chemefreak wrote:This our official position. They did not abandon a clan war. This rule was set up for players and clans that simply disappear. (Yes, I wrote this rule.) They approached the CDs that were not in those clans and asked how they should proceed. We felt that since they were starting a new clan they should drop out of CL5 completely and join CCup4 as their new clan. If they had merged into one of the existing clans, they would have been tied to their original clan for the phase and allowed to continue with the other clan. That is not what happened. They wanted a new clan. So it seemed unfair to allow their new clan to advance in CL5 since it did not compete in the first phase. So that is how we came to this decision.
Now, if you really want to get technical with the rule, we could enforce it by saying that the clans Empire and AoC are forbidden from holding privileges for 3 months. See how pointless this would be? Their new clan, however, has done nothing wrong. So it can hold privileges. Now, I guess we could say that the actual privilege holders in CL5 for those two clans should not be allowed to hold privileges for any clan for 3 months. Would that make everyone feel better if we told hyposquasher and jj3044 that they can't hold privileges for 3 months?
ok a long hard thought about this before i responded...
and chemefreak please can you at least try and treat us clans with a bit of respect instead of a load of bull.. and yes i will use aka time as a example..
This rule was set up for players and clans that simply disappear. (Yes, I wrote this rule.)
wrong i left time because the person who started it said for me to do certain things then started to give out shit saying why do it. time did not disappear they turned into aka under a different new clan only player not to follow was joshyboy koe_sirius. but koe left site for a while and rejoined aka on his return. and i was issued the punishment for it.
They approached the CDs that were not in those clans and asked how they should proceed. We felt that since they were starting a new clan they should drop out of CL5 completely and join CCup4 as their new clan.
either you are telling the truth or the new clan is taking the piss. because they were removed then tried to sign up for newcomers cup. and have since said they only showed interest in that event if they did not get entry to ccup4
They wanted a new clan.
so should be treated as a new clan
So it seemed unfair to allow their new clan to advance in CL5 since it did not compete in the first phase. So that is how we came to this decision.
about the only correct thing you have done in this whole issue...
now the rule surrounding all of this was clans must complete
2 wars and been a serving clan for 3 months.
this was reduced and i for one 1 hundred percent agree with that to.
1 month and 1 clan war...
but on the joining of empire aoc you just got rid of the rule altogether.
now if you went with cof's idea to postpone this event to the finals of ccup3 were over then this would give all clans that are active and not meeting the requirements time to complete 1 war and be active 1 month.
now cof i agree with your post 1 hundred percent..
1)this event should not start till ccup3 has finished
2) since there are seedings. should they not be reduced because if all clans join it could mean seeded clans playing in the play in rounds. or are they going to make non seeded clans play more than 1 round of play ins ????
3)i do not agree with this part.
So what I'm inferring is that some measure of guarantee from the heads of AoC & Empire needs to be made that their old clans will strictly be extinct (not dormant) and that their forums will only ever be for a social group of former members of a competitive clan.
the heads have moved to the new clan and won a majority vote within there clans (i presume) to do so...
it should be the players they left behind not willing to join a new clan who should have the say on if they want to continue and remove all the other players... did we not have something like this happen with
where 80 percent of ra moved to war clan leaving violet with not enough members to have a clan and she was given time to get the clan back up above 10 players.. and keep ra rankings in f400.
ok on another note i will post this somewhere else follow this link and comment on it..http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=438&t=189322