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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby hotfire on Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:17 am

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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:46 am

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malevolous wrote:
Gen.LeeGettinhed wrote:I'm new to the clan world. I just joined KoRT and I don't think they have this (haven't told me about it), but I understand some Clans have intra-clan games. My point is it'd seem like it could be set up as a "intra-clan tax, paying tribute" to the stronger players -- if not handled fairly.

Please give your clan(s) and their policy on inta-clan games: forced, balance, etc.

Just fishing. . .looking for info, not flaming/baiting/trolling.

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I'd be very surprised if KoRT has no intra-clan games; its one of the best ways to learn a map. Ask them.




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have you ever played against a KoRT team? Holy hell, if they played against one another the game would never end...I'm positive if they could make it a 7 day timer instead of 24 hr. they would.


Slow and steady wins the race. We are not as slow as some. I know ID plays in clan games and TNC, but not sure who else does.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby ljex on Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:51 am

Bruceswar wrote:
L M S wrote:
malevolous wrote:
Gen.LeeGettinhed wrote:I'm new to the clan world. I just joined KoRT and I don't think they have this (haven't told me about it), but I understand some Clans have intra-clan games. My point is it'd seem like it could be set up as a "intra-clan tax, paying tribute" to the stronger players -- if not handled fairly.

Please give your clan(s) and their policy on inta-clan games: forced, balance, etc.

Just fishing. . .looking for info, not flaming/baiting/trolling.

GLG

I'd be very surprised if KoRT has no intra-clan games; its one of the best ways to learn a map. Ask them.




lol at this. alot.
have you ever played against a KoRT team? Holy hell, if they played against one another the game would never end...I'm positive if they could make it a 7 day timer instead of 24 hr. they would.


Slow and steady wins the race. We are not as slow as some. I know ID plays in clan games and TNC, but not sure who else does.


just about every clan other than KORT does to some degree.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby Bones2484 on Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:38 am

Bruceswar wrote:Slow and steady wins the race. We are not as slow as some. I know ID plays in clan games and TNC, but not sure who else does.


Bruceswar wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Most people of the highest ranks (sometime referred to as "legal farmers") refuse to play individuals who already have decent ranks and skills as they're too afraid to lose their points.



Actually I have always thought if you taught someone a map it is a good idea not to play them in it. Not because you can, but because it is a sign of respect. Such as not playing your clan mates.


So, am I to read these and other comments from you to imply that clans should not be playing in clan games? I'm very curious what the Clan Director's official response is.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby chapcrap on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:45 pm

I'm pretty sure his official response will be: Who gives a crap who you play? Play whoever you want to play.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:52 am

chapcrap wrote:I'm pretty sure his official response will be: Who gives a crap who you play? Play whoever you want to play.


Which would be contrary to his statements in the two threads. And I want to know his official stance before I make assumptions on what he's trying to say.

I still think there's something more to these comments that isn't coming out, but all I have to go from right now is Bruce saying that playing games against clan mates is wrong.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:24 am

My clan (The New Crusade) has a few intra clan games.

1) King of the Crusaders Tourny: Held quarterly. Winner is the "king" - King doesnt get anything special, just bragging rights and to make outrageous demands that normally are ignored.
2) Mini-Clan War: This is my favorite. We take our current lowest x players. Then we have a draft. Then we have a war.
3) Jousting tourny - Sort of like the King tourny, only excludes the king
4) Rebellion tourny - Normally when we get a new king, we have a rebellion. The rebels play the king (and sometimes past kings) in a best of series.

If you are worried about "paying tribute" you may be in the wrong clan. If the higher ups in my clan told me I had to play anyone as a tribute, I'd tell em to suck my dice.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby Epitaph1 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:00 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:My clan (The New Crusade) has a few intra clan games.

1) King of the Crusaders Tourny: Held quarterly. Winner is the "king" - King doesnt get anything special, just bragging rights and to make outrageous demands that normally are ignored.
2) Mini-Clan War: This is my favorite. We take our current lowest x players. Then we have a draft. Then we have a war.
3) Jousting tourny - Sort of like the King tourny, only excludes the king
4) Rebellion tourny - Normally when we get a new king, we have a rebellion. The rebels play the king (and sometimes past kings) in a best of series.

If you are worried about "paying tribute" you may be in the wrong clan. If the higher ups in my clan told me I had to play anyone as a tribute, I'd tell em to suck my dice.


We play as many intra-clan wars as we do inter-clan wars. :lol:
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby chapcrap on Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:32 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I'm pretty sure his official response will be: Who gives a crap who you play? Play whoever you want to play.


Which would be contrary to his statements in the two threads. And I want to know his official stance before I make assumptions on what he's trying to say.

I still think there's something more to these comments that isn't coming out, but all I have to go from right now is Bruce saying that playing games against clan mates is wrong.

That wouldn't contradict anything. He said that it's not for him. Not that it's not allowed. Read again.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:37 pm

chapcrap wrote:That wouldn't contradict anything. He said that it's not for him. Not that it's not allowed. Read again.


I never once said that Bruce believes it is not allowed. Only that he thinks it is wrong.

What you said Bruce's answer would be is clearly a contradiction to what he has hinted at so far. All we have to go on is a quote from Bruce implying that clanmates should not be playing games against each other whereas you think Bruce would say "who cares?". Do you not see the difference in those two arguments?

All I'm trying to get from Bruce is his stance on what should or shouldn't be happening for intra-clan games since he is the Clan Director. I'd rather not try to infer what he (and other KORT members) is saying and get a straight answer from him before responding. No harm in that.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby anonymus on Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:42 pm

L M S wrote:
malevolous wrote:
Gen.LeeGettinhed wrote:I'm new to the clan world. I just joined KoRT and I don't think they have this (haven't told me about it), but I understand some Clans have intra-clan games. My point is it'd seem like it could be set up as a "intra-clan tax, paying tribute" to the stronger players -- if not handled fairly.

Please give your clan(s) and their policy on inta-clan games: forced, balance, etc.

Just fishing. . .looking for info, not flaming/baiting/trolling.

GLG

I'd be very surprised if KoRT has no intra-clan games; its one of the best ways to learn a map. Ask them.




lol at this. alot.
have you ever played against a KoRT team? Holy hell, if they played against one another the game would never end...I'm positive if they could make it a 7 day timer instead of 24 hr. they would.


and poor josko would short-circuit playing all 8 players.. :mrgreen:

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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby chapcrap on Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:59 pm

Bones2484 wrote:All I'm trying to get from Bruce is his stance on what should or shouldn't be happening for intra-clan games since he is the Clan Director. I'd rather not try to infer what he (and other KORT members) is saying and get a straight answer from him before responding. No harm in that.

Fair enough.

I don't see how he can have a problem with it. It's not against any type of rule at all.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby jj3044 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:10 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:My clan (The New Crusade) has a few intra clan games.

1) King of the Crusaders Tourny: Held quarterly. Winner is the "king" - King doesnt get anything special, just bragging rights and to make outrageous demands that normally are ignored.
2) Mini-Clan War: This is my favorite. We take our current lowest x players. Then we have a draft. Then we have a war.
3) Jousting tourny - Sort of like the King tourny, only excludes the king
4) Rebellion tourny - Normally when we get a new king, we have a rebellion. The rebels play the king (and sometimes past kings) in a best of series.

If you are worried about "paying tribute" you may be in the wrong clan. If the higher ups in my clan told me I had to play anyone as a tribute, I'd tell em to suck my dice.

Brain, pretty cool ideas for intra clan tournies, might have to poach some of these. ;)

EMPIRE plays an intra clan dubs tourney occasionally (I think we have done it twice), regularly play each other in dubs/trips/quads on new maps or maps where we are deficient in order to improve strategy, occasionally meet in tournies where we have multiple teams entered, and play tryout games with potential new members with several Empire members on each team with the recruits.
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby betiko on Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:37 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:My clan (The New Crusade) has a few intra clan games.

1) King of the Crusaders Tourny: Held quarterly. Winner is the "king" - King doesnt get anything special, just bragging rights and to make outrageous demands that normally are ignored.
2) Mini-Clan War: This is my favorite. We take our current lowest x players. Then we have a draft. Then we have a war.
3) Jousting tourny - Sort of like the King tourny, only excludes the king
4) Rebellion tourny - Normally when we get a new king, we have a rebellion. The rebels play the king (and sometimes past kings) in a best of series.

If you are worried about "paying tribute" you may be in the wrong clan. If the higher ups in my clan told me I had to play anyone as a tribute, I'd tell em to suck my dice.

who's your king now bg? ;-)
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Re: Intra-clan "taxes" -tell me about it. . .

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:45 pm

betiko wrote:
BGtheBrain wrote:My clan (The New Crusade) has a few intra clan games.

1) King of the Crusaders Tourny: Held quarterly. Winner is the "king" - King doesnt get anything special, just bragging rights and to make outrageous demands that normally are ignored.
2) Mini-Clan War: This is my favorite. We take our current lowest x players. Then we have a draft. Then we have a war.
3) Jousting tourny - Sort of like the King tourny, only excludes the king
4) Rebellion tourny - Normally when we get a new king, we have a rebellion. The rebels play the king (and sometimes past kings) in a best of series.

If you are worried about "paying tribute" you may be in the wrong clan. If the higher ups in my clan told me I had to play anyone as a tribute, I'd tell em to suck my dice.

who's your king now bg? ;-)

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