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eddie2 wrote:did you hold a vote in cdf asking if all clans were ok with you dictating that clans who did not want in cdf must join to take part in these clan events now. me personally i dont see why they should have to if they read the sign up thread and are happy to take part then that should be enough. they should not be forced to join a group they do not want to and get involved in convos they do not want to just to make the figures of the group look good.
Doc_Brown wrote:Now that this is an official Conquer Club event, and given that it was yanked out of Dako's hands with nary a personal message to him of either explanation or thanks for past efforts, I propose that this event be renamed. There is already an official Conquer Cup, and it's just going to be confusing to have the Conquer Cup and the Conqueror's Cup. I suggest this be renamed as the 1st Conquer Club Clan Cup.
Doc_Brown wrote:Now that this is an official Conquer Club event, and given that it was yanked out of Dako's hands with nary a personal message to him of either explanation or thanks for past efforts, I propose that this event be renamed. There is already an official Conquer Cup, and it's just going to be confusing to have the Conquer Cup and the Conqueror's Cup. I suggest this be renamed as the 1st Conquer Club Clan Cup.
IcePack wrote:1CCCC is just annoying lol
Nicky15 wrote:That was always the plan for the final thread, but the name will remain, it is the 4th edition of the Conqueror's Cup, but there is no reason why we can't put the official bit in now.
Nicky15 wrote:eddie2 wrote:did you hold a vote in cdf asking if all clans were ok with you dictating that clans who did not want in cdf must join to take part in these clan events now. me personally i dont see why they should have to if they read the sign up thread and are happy to take part then that should be enough. they should not be forced to join a group they do not want to and get involved in convos they do not want to just to make the figures of the group look good.
No. Our aim is to try and create a clan world where all clans get a say, and the CDs are not charged with making all the decisions. As much as possible we want clans to be able to decide, and they can't if they are not represented in the CDF. No one is forced to get involved in discussions, and if a clan does not have an opinion on a topic they can abstain their vote. While some may not have an opinion on the way CC4 is organised there may well be an issue that arises mid cup that they will want a say in. Also being a member of CDF means they are a clan with standing enough to make them less likely to pull out mid comp and disrupt the competition. This may well be an non issue as no one apart from yourself has refused to be a member of CDF. AKAs rep is doing his part in the votes we have.
eddie2 wrote:Nicky15 wrote:eddie2 wrote:did you hold a vote in cdf asking if all clans were ok with you dictating that clans who did not want in cdf must join to take part in these clan events now. me personally i dont see why they should have to if they read the sign up thread and are happy to take part then that should be enough. they should not be forced to join a group they do not want to and get involved in convos they do not want to just to make the figures of the group look good.
No. Our aim is to try and create a clan world where all clans get a say, and the CDs are not charged with making all the decisions. As much as possible we want clans to be able to decide, and they can't if they are not represented in the CDF. No one is forced to get involved in discussions, and if a clan does not have an opinion on a topic they can abstain their vote. While some may not have an opinion on the way CC4 is organised there may well be an issue that arises mid cup that they will want a say in. Also being a member of CDF means they are a clan with standing enough to make them less likely to pull out mid comp and disrupt the competition. This may well be an non issue as no one apart from yourself has refused to be a member of CDF. AKAs rep is doing his part in the votes we have.
wow what a load of bullshit nicky i did not refuse to be a member i was actually a member for about 3 weeks then felt it was 2 much like the cla so left and what was the reason for that... ow yes it was the fact that qwert opened up the sign up thread while rules were still being talked about and voted on... and what did you clan mods say to me...
He is the organizer of the event so we can guide him and ultimately he can do what he wants....
when i left i put razorvich in my place (which was me who done that) so is that me refusing aka to be members....
now aka are a member of cdf and me as a leader has asked if it has been voted on that you are demanding clans to join a group to take part in a clan event when if there are any clans not members by now and not wanting any part of voting and just want to play the game. (and if a issue comes up they feel about they might join up later out of there own choice.)... and if not why not since you say you are giving the clan world back to the clans to voice there opinion...
2 me after what i have seen over the last couple of days is that clan mods have turned into the new hitler of cc.
jetsetwilly wrote:And more to the point, this thread is purely to discuss the cup format. Please keep unrelated posts off the thread.
Eddie you are arguing an issue that currently does not exist if there is a clan out there that truly doesn't want to be involved in democracy then we will face that issue if it ever arises. We can't have clans jumping in and out on each issue. There have been things we have discussed in the CDF before they reach the public eye. How will a clan know whats being discussed and if they have an opinion on it if they are not there to see it.
Nicky15 wrote:In this apparent dictatorship, the one thing in the entire format we insisted on were that clans were a member of a democratic group, that got to vote on issues that involved them. Us being a dictatorship kind of contradicts our want for democracy.
Now as i said before we will address this issue if it ever arises. There is currently one clan that has opted out of CDF that is true, and there are two very new clans that haven't quite yet met the requirements to be a member. If any of these three clans want to play, then we will of course consider it. More than likely we would ask for the opinion of the members of CDF.
jetsetwilly wrote:Right getting back on track, do people want a vote on a limited trench inclusion?
jetsetwilly wrote:Right getting back on track, do people want a vote on a limited trench inclusion?
friendly1 wrote:jetsetwilly wrote:Right getting back on track, do people want a vote on a limited trench inclusion?
It all needs to be voted on. And yes that will make it a longer and more difficult process, but it should make future events easier, and likely help the clan league out as well when it gets annexed as an official Conquer Club event.
Ive been wondering why polls have not been showing up in the CDF yet?
IcePack wrote:So I don't mind it being listed as "must be a member of CDF".
But beneath it, can you pretty please tell us what those requirements actually are?
Thanks!
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