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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Great-Ollie on Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:30 pm

Keefie wrote:Well said Nicky15 =D> =D>

I'd just like to add that myself and all of the members of the Headless Horsemen are fully behind the CL4 organising team and really apppreciate their efforts.

Well done guys =D> =D> =D>


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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby chemefreak on Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:59 pm

Great-Ollie wrote:
Keefie wrote:Well said Nicky15 =D> =D>

I'd just like to add that myself and all of the members of the Headless Horsemen are fully behind the CL4 organising team and really apppreciate their efforts.

Well done guys =D> =D> =D>


+1 =D> =D>


+2 =D> =D>
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby pearljamrox2 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:44 am

Nicky15 wrote:
This has been investigated and a member of AKA was indeed sent a pm. For one reason or another this pm was not shared with the other members of AKA.



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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby eddie2 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:56 am

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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby pearljamrox2 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:00 am

good, I'm glad it all worked out. I was only expressing my happiness that there was no injustice.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Leehar on Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:05 pm

I dislike the whole time is paramount objectives the League ended up being about. I admit that it's not nice delaying things unnecessarily, but CC is mostly a 24 hour game for a reason. I think it's ended up being a few times that Decisions etc were rushed due to 'time pressures' but I think it's sometimes worth taking a step back so that we can make better decisions, while also being a bit more laid-back with regards to it on a site where we realy should be coming to relax instead of creating needless stress?
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby chapcrap on Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:13 pm

I'm mad that I can't play for another clan. I switched clans in the middle and now I can't compete at all because I'm not allowed to play for my new clan or my old clan. That's pretty stupid.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby IR1SH ACE on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:10 am

chapcrap wrote:I'm mad that I can't play for another clan. I switched clans in the middle and now I can't compete at all because I'm not allowed to play for my new clan or my old clan. That's pretty stupid.


why switch clans?....I cant keep up sometimes with the amount of Clan switching that goes on around here...maybe I will start a GD thread about it...

chemefreak wrote:
Great-Ollie wrote:
Keefie wrote:Well said Nicky15 =D> =D>

I'd just like to add that myself and all of the members of the Headless Horsemen are fully behind the CL4 organising team and really apppreciate their efforts.

Well done guys =D> =D> =D>


+1 =D> =D>


+2 =D> =D>


yup have to agree....+3, great job guys... =D> =D>
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby chemefreak on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:20 pm

chapcrap wrote:I'm mad that I can't play for another clan. I switched clans in the middle and now I can't compete at all because I'm not allowed to play for my new clan or my old clan. That's pretty stupid.


I find it pretty amusing that a TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR is complaining about a rule in a TOURNAMENT! I like the rule. Cup Tied. Good stuff.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Leehar on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:24 am

not to argue over semantics, but it does say League in quite a few places...
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby chemefreak on Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:55 pm

Leehar wrote:not to argue over semantics, but it does say League in quite a few places...


Nice. We issues privs for two things: Qualifying Wars and Approved Tournaments. It is like someone calling their clan war a "battle royale"...it is still a war on our books. In fact, to make things even more confusing, the Conqueror's Cup actually falls under the Tournament guidelines. Weird, huh?
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby chapcrap on Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:41 am

chemefreak wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I'm mad that I can't play for another clan. I switched clans in the middle and now I can't compete at all because I'm not allowed to play for my new clan or my old clan. That's pretty stupid.


I find it pretty amusing that a TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR is complaining about a rule in a TOURNAMENT! I like the rule. Cup Tied. Good stuff.

Except it's not a cup. I'm not sure how it's amusing at all. This isn't my forum. Just because it's in a tournament type format doesn't mean that I had any say at all. And it definitely doesn't mean it's not a stupid rule. I should be able to play for one clan at least.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby chemefreak on Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:44 pm

chapcrap wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I'm mad that I can't play for another clan. I switched clans in the middle and now I can't compete at all because I'm not allowed to play for my new clan or my old clan. That's pretty stupid.


I find it pretty amusing that a TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR is complaining about a rule in a TOURNAMENT! I like the rule. Cup Tied. Good stuff.

Except it's not a cup. I'm not sure how it's amusing at all. This isn't my forum. Just because it's in a tournament type format doesn't mean that I had any say at all. And it definitely doesn't mean it's not a stupid rule. I should be able to play for one clan at least.


Yikes! I thought you were sorta joking...
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby chapcrap on Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:51 pm

chemefreak wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I'm mad that I can't play for another clan. I switched clans in the middle and now I can't compete at all because I'm not allowed to play for my new clan or my old clan. That's pretty stupid.


I find it pretty amusing that a TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR is complaining about a rule in a TOURNAMENT! I like the rule. Cup Tied. Good stuff.

Except it's not a cup. I'm not sure how it's amusing at all. This isn't my forum. Just because it's in a tournament type format doesn't mean that I had any say at all. And it definitely doesn't mean it's not a stupid rule. I should be able to play for one clan at least.


Yikes! I thought you were sorta joking...

Well... I was sorta joking.

But also sorta serious! I feel like I should be able to play for someone at least. I mean, both of the clans are still in the competition, so it's not like being cup tied in CC3.
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Re: Clan League Complaint Box

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:30 am

Can this forum be as much about suggestions for CL5 as it is for complaints about CL4? I see this as being far more productive to resolving issues as, let's face it, whatever has happened in CL4 is already a fait accompli. The rules were set and every clan has had to comply with them - same for everyone (though some have seemingly coped better than others, but that's an admin thing by the look of it). If there have been problems with a particular TO then I'm sure this will be taken into consideration when the next series comes along, but for the meantime can we all just apply ourselves to seeing this through and upholding our obligations, both as TOs and as 1st Contacts. It would be great.

Now here's something that I think warrants closer scrutiny. It is the system adopted by UEFA for the European Championships 2012 in which there were 51 countries divided into nine qualifying groups. Not too dissimilar to the conundrum organisers of CL4 were faced with when deciding how best to 'qualify' the top clans from each division. Have a read:

"There were nine groups. Six of these groups had six teams; the remaining three groups consisted of five teams. Group competition was a double round robin: each team hosted a game with every other team in its group. The first-placed team in each group qualified, along with the second-place team with the most points against teams ranked in the top five in the group. The remaining eight second-place teams are paired for two-game play-offs, with the winner of each tie qualifying for the finals"

So what UEFA have done is take each 2nd-placed team in a group and calculate the points they earned against the four other teams in the Top 5. This is a clever system as it has no bearing on the 1st-placed team (i.e. if 1st place beat last place those points still stand, which is fair enough as everyone in each group had the same opportunity) but it does create a level playing field for the 2nd-placed teams who were in a group of only five countries. Their 4 results against opponents are comparable to the 4 results of a 2nd-placed team in a group of six. This is far better than the 'share a draw' system applied in CL4.

Only other thing I'll add (for now) is the restriction on Unlimited Forts. Personally I don't like them, but to have a quota placed on the number of games that can use them seemed unnecessary and possibly a deliberate handicap to KORT. This seems unfair. If they happen to be bloody good at those settings why penalise them? It's the first time I've ever known of unlimited forts being restricted and it seems unreasonable to me. It is a very standard game setting across all spheres of CC gameplay (tournies, challenges, etc).

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