Conquer Club

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 am**

Thank you, I'm nearly done Divisions just waiting on some more feedback from others before its posted.
Tomorrow I'll update some of the rosters that have been PM'd / posted in the meantime, and Wednesday the Conferences & Divisions should be posted for everyone to review and I'll be working on schedules.

Schedules will hopefully be posted on the 10th, same day all the rosters are due. That gives everyone some time to review schedules and start planning well in advance to our start. I suggest "busy" clans send in as many home games as they feel comfortable sending ahead of time to create less work for themselves as the season moves on.

IcePack

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 2:22 am**

Emmdizzle wrote:Hey IcePack & MNDuke

Info as follows ..

Captain: Emmdizzle
Co: Ponygal

1. Paddy The Cat
2. Das killa
3. Meanest Boss Ever
4. Eldritch
5. Red42
6. MSex
7. King Tet
8. Gannable
9. Ironwood
10. MC05025

Cheers guys, We look forward to the challenges ICL brings to the table - thanks, Mark

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 8:59 am**

IcePack wrote:Thank you, I'm nearly done Divisions just waiting on some more feedback from others before its posted.
Tomorrow I'll update some of the rosters that have been PM'd / posted in the meantime, and Wednesday the Conferences & Divisions should be posted for everyone to review and I'll be working on schedules.

Schedules will hopefully be posted on the 10th, same day all the rosters are due. That gives everyone some time to review schedules and start planning well in advance to our start. I suggest "busy" clans send in as many home games as they feel comfortable sending ahead of time to create less work for themselves as the season moves on.

IcePack

IcePack wrote:The conferences and divisions will be divided up based upon current rankings and a general consensus from ICL Leaders (and input from the public)

Is there still going to be an "input from the public" review stage of the divisions? While I imagine your methodology for dividing teams up will be sound and I'm not really worried about it too much, it's unknown to me... other than it's somehow based on current rankings (presumable F400). I envision something like a reverse snake order between Conferences with a secondary reverse snake order between divisions to make everything fairly even from both conference & division perspectives:

Premier Conference:
Heroes Division:

1
12
13
24
25

Champions Division:

4
9
16
21
28

Pioneers Division:

5
8
17
20
29

Elite Conference:
Legends Division:

2
11
14
23
26

Kings Division:

3
10
15
22
27

Titans Division:

6
7
18
19
30

Then perhaps with a final review & minor shifting of clans if anything looks too weird???
However it's done, I'm looking forward to the season. It all looks fantastic.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 9:07 am**

MudPuppy,
I finished it last night. Essentially yes I followed a rough format of what you suggested. I'll go into more detail when I post it later today (a few hours from now).
There will be a review period, so far everyone who's reviewed all have been positive, so I'm not sure how much tweaking will be needed. However major concerns that perhaps I didn't see will be definitely taken into account

IcePack

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 9:14 am**

IcePack wrote:(a few hours from now)

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 10:00 am**

Sorry for the delay, we completly forgot to update the post with our roster!

Here we go:

RA - Risk Attackers
Captain: VioIet
Co-Captain: Janomike

List of players:

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 11:11 am**

And now the moment we've all been waiting for, announcments for the inaugural ICL Conferences and Divisions make up!

First let me announce that as we have 32 clans signed up - we will have 2 Conferences and eight divisions! (4 teams each division) The Premier Conference will see the addition of the Immortals Division; and the Elite Conference will expand with the Explorers Division!

Next: The process - each clan had its ranking from F400 taken into consideration. Some clans didn't have a ranking - and therefore estimates were used. There was minor edits just to balance / eliminate ties on my part but largely remained intact.

I then worked my way from the bottom up: filling the bottom out to each division and working my way to the top 9-16. Then I assigned clans #1-8 a random number, and had a non-CC player randomly assign top division clans (to remove possibilty of bias).

I then calculated avg expected "weight" of each conference and division and then totaled each conf and division as they were. Then to create minor balance adjustments to overall weights I moved 4 of the lower clans around, which created a reasonably even weight within each conference and division.

Overall I believe the process was fair, unbiased and turned out splendidly. I think and hope it remains competitive not only this year, but builds rivalries for wars to come.

Without further ado, I present the Inaugural International Clan League of 2012!

Overall here are the point breakdowns:
Avg Conf Expected: 345 Points
Avg Div Expected: 86.25 Points

Premier Conference: 347
Hero 86; Champion 88; Pioneers 87; Immortals 86
Elite Conference: 343
Legends 81; Kings 86; Explorers 87; Titans 89

Premier Conference:
Hero: DYN / WAR / TNC / RA
Champion: AFOS / MYTH / MM / RET
Pioneers: EMP / LOW / IGNI / LOTZ
Immortals: FOED / LEG / KOA / MB

Elite Conference:
Legends: TOFU / MD / AKA / TDB
Kings: PIG / TFFS / OSA / RH
Explorers: ID / LHDD / HH / Ultim8's
Titans: AOC / GR / 1RFG / SOH

IcePack

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 11:44 am**

Great work Ice..this is truly going to be great!! So looking forwrd to this since Duke announced it!

GL everyone.

86

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 12:19 pm**

Small Update: 32 clan format and playoff system posted on first page. Updated first page to include these conference and division placements.

Rosters are due by May 10. Roster updates and final PM warnings to clans will be issued tomorrow. Schedule released May 10th approx.

IcePack

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 12:25 pm**

I'd like to see the seeds by team but overall it looks fine.

The Elite Conference seems to have gotten the larger share of top clans with the 3,7,9,11 F400 ranked clans (7.5 avg.) while Premier has the 5,8,10,13 F400 ranked clans (9.0 avg.). I would have liked to have seen those more evenly distributed between conferences but it's not a big deal.

Thanks for the hard work, guys. Looking forward to the season!!!

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 12:39 pm**

Thanks so much for hosting this, guys. Good luck, everyone!

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 12:46 pm**

MudPuppy wrote:I'd like to see the seeds by team but overall it looks fine.

The Elite Conference seems to have gotten the larger share of top clans with the 3,7,9,11 F400 ranked clans (7.5 avg.) while Premier has the 5,8,10,13 F400 ranked clans (9.0 avg.). I would have liked to have seen those more evenly distributed between conferences but it's not a big deal.

Thanks for the hard work, guys. Looking forward to the season!!!

With the random drawing / placement of the top 8 to ensure unbiased, minor diff are expected. Also, the F400 is based on current standing while ICL is built with sports league mentality of "these teams will fluctuate year to year".

The diff in top 1-5 and 6-10 are very minor overall, and with random placement it's about as fair as could be. And when you look at the expected weights conference wide, they are very close and as you said, the Elite Conference has just a slightly higher difficulty level overall than premier, but not a statistically relevant amount. Expected weight avg was 345 and elite was 343 and premier was 347. Both 2 pts +/- from expected.

I think year to year this group will fluctuate well, while if I tweak to much for the "right now" ranking, it may affect to heavy one side or the other in the future.

Anyway, I'm glad the feedback do far is largely positive both in forum and privately. I don't expect to many hiccups.

IcePack

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 1:12 pm**

This is looking very good

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 3:46 pm**

Do we get to keep our conference and division in next season?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 3:52 pm**

Who's RH and when did they get in?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 4:03 pm**

benga - the ultimate goal is to build permanent places into the ICL for future years.
This will be adjusted as little as possible, but can be changed due to number of sign ups, etc.
If we expand or contract year to year it may mean a change in number of divisions or teams per division. We will address this next year, but this is the answer that is the "goal".

Leehar - Random Heroes, they signed up via PM. I'd have to look into time / date.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2012 8:00 pm**

Roster Updates Completed Early.

FYI PM's went out on May 4th to all clans that hadn't submitted rosters yet.

We are still waiting on rosters from the following:

Posted: **Wed May 09, 2012 12:22 am**

Thanks, IcePack. Nice job.

Posted: **Wed May 09, 2012 12:49 pm**

Thank you. Clan info are slowly rolling in. While we waiting we are finalizing schedules.

Thanks for your patience and helping us get the ICL started successfully

IcePack

Posted: **Wed May 09, 2012 5:23 pm**

The New Crusade

Captain: dazza2008
Co-Captain: Ragian

1. dazza2008
2. Ragian
3. tokle
4. BlackKnight_6
5. TheCrown
6. ejph
7. thunderhue
8. dana1971
9. Ckyrias
10. EminenceGrise

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2012 11:49 am**

hey so i noticed that for each conference you have 5 teams going into the playoffs....usually with 16 teams in a conference, 6 go, but anyway, how will the playoffs work with 5? The worst division leader will play the wildcard in a round where everyone else has byes?

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2012 12:30 pm**

War

Captain - HMSPS
VC - SaviorShot

Roster

Stevenshome
Gradybridges
Tobikera
Atax
Kingm
HerrZ
Sekretar
Shaun850

If you need any more information, just let me know

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2012 1:30 pm**

deantursx wrote:hey so i noticed that for each conference you have 5 teams going into the playoffs....usually with 16 teams in a conference, 6 go, but anyway, how will the playoffs work with 5? The worst division leader will play the wildcard in a round where everyone else has byes?

Yes, play in for each conf will get into final 8.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2012 2:11 pm**

Can I just check one thing.

Am I reading it right that it is "maps can be used once per set". With a set being 3 games. So maps can be repeated through the season many times.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2012 5:22 pm**

One last clan to give me their starting rosters. It seems there will likely be a small delay in the schedule (technical difficulties made me do it twice). So, I'm expecting sometime this weekend. In the meantime, I have requested privladges for our game team and will answer any more questions + get a little more organized.

Thanks for your patience, as a special treat chapcrap will now sing a love song to you all while you wait. I'm sure he would love to have some song requests posted on his wall

Cheers,
IcePack

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