saw ur messages and will be replying tomorrow. More to follow :)
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Chuuuuck on Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:16 am

I think some clans will give it a chance and make it a success. But I think it will be the middle tier to lower clans that do. The top clans already have their priority list of things they deem the most prestigious and they will focus efforts there.

Other clans, who get eliminated earlier, have a demand for more things to do once they are eliminated (and top clans are still playing). They will be the clans that will make things like this a success.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Rodion on Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:22 am

How does the "1 clan rule" work? Assuming my clan does not want to participate, could I represent another clan in the ICL (while still representing KORT for CL4)?
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby betiko on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:00 pm

when you say to represent professional sports league you mean us sports leagues..
because for me the way US professional sports leagues work makes no sense and is completely unfair, as I don't think the best wins with that system.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby WPBRJ on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:04 pm

Rodion wrote:How does the "1 clan rule" work? Assuming my clan does not want to participate, could I represent another clan in the ICL (while still representing KORT for CL4)?


lol ya thats it

(my clan doesn't want too but i want to do, i think you should just come on over to my clan rodion we play everything no matter what were already in and always have a war going on!!! even when we do break the top 10 witch we will some day we still will play everything!!!)
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby josko.ri on Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:26 pm

MNDuke wrote:Unlimited reinforcements are allowed on conquest maps only.

While I generally like idea of this event, after seeing this rule which not allow to play my favourite settings, I am sure I wont participate in this league.
If your argument is that unlimited forts on "normal" maps give huge advantage to first playing team, that is even worse for home tem to choose that settings because they give gift to away team to possibly have huge advantage if they start first, so I do not see how it can be bad at all for away team if home team choose to take that risk.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby chapcrap on Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:29 pm

betiko wrote:when you say to represent professional sports league you mean us sports leagues..
because for me the way US professional sports leagues work makes no sense and is completely unfair, as I don't think the best wins with that system.

The settings are not only used in USA. These are the settings that will be used. If you don't like it, that's tough.
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MNDuke wrote:Unlimited reinforcements are allowed on conquest maps only.

While I generally like idea of this event, after seeing this rule which not allow to play my favourite settings, I am sure I wont participate in this league.
If your argument is that unlimited forts on "normal" maps give huge advantage to first playing team, that is even worse for home tem to choose that settings because they give gift to away team to possibly have huge advantage if they start first, so I do not see how it can be bad at all for away team if home team choose to take that risk.

Perhaps that could be negotiated, what settings are you looking to use josko?
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:28 pm

A map like World 2.1 or Hive can use unlimited forts with ease and the better team normally wins. Just as an example.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby josko.ri on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:53 am

Yeah, I d like to be allowed to use unlimited forts on every map, not only conquest ones. I do not see a reason why home team should not use this, if they want to and enjoy in playing that type of games.
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby WPBRJ on Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:32 am

if unlimited forts are allowed in anything other than conquest maps i wont play nor will my clan
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby josko.ri on Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:23 am

WPBRJ wrote:if unlimited forts are allowed in anything other than conquest maps i wont play nor will my clan

Nice WPBRJ, it was not enough to make personal vendetta towards me by limiting settings which I like in CL4, but your continuing personal campaing against me in other competitions was really unexpected.

I know it is hard for you to accept that you were not able to make good CL4 format, so my format suggestion had got much more votes in CLA than yours. Sorry, but not everyone is able to make quality project ;)

I think everyone who organize something big should clear any personal hatings towads some players and be unbiased, and try to make project with rules which majority of clan world likes, not put some personal preferences and frustrations into format. Look for example CL4, there will be more than 10 games forfeited or declared draw, just because WPBRJ put his own rules which clan world does not support. do we really need competitions with so lot games forfeited just because someone put his own hatings and personal vendettas into declaring rules?

I think you all organizers of big clan events should look at Chuuuuck how he is proffesional in his organizing of CC1,2,3. He asks, consider many opinions, and then make decision which majority of players liked in their comments. sometimes it is needed several pages of discussion for declaring the best solution (like cup tied rule for example) but finally we have something which majority clans like. it is not without reason that CCup is much more respected, liked, and valued than any other clan competition.

I am more classy than WPBRJ so I will not blackmail whole clan world with saying "if you do not accept it my clan and me is out" without any reason, because, if he does not like that settings, he does not have to use it in his home set, but why others, who like the settings, should not be allowed to use it as their own home set?
I will only say that I will for sure not play if my favourite settings will not be here, I will rather choose some tournament where I will have fun by playing which settings I like in my home set, than playing something where I am not allowed to play what I like.
That of course does not mean that my clan will not play. I am not dictator like some other persons that I order my clan members to follow my personal opinion. :roll:
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Re: The International Clan League (ICL)

Postby Dako on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:42 am

Unlimited forts is a perfectly normal setting. A problem is that most of the clans don't know how to play it correct.
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